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Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Vegetable posted:

Vimmer heads the ball because it's otherwise going to the two offside Arsenal men

so he should have left it but instead headed it into his own net the silly lad

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fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

I think the London Arsenals will win this ballgame

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

so he should have left it but instead headed it into his own net the silly lad
yea but it's offside regardless of where his header ends up

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Vegetable posted:

yea but it's offside regardless of where his header ends up

no please read the rules of association football

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

so he should have left it but instead headed it into his own net the silly lad

That's not how the offside rule works

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
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Vegetable posted:

yea but it's offside regardless of where his header ends up

Actually I think you'll find Wimmer was onside

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




It's ok, the self damage ledger has been evened by Coquelin wiping out Mustafi

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

Vegetable posted:

Vimmer heads the ball because it's otherwise going to the two offside Arsenal men

yeah this

crappledan
Dec 17, 2009

Serious Title Contenders
good game. interesting tactics and Two Good Teams. a comedy goal. my favourite fixture in football.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




fart simpson posted:

Actually I think you'll find Wimmer was onside

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
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Yes that's obvious but why does it matter why?

Shoren
Apr 6, 2011

victoria concordia crescit
Wimmer would have headed the ball even if Alexis was the only player up for the free kick and was onside. He didn't even know that there were Arsenal players behind him so they couldn't have influenced him by being offside.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
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It was an excellent header imo. Very nice placement.

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

fart simpson posted:

Yes that's obvious but why does it matter why?

because they are clearly attempting to play a ball which is close to him when this action impacts on an opponent

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

that c/p sentence doesnt make sense now but idc enough to fix it

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

Bogan Krkic posted:

because they are clearly attempting to play a ball which is close to him when this action impacts on an opponent

bellerin was close to him and onside, alexis and ozil were miles away

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

bellerin was close to him and onside, alexis and ozil were miles away

yeah i spose

im not really fussed tbh i just think the call could have gone either way

saihttam
Apr 15, 2006
Enter sadman
yeah its a tough call, Kosc is next to Wimmer and looks onside and closest to be able to head it if Wimmer doesnt.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
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Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Shoren posted:

Wimmer would have headed the ball even if Alexis was the only player up for the free kick and was onside. He didn't even know that there were Arsenal players behind him so they couldn't have influenced him by being offside.
You're right that this is the debatable part. The rule doesn't (and probably can't) codify what it means for an offside player to influence a defender. Do the offside players have to be within the visual range of the defender? But most defenders don't stare at the players they're marking when the ball floats in.

This case is a little more grey area than others but imo it's offside, vimmers was probably aware of the two Arsenal men

curried lamb of God
Aug 31, 2001

we are all Marwinners
Xhaka has been relatively anonymous this half, I'd swap him out for Elneny (come back Santi I miss you)

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

I miss Santi too, this game's begging for somebody like him

crappledan
Dec 17, 2009

Serious Title Contenders

Vegetable posted:

vimmers was probably aware of the two Arsenal men
hes a poo poo garbage flop so no

rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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I love Bellerin

Machinegunboyo
Apr 26, 2010


life is good
Youbiust have to love Arsenal

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

I love a sick sliding tackle

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Mar 26, 2007

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That's an awful call

Edit: nevermind

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Lmaoooooooooooooo

saihttam
Apr 15, 2006
Enter sadman
Haha what

crappledan
Dec 17, 2009

Serious Title Contenders
gently caress you clattenberg are you serious

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Penalty every day of the week

trem_two
Oct 22, 2002

it is better if you keep saying I'm fat, as I will continue to score goals
Fun Shoe

rex rabidorum vires posted:

That's an awful call

nah

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

ffs

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Kos isn't having a great game

Bea Nanner
Oct 20, 2003

Je suis excité!
what the gently caress

Enkor
Dec 17, 2005
That is not it at all.
that's 2 goals for spurs

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

Welp,

saihttam
Apr 15, 2006
Enter sadman
Just bad defending overall, too weak, no ones gets in

curried lamb of God
Aug 31, 2001

we are all Marwinners
lmao gently caress you clattenburg, dembele was already falling before koscielny touched him

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EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

curried lamb of God posted:

lmao gently caress you clattenburg, dembele was already falling before koscielny touched him

It's a penalty you moron

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