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Accretionist posted:Is there a white celebrity generally regarded as the most attractive? I'm very beautiful
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Nov 6, 2016 05:38
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My high school girl students have mentioned being into Leonardo DiCaprio and Benedict Cumberbatch.
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Nov 6, 2016 05:39
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Chinese people make good sushi
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Nov 6, 2016 05:39
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Grand Fromage posted:Benedict Cumberbatch. I don't understand this bizarre looking man's appeal to any demographic
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Nov 6, 2016 05:44
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BONGHITZ posted:Chinese people make good sushi Koreans make the best Japanese food. Not a fake post.
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Accretionist posted:Is there a white celebrity generally regarded as the most attractive? we like loving benedict cumberbatch sow e really cant talk
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Nov 6, 2016 05:55
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Accretionist posted:I don't understand this bizarre looking man's appeal to any demographic I thought he was good in that Alan Turing thing. And OK as Khan. And he has good line delivery. So, weird looking, but not explicitly ugly, well-spoken, capable, but still a social outsider? Sounds like a Tumblrista's wet dream.
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Nov 6, 2016 05:57
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Accretionist posted:I don't understand this bizarre looking man's appeal to any demographic they love Mr. Bean, too, because he has big eyes, so cute, do you know?
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Nov 6, 2016 06:09
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This was like 5 pages ago so sorry for bringing it back up, but isn't the whole native speaker hears someone speaking their language who isn't obviously also a native and doesn't understand them an established thing that happens? I remember reading about it but forget if it had a fancy name. Anecdotally I had a friend in college who was half Japanese and grew up in Japan until high school but looked pretty not Japanese and she said she constantly had people telling her "sorry I can't speak English" even though she was speaking 100% raised in Japan native Japanese. My Chinese ain't the best in the world but I've had whole phone conversations with delivery men and people who understood me fine on the phone then looked at me with blank stares when we talked irl. So either I have baller phone Chinese and poo poo in person Chinese or there is something going on there.
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Nov 6, 2016 06:14
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can somebody translate that video because lmao is it the same lines over and over again ?
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Nov 6, 2016 06:16
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simplefish posted:Speaking of cement, I was trying to buy some (in Cantonese) and after asking me two or three questions about what size of bag I wanted etc he just totally flipped and told me he didn't have any and to go away. There were bags of cement everywhere and he was wheeling them into the shop as I arrived. But he didn't have any. I swear, it's like they give injections to small business owners that turn them into a pack of greedy, venal bastards.
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Nov 6, 2016 06:32
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UltraRed posted:Koreans make the best Japanese food. Not a fake post. 
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Nov 6, 2016 06:44
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Pon de Bundy posted:and the penalty for weed possession is what? shot after a dumb trial? For a foreigner: I you test positive in a raid you may or may not be charged with anything, it depends on why the raid was run and how politically strict the city is. If you get caught holding less than 20g you'll do 10-days in jail and be given a week to leave the country. If you have more than 20g your hosed. For native it's much harsher.
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Nov 6, 2016 07:01
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ladron posted:really, how did chinese singing ever become a thing that was not meant strictly for punishment There's a tiny little park near me where a bunch of old guys go to play traditional instruments. I used to enjoy going there to chillout sometimes but now a bunch of old women show up with them and screech loving terrible Beijing opera poo poo that makes you want to stab yourself in the eardrum. Magna Kaser posted:This was like 5 pages ago so sorry for bringing it back up, but isn't the whole native speaker hears someone speaking their language who isn't obviously also a native and doesn't understand them an established thing that happens? I remember reading about it but forget if it had a fancy name. My Chinese is absolutely loving dire, yet everyone seems to understand me perfectly. People get visibly annoyed with me sometimes when I don't understand them as if I'm pretending not to speak Chinese to piss them off.
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Nov 6, 2016 07:09
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I speak absolutely terrible italian and spanish and usually get along just fine (yo quiero una comida con carne de pollo por favor). Working in a tourist city i also meet people weekly who are trying to ask a question in horrible english and can usually figure out what they want.
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Nov 6, 2016 07:33
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peak debt posted:I speak absolutely terrible italian and spanish and usually get along just fine (yo quiero una comida con carne de pollo por favor). Working in a tourist city i also meet people weekly who are trying to ask a question in horrible english and can usually figure out what they want. it seems that you don't understand the fundamental point that native spanish and italian speakers are not taught every day of their lives that there is no way a non native speaker can ever learn their language Jimmy Little Balls posted:There's a tiny little park near me where a bunch of old guys go to play traditional instruments. I used to enjoy going there to chillout sometimes but now a bunch of old women show up with them and screech loving terrible Beijing opera poo poo that makes you want to stab yourself in the eardrum. those old men are getting mad grey sideways snatch tho now, don't be jelly
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Nov 6, 2016 07:36
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Magna Kaser posted:This was like 5 pages ago so sorry for bringing it back up, but isn't the whole native speaker hears someone speaking their language who isn't obviously also a native and doesn't understand them an established thing that happens? I remember reading about it but forget if it had a fancy name. It is 100% an actual phenomenon that I have witnessed countless times. Seeing a fluent speaker who has all of the tones perfectly mastered (who is white or black) being met with blank stares, even after they say, "Hello, I am speaking Mandarin, can you hear me?" and being met with them saying they don't speak English (in Mandarin) is so surreal. Seeing the same Chinese person being exposed to the same foreigner, dozens of times over a month, and still not understanding her is absolutely maddening. Then again I've also had the opposite happen where I say "ni hao" and they proceed to tell me their life's story at 180mph.
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Nov 6, 2016 07:38
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boy it sure is great seeing the Dunning-Krueger effect in full swing across so many different backgrounds of so many different people!
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Nov 6, 2016 07:43
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The Great Autismo! posted:boy it sure is great seeing the Dunning-Krueger effect in full swing across so many different backgrounds of so many different people! dude, I don't want to argue with you, but it's not the D-K effect when I have a conversation with someone on the phone and then 5 minutes later the same person can't understand me face to face and just goes "No English!" over and over or has a conversation with me then taps the cash register display like I'm some type of linguistic savant but I somehow don't know numbers
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Nov 6, 2016 07:48
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ladron posted:dude, I don't want to argue with you, but it's not the D-K effect when I have a conversation with someone on the phone and then 5 minutes later the same person can't understand me face to face and just goes "No English!" over and over or has a conversation with me then taps the cash register display like I'm some type of linguistic savant but I somehow don't know numbers i was joking, lol
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Nov 6, 2016 07:51
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The Great Autismo! posted:i was joking, lol I also don't understand sarcasm
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The Great Autismo! posted:boy it sure is great seeing the Dunning-Krueger effect in full swing across so many different backgrounds of so many different people! If you are joe loving nobody from china you have even more of an excuse to not understand it because there aren't a lot of foreigners speaking your language. But with the accent differences amongst native english speakers who speak the same language, it just makes no drat sense to me. Khorne fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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Nov 6, 2016 08:11
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to be honest i don't believe it to be the dunning-kruger effect very much at all, i think when it comes to communication it depends how much the listener is trying. like when i'm in the countryside with my wife and her family, none of them have any problem understanding me even though my japanese is total and utter garbage, because they are really listening and trying to figure out what i'm saying. this is the same for me when anyone tries speaking english to me, after living abroad and spending the last like 8 years in europe and asia, i really try hard to understand when people are talking to me, because i know it's not their native language. it wouldn't surprise me if people working jobs that are like minimum wage jobs just shut down when they see a foreigner show up and don't even really think about putting in any effort at all to understanding the conversation or problem because they just assume they aren't going to understand what the person is saying based on the fact that they are a different race than the language they already speak. today i was leaving the pool that i swim at and there was this little kid crying hysterically, so i kinda waited a minute and he saw me and kept crying, so i kinda approached him and was like "are you ok?" and he said he couldn't find his dad, so i went over and sat on the bench next to his bench and talked with him for like 8 minutes until his dad showed up. the kid, who i learned was 6, had zero problem at all answering any of my questions or conversing with me, and i think that's because he really wanted to converse with someone, because he was a six year old, crying hysterically, all alone. which kinda pissed me off that so many people were just walking by and ignoring this bawling six year old. anyway his dad came eventually and was freakin' out and i talked to him for a minute and the dad was really nice and thanked me in english and chinese. so in that situation, regardless of the fact that i'm a foreigner, this kid really wanted to talk to someone, so he was able to hold a conversation, even though i look nothing like a han chinese person does. who knows though, that's just a theory and i have no backing to it whatsoever.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fE4wAg1vyM&t=30s
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Nov 6, 2016 09:11
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The Great Autismo! posted:who knows though, that's just a theory and i have no backing to it whatsoever. I agree with you though. There are lots of factors at play when it comes to understanding people speaking with an odd accent or a broken version of the language. Some people are inherently better at understanding than others. Whether it's due to exposure, how they parse spoken language, effort put in, or some other factor. Khorne fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Nov 6, 2016 |
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Nov 6, 2016 09:17
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ladron posted:what a strange trick Have I ever told you that your avatar is one of my all-time favorites? Because your avatar is one of my all-time favorites.
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Nov 6, 2016 09:40
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Khorne posted:It's kinda true, because this happens with english speakers as well. There are tons of people who whine about chinese/indian/french/australian/whatever non-american accent teachers/service people and how they can't understand them and their thought process is so different blablabla -------- I skateboarded about 14km this afternoon, having a good time speeding around and hopping over things. I saw three separate Chinese skateboarders. I threw the shaka to each one and kept on moving. They all gave me he most intense puppy-dog eyes when they realized the laowai brethren wasn't going to stop and talk to them. I could have, but I know it's going to turn into "What's your Wechat? Come skate these stairs with me," and the face loss telling them I am too old for that poo poo and knee surgery is not something I need in my life right now and then more puppy-dog eyes and so on. There's a lot of 20-year-old girls here that skateboard and longboard and I am sure I could tap into that market if I hung out with these dudes, but I just feel like making friends with youngbloods and letting them down is not worth it. LOL.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:Have I ever told you that your avatar is one of my all-time favorites? Because your avatar is one of my all-time favorites. aww, thanks man
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The protest in Hong Kong has deviated from its allowed route. Police are now giving dispersal warnings. https://twitter.com/lostdutchhk/status/795192996178239488
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Magna Kaser posted:This was like 5 pages ago so sorry for bringing it back up, but isn't the whole native speaker hears someone speaking their language who isn't obviously also a native and doesn't understand them an established thing that happens? I remember reading about it but forget if it had a fancy name. I lived in japan for like a year, my Japanese is total poo poo, but I learned the basics like how to tell a cab driver go straight go left/right, give a simple order at mcdonalds. my proudest moment was when I got sick and wanted cold medicine so I went to a Japanese drug store walked in and had the following conversation in japanese Me: "hello do you speak English?" Japanese dude: "I am sorry but no" Me: "I am sorry I don't speak Japanese, I have a cold, I want to buy medicine, but I cant read Japanese" Japanese: *happy look on his face babbles in Japanese and goes and puts some boxes in my hand* Now the whole waitress not understanding you did happen to me at a Japanese restraunt....In loving southern California. Really weird having Japanese people in Southern California saying they cant understand you, when you know that your saying the same words that worked back in Japan. So yeah I think expectations play a huge roll in it. I worked in Westminster for alittle bit and really had some fun two Vietnamese ladies were switching to Vietnamese to hide what they were talking about, namely the price they paid for name brand hand bags. But since I knew a few Vietnamese numbers I pieced it together and said "eh I still think that's a lot to pay" the look on their faces was priceless.
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After the oval office shopkeeper in the local big town/city sprawl yesterday, I still needed sand and cement. I also needed some electrical tape which I know the little hardware shop in my local village sells (I don't live in metropolitan hell, so whatever neonoir tech smog neon hellscape you're imagining, forget that because its residental apartment blocks set between jungled mountains and the sea) Anyway I have been round the hardware shops there before, looking down round all the back alleys, and found 2 hardware shops. They both sell screws and small hand tools and lightbulbs and drain cleaner chemicals and bits and bobs like that. Certainly not cement. But today, as if by magic, as I was passing a little food stall restaurant, tables nestled under a sun-bleached tarp, a solution appeared. It was a small hardware shop that I'd never seen before! The difference was that it had the lighting displays lit because it was duak. The other times I'd been looking for hardware shops had been the afternoon, and I obviously hadn't seen his shop through the dim restaurant because it wasn't lit up. Although I have and had paced every little alley in that place, the hardware shop has no street access, apart from through that food place. The guy and his wife were friendly, helpful, even dropped a sentence or two in English, although we were dealing in Canto. The sand was clearly collected from the beach I mentioned earlier, and you bought cement by the ladelfull, which was scooped into a normal plastic carrier bag. The total cost was less than US$6, including two metres of drain pipe (roughly, it wasn't cut exactly), after which he asked if we had all the other specific bits we needed for the job (we did, but it was nice of him to ask if we had x, y and z by name) It's not the most interesting story, I know. But as a contrast to the dickhead yesterday, showing not all Chinese shopkeepers are racist/arsehole/greedy/shortsighted/whatever bastards; as a conclusion to what I posted about; and with a couple of elements that are probably not the same as the US/UK, I thought it might be interesting to some.
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I cant really recall ever being Englished but Ive noticed in Korea and Japan people kind of hold back a but until they feel out how well I can really speak and understand, whereas in China (Guangzhou, which seems to have people from literally every province) as soon as I establish that I can string a sentence together they seem to just jump right into their own dialect/accent and just figure Im totally going to understand their Sichuan-Mandarin or whatever.simplefish posted:After the oval office shopkeeper in the local big town/city sprawl yesterday, I still needed sand and cement. I also have had an extremely good experience with the hole-in-the-wall hardware shop in my neighborhood. Thats definitely one thing I miss about China, all the neat little places hiding in your neighborhood you will go a whole year not noticing until it suddenly becomes important.
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Nov 6, 2016 10:54
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Tupperwarez posted:I swear, it's like they give injections to small business owners that turn them into a pack of greedy, venal bastards. LOL, here's something I saw that fits this in a different way. http://www.straitstimes.com/lifestyle/arts/mining-online-chinese-novels-for-lucrative-content quote:The journey of that novel, from obscurity to mainstream cultural status, resembles one that many Internet-only creations are now taking here as a voracious appetite for intellectual property has sent producers foraging on the Web. Basically, fan-fiction and people trying to milk the system to make money are now "sure" things for lazy studios to pick up and do something with. I am sure there are many rip-offs of Western IPs and books, but audience will never know that. I'm also kind of surprised that studios are buying IP and not ripping it off out-right, though I am sure that happens too. I like how people finally being able to write stories without the government breathing down their necks is considered an amazing thing, but is still called the "People's literature." If Twilight and 50 Shades are any indication of what tons of people posting their amateur writing online is like in English, then I wonder how awful some of the popular Chinese writing is.
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simplefish posted:
You find shopkeepers who are good to you and hold on to them forever. I always go to the same shops again and again because I trust them. And they treat me well.
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Nov 6, 2016 12:11
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Anyone else finding the AQI messure website/apps to be acting strange today? It's supposed to update every hour, but so far today it only updated three times, 8am, 12pm and 6pm.
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Nov 6, 2016 12:23
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GoutPatrol posted:You find shopkeepers who are good to you and hold on to them forever. I always go to the same shops again and again because I trust them. And they treat me well. Hell yeah The place I got copper pipe from was good too, I'm gonna go back there for the sink and stuff. But it's nice to have this local guy for other stuff
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big time bisexual posted:haier trying to swerve on these hos why is the dancing so ..uhh ..like basic and not very rhythmic and lol so little effort And what the gently caress are they saying
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Pon de Bundy posted:why is the dancing so ..uhh ..like basic and not very rhythmic and lol so little effort The further a people are from Africa, the worse the rhythm and dancing. 
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