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fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Haier posted:

So have any of these constant HK protests ever accomplished anything except getting places shut down or too crowded? I think the CCP see them the same way some guy in Zimbabwe sees them. "Heh, why are they standing around?"

Well, the intital protests did get several young lawmakers elected into the LegCo, two of which are at the center of the oath row currently. If anything Beijings heavy handed responses to these protests does put more and more HK people off China. So yeah, they achieve more than a billion people collectively shrugging and going "eh, what can you do" before spitting on the ground and lighting up under a no-smoking sign.

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caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Haier posted:

So have any of these constant HK protests ever accomplished anything except getting places shut down or too crowded? I think the CCP see them the same way some guy in Zimbabwe sees them. "Heh, why are they standing around?"

Seriously?

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?
guys we need to do a SWOT analysis before resisting tyranny and corruption

the triads probably did though when they sided with beijing

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

caberham posted:

Seriously?

Seriously.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

Grand Fromage posted:

My last apartment in Korea had nowhere to vent the AC, so the guy just smashed a hole in my window and ran the tube out through it. :thumbsup:
LOL, here's my apartment AC, with included beauty filter.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

caberham posted:

Seriously?
Seriously. If you want to do a write up, it'd be enlightening. I live in a country that saw the biggest protests since the civil war, and we still invaded Iraq. You'll have to forgive my pessimism.

Also :lol: at that photo. When you said they made a hole, I thought they used glass cutters or something. This is like something out of a 1980s British sitcom.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

UltraRed posted:

Seriously. If you want to do a write up, it'd be enlightening. I live in a country that saw the biggest protests since the civil war, and we still invaded Iraq. You'll have to forgive my pessimism.

Also :lol: at that photo. When you said they made a hole, I thought they used glass cutters or something. This is like something out of a 1980s British sitcom.

Beijing doesn't care because they know HK is theirs and they will not wait the allotted time to merge respectfully, and this is already being proven regularly. Whatever changes happen by HK locals will be short-lived and/or temporary. Once the Mainlander saturation (and their kids grow up) forces out the locals, HK will be a slightly fancier Shanghai or an extension of Shenzhen. Nobody is going to come rescue HK when the sloppy hillbilly army storms through Futian/Lowu/Huanggang Checkpoint in their poorly-made jackboots, calling relatives to tell them that they are going abroad for the first time. I'm not saying surrender and die, but the writing is on the wall and now that HK is back to China, China is going to do their best to throw their tantrums and grasp as much control as possible. It sucks HK shares a land border with China, because otherwise I would see it as being a Taiwan 2.0 situation instead.

But the posters from HK can all just fly back to their home countries when it gets too China-fied.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Hong Kong is my home. I'm not going anywhere.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Funny enough, Hong Kong indigneous, the nativist party is actually full of kids born/grew up in the mainland.

Edward Leung tin kei and quite a few handful of the new kids reject their mainland roots and hate mainlanders.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
gently caress Mainlanders.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

oohhboy posted:

gently caress Mainlanders.
Step into this van, please. We have something we'd like to discuss with you for a little while in another province.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010
It will be interesting to see if China collapses economically (as opposed to just slowly stagnate) what will happen to HK.

Also what's happening in HK might not save HK, but it sure as hell might be a wake up call for Taiwan, I'd be surprised if the independence movement in Taiwan does not get increased support after what's happening in HK.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

quote:

Recovering from their initial surprise, most of the middle-aged Chinese visitors joined in. “F--- the Japanese devils! F--- their mothers!” they cheered back, with whistles and clapping, in an expletive-filled echo.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...omepage%2Fstory

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

quote:

Wealthy Beijingers left disillusioned after shelling out AU$1 million for Aussie ranch

Unfortunately, despite various plans Lei made for the ranch, fortunes seemed set against him. He had planned to transport powerful fertilizer from China, but Australian law bans the use of fertilizer. He had planned to raise cows to make money selling milk, but the nearest milk-processing facility was located 200 kilometers away. Hiring a driver and workers to transport the milk would cost him AU$1.3 AUD per liter sold. A lack of facilities also forced him to abandon his idea to plant grapes for wine.

What’s more, Lei didn’t anticipate that the local agricultural association would tightly limit the number of cattle he could raise in order to protect the land. He also never imagined that the cost of labor in Australia would be three times that of China.

Forced to find a way to make money, Lei’s wife took on the farm plow herself. She now trims fruit trees, eradicates wild grass, sprays pesticide and covers fruit with plastic to protect it from pests. In her words, she has “endless work,” and no choice but to stick with her tiring routine. The labor exhausts her so much that she uses herbal medicine to relax her muscles at night.

Another disappointment for Lei is the lonely lifestyle. “The nearest neighbor is 50 kilometers away. That scene of barbequing with friends on a ranch only happens in movies,” remarked Lei. Indeed, Candy, a professional realtor specializing in ranches, said many of her Chinese clients have given up their ranches thanks to unsatisfactory dividends and the isolated lifestyle.

Surprise at laws and regulations, environmental protection, lack of planning, forcing wife to back breaking work, using tcm, surprised at lonely life on the range. :allears:

BCR
Jan 23, 2011



Harbin

ming-the-mazdaless
Nov 30, 2005

Whore funded horsepower

Outrail posted:

For the most part anyway.



I lived there for a while. 4.0% seems pretty low from casual observation on the street.
It is truly the most hateful place I can conceive of.

put all slavers to torch.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

BCR posted:

Surprise at laws and regulations, environmental protection, lack of planning, forcing wife to back breaking work, using tcm, surprised at lonely life on the range. :allears:

While I've never subscribed to the whole "eat the rich" mentality, I must say that seeing rich Mainlanders get owned fills me with immense schadenfreude.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

quote:

she uses herbal medicine to relax her muscles at night.

well, I mean, so do I...:420:

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


UltraRed posted:

Also :lol: at that photo. When you said they made a hole, I thought they used glass cutters or something. This is like something out of a 1980s British sitcom.

Mine looked the same. A glass cutter would be vaguely professional. The guy at my place just took out a wrench and smashed a hole.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

ming-the-mazdaless posted:

I lived there for a while. 4.0% seems pretty low from casual observation on the street.
It is truly the most hateful place I can conceive of.

put all slavers to torch.

Jesus, have any stories?


Edit: Stuck, "site:imgur.com mauritania OR nouakchott," into reddit's search and this was on the first page of results

Title: Two girls we met in an oasis town in Mauritania. They were offered to us as wives - we politely declined [1280x850]

Image:


:smith:

Accretionist fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Nov 7, 2016

E_P
Feb 22, 2003

Let it be known this is for typical POS goon apts. The apt I am renting they used a cement cutter and cut a small circle through the wall and epoxy'd it up after so no air comes through. This is less of an Asia thing and more of a lowest price option for whoever hired them since they dont have to live there.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

quote:

He also never imagined that the cost of labor in Australia would be three times that of China.

Can't he just do what the Chinese do in Africa and bring a bunch of desperate Chinese with him to till the land?

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
That chemical plant explosion from a few pages back actually had two angles:

Angle 1:

http://i.imgur.com/y4O2PiC.mp4


Angle 2:

http://i.imgur.com/coIrEce.mp4


(^^Korea)

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

nickmeister posted:

Can't he just do what the Chinese do in Africa and bring a bunch of desperate Chinese with him to till the land?

Gina Rinehart is certainly trying to legalise just that.

$2 pay a day for all imported labourers who fail the paper bag test :australia:

ming-the-mazdaless
Nov 30, 2005

Whore funded horsepower

Accretionist posted:

Jesus, have any stories?


Edit: Stuck, "site:imgur.com mauritania OR nouakchott," into reddit's search and this was on the first page of results

Title: Two girls we met in an oasis town in Mauritania. They were offered to us as wives - we politely declined [1280x850]

Image:


:smith:

I tried to buy a slave's freedom. I was able to set his price with pocket change.
I was then asked by the slaver, how I was going to care for him, that hosed me up more than anything.
People are literally ok with slavery and slavers because it's a life...

As for bride life in Mauritania, read about fat farms (I didn't read your link). Another bleak story that will have you lobbying pre-emptive first strike. There are few places in the world sadder than Mauritania.

e2a:
My Great China story involves Huawei in Mauritania.
Basically, the "engineer" on site performs a change at the request of some rear end clown in Shenzen. The change is to shift all prepaid mobile traffic from the route to bill as a prepaid call, to the post paid route.
In a country where 99.9% of traffic is prepaid this is devastating.
Huawei refused to acknowledge their role, or even assist in remediation. The client was lucky I was there to diagnose the problem.

ming-the-mazdaless fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Nov 7, 2016

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010
Guys, we're all going to jail!

quote:

China Monday passed a controversial cybersecurity bill further tightening restrictions on online freedom of speech, raising concerns that it could intensify already wide-ranging Internet censorship.

The law, which was approved by the National People’s Congress Standing Committee, bans Internet users from publishing a wide variety of information, including anything that damages “national honour”, “disturbs economic or social order” or is aimed at “overthrowing the socialist system”.

Under regulations announced at the time, Chinese internet users face three years in prison for writing defamatory messages that are re-posted 500 times or more. Web users can also be jailed if offending posts are viewed more than 5,000 times.

https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/11/07/china-passes-controversial-cybersecurity-law-as-online-freedoms-tighten-further/

gently caress this, I'm saying 8 more months, maybe I'll cut my time here short, contracts be damned.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


Mauritania (and many other places people are desperate to gtfo of) is getting into the lucrative skype dating scam industry.
http://romancescamsnow.com/scammer-albums-lists/

Which Chinagoon had the coworker who was totally worried about her Nigerian prince?

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
“disturbs economic or social order” = "Talking about the bubble and other economic problems and impending doom."

They'll just wake up one day and be like "What happened? Nobody told me this was going on."

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Not to turn this thread into groverhaus, but I got the pipes cemented in.

Did I do it to UK building regulations? No.
Was the original building built to UK building regulations? No.
Was what the guy who added a tap before me did done to any sort of building regulations? No.
Could I get the tools and materials that I'm familiar with? No.
Is mine an improvement and will it work? Yes.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Haier posted:

“disturbs economic or social order” = "Talking about the bubble and other economic problems and impending doom."

They'll just wake up one day and be like "What happened? Nobody told me this was going on."

Hey maybe Chinese banks are as solid as people believe? *disappears in an unmarked van, until seven months later being paraded on CCTV1*

Speleothing
May 6, 2008

Spare batteries are pretty key.

Baronjutter posted:

I knew a guy who's job was basically doing exactly that. Rich middle-eastern folk would buy his crew and containers full of north-american sourced materials to build McMansions because even a mcmansion was a huge quality step up compared with the poo poo they had. He was from arizona so they were more south-west style houses rather than that Korean example, which made a lot more sense in the middle east.

Unfortunately, the American SW is full of lovely matchstick McMansions that need to run ac on full blast for 9 months of the year. Building the easy way instead of the climate-appropriate way is the case for construction companies everywhere.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

simplefish posted:

Not to turn this thread into groverhaus, but I got the pipes cemented in.

Did I do it to UK building regulations? No.
Was the original building built to UK building regulations? No.
Was what the guy who added a tap before me did done to any sort of building regulations? No.
Could I get the tools and materials that I'm familiar with? No.
Is mine an improvement and will it work? Yes.

Need more house stories

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Didn't someone recently ask about plastic rice?

https://twitter.com/Dakini_Goddess/status/795297813206798336

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Good lord.

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
They're not... really going to... try to feed that to people, are they?! That's for like displays or something, right? :ohdear:

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Fake food is just the most bizarre thing in this entire thread for me. It just goes against everything I thought I knew about how things should work.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

*Chinese immigrant bites into wax apple* ah yes, I fell for a similar scheme back in my homeland *you try to explain that it's face saving and he smiles and nods but in his heart thinks you're trying to save face*.

Lazer Monkey
Jan 15, 2005

Pretty sleek operation they have going there..

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

ming-the-mazdaless posted:

I tried to buy a slave's freedom. I was able to set his price with pocket change.
I was then asked by the slaver, how I was going to care for him, that hosed me up more than anything.
People are literally ok with slavery and slavers because it's a life...
How much are we talking here? I'm kinda surprised there's not a charity that just literally buys slaves and then frees them, even if they'd also have to set up work for them so they don't starve to death.

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Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

i'm no slavery expert but i'm pretty sure that even if you free slaves but still allow slavery, there will still be lots of slaves. another scenario is that i am not a slaver, but i see some charity paying out for slaves. now there is a demand, and i will become a slaver.

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