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TildeATH posted:Any good research papers on the role of climate change in recent conflict in the Middle East and North Africa?
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Copenhagen is an amazing city in many ways.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:24
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just found out that nasa says my home state will suffer a second dustbowl thanks to climate change, and will become so arid afterwards that it will become a new sahara oklahoma 
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Condiv posted:just found out that nasa says my home state will suffer a second dustbowl thanks to climate change, and will become so arid afterwards that it will become a new sahara It's a terrible place that votes for climate change deniers like it's their job.
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Nov 7, 2016 17:36
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TildeATH posted:It's a terrible place that votes for climate change deniers like it's their job. it's also where i spent most of my life and met a lot of good people. hearing that it may become uninhabitable in the future hurts
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Nov 7, 2016 17:39
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Isn't that the home state of Mary "Pray for Oil" Fallin?
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Condiv posted:just found out that nasa says my home state will suffer a second dustbowl thanks to climate change, and will become so arid afterwards that it will become a new sahara That's pretty strong language for Nasa, curious for linky? I just checked with this paper. http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JCLI-D-13-00273.1 It basically analyses what all the different models say about climate changes for North America. (I am familiar with this stuff because I am doing work on California) Oklahoma exists in-between the latitudinal band where we expect drying to the south and wetting to the north (both generally very robust changes) and things are supposed to be super uncertain in-between, where Oklahoma is. But for some reason for Oklahoma (And Kansas and Nebraska, that longitudinal band) the models are in pretty good agreement that summer drying there is going to be a thing, up to -0.5mm per day on average by 2100. 
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Nov 8, 2016 02:46
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So what's it gonna be like, living in RCP8.5?
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ComradeCosmobot posted:So what's it gonna be like, living in RCP8.5? Much more decentralized
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NewForumSoftware posted:Much more decentralized at the molecular level
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Nov 9, 2016 06:45
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One of the most depressing things about this entire election has been that it was never a goddamn issue on the discussion table for MSM and the two candidates on offer. And now we are possibly close to electing a jackass who will deregulate industries that will ruin the world even further. And he will blame China for climate change as a hoax the whole way through. I'll sustain myself with the memory of Bernie answering "Climate Change" when asked what was the largest issue facing the USA.
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its no big deal posted:One of the most depressing things about this entire election has been that it was never a goddamn issue on the discussion table for MSM and the two candidates on offer. Hey man, don't worry! A bunch of nations met in Paris and agreed to definitely start thinking about a plan that will keep us under a warming target that's already passed! Nothing can go wrong.
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Nov 9, 2016 07:06
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We're pretty well hosed now. As much as I liked to bitch that we weren't doing enough (because we weren't), the one thing we legitimately had on our side was the rhetoric. The Democrats were at least willing to acknowledge the problem and offer a way forward, even if it was often too little too late. Now we're stuck with someone who doesn't believe in climate change at all and will possibly spearhead policies that will actually accelerate our rate of emissions. Oh, and he's got full control of the federal government too. I may post gloomy poo poo in this thread sometimes, but I've never actually felt despondent about climate change and I've always been optimistic that we'll get our poo poo together eventually. I'm not optimistic anymore. I think we're screwed and that we've screwed our children too.
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Paradoxish posted:
I mean, climate change is The Issue, full stop. A lot of other things flow from it and will continue to flow more from it, and there is no hope to address it in a real way if Donny becomes president.
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Ol Standard Retard posted:I mean, climate change is The Issue, full stop. A lot of other things flow from it and will continue to flow more from it, and there is no hope to address it in a real way if Donny becomes president. Not an issue anymore, in the same way an inoperable brain tumor is not an issue so much as terminal
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Nov 9, 2016 07:19
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Uncle Jam posted:Hey man, don't worry! A bunch of nations met in Paris and agreed to definitely start thinking about a plan that will keep us under a warming target that's already passed! Nothing can go wrong.  Paradoxish posted:I think we're screwed and that we've screwed our children too. A customer at the coffee shop I work at asked me if I wanted kids. I said no. He asked why. I bullshitted about lifestyle and money. Those are part of it, but really I couldn't figure out how to tell this man, who's holding his baby daughter, that I think the world is totally hosed. I didn't know how to say that in a matter of decades societal collapse on some level will happen and that the children of today will be ruined by it and I can't bring someone into that. His daughter gave me a high five.
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Nov 9, 2016 07:20
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call to action posted:gently caress all you dumb optimists, glad you were proven wrong that's the spirit call to action (the action is being smug)
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Nov 9, 2016 07:42
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I hope releasing sulfates into the air works and doesn't kill us all even faster
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Nov 9, 2016 07:50
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So another four years of bravely ignoring the problem and demanding even more pollution and destruction for a quick buck. Hurray. I hate this damned country.
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Nov 9, 2016 08:08
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Geostomp posted:So another four years of bravely ignoring the problem and demanding even more pollution and destruction for a quick buck. Hurray. Just quoting cause I agree and am losing my ability to do words.
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Nov 9, 2016 08:15
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Geostomp posted:So another four years of bravely ignoring the problem and demanding even more pollution and destruction for a quick buck. Hurray. Uhh this got decided a few months ago though I thought?
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NewForumSoftware posted:Uhh this got decided a few months ago though I thought? Trump won, Republicans have everything so expect things to get so much worse as they pander to all their interests and base's demands.
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Nov 9, 2016 08:22
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Geostomp posted:Trump won, Republicans have everything so expect things to get so much worse as they pander to all their interests and base's demands. personally i'm not invested in who gets to oversee the collapse of industrial civilization, something tells me they will stop mattering pretty quick
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Nov 9, 2016 08:34
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Global warming is going to be bad, regardless of who was elected, It's just going to be way worse now. The real idiots (in regards to global warming) are those who thought capitalism would adjust to climate change, cause lmao it's going to resist change until the end of humanity, especially now.
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Geostomp posted:So another four years of bravely ignoring the problem and demanding even more pollution and destruction for a quick buck. Hurray. Dehumamize yourself and face to trumpshed. EDIT: I am actually having a mini panic attack over this in another thread now. What the gently caress are we gonna do?! WHAT THE gently caress ARE WE GONNA DO?! (Nothing, probably) Inglonias fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Nov 9, 2016 11:24
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Anyone who refuses to give in to nihilism and hasn't read Isaac Asimov's Foundation series should probably go and read it right now. I would say it's time to start thinking about setting up a group along similar lines.
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Inglonias posted:Dehumamize yourself and face to trumpshed. The same thing we needed to do if Hillary was elected. Build a coalition mass movement, win local elections, and pressure elected officials to act. The difference is Hillary would have given more lip service to the threat of climate change and probably would have done a bit more to support small (effectively meaningless) changes in energy policy, but remember she would also have been hamstrung by a congressional blockade. Under Trump, the US energy policy will be more of the status quo. Oil and gas production will increase, but production was already expanding before this election. There's going to be a lot of people who are going to resist Trump and the Republicans on a lot of things, and are going to realize they have to get out, protest, and build an alternative. It might be local third parties, it might be based first in anti-racism, or labor, or anti-sexism. Find those people and work with them.
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Nov 9, 2016 16:35
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Yeah, sorry international fam. Our new president thinks climate change is a hoax, and our GOP-controlled legislative branch is going to gut the EPA and all regulatory agencies. The anarcho-capitalist uprise in the US is gonna cook the planet.
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Uranium Phoenix posted:The same thing we needed to do if Hillary was elected. Build a coalition mass movement, win local elections, and pressure elected officials to act. The difference is Hillary would have given more lip service to the threat of climate change and probably would have done a bit more to support small (effectively meaningless) changes in energy policy, but remember she would also have been hamstrung by a congressional blockade. Under Trump, the US energy policy will be more of the status quo. Oil and gas production will increase, but production was already expanding before this election. I think you're broadly right. At the same time a spade is a spade, Trump is definitely going to roll back the CPP which was one of the few positive achievements of climate change in the US over the past few years.
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Facehammer posted:Anyone who refuses to give in to nihilism and hasn't read Isaac Asimov's Foundation series should probably go and read it right now. I would say it's time to start thinking about setting up a group along similar lines. There are a number of community projects that already exist for folks looking to make it through the Jackpot, they mostly go by Transition towns or Eco villages. I know some well educated folks who now spend their days laying foundation for rammed earth houses powered by solar and installing rainwater catchment systems. Hope you enjoy backbreaking work.
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Wakko posted:There are a number of community projects that already exist for folks looking to make it through the Jackpot, they mostly go by Transition towns or Eco villages. I know some well educated folks who now spend their days laying foundation for rammed earth houses powered by solar and installing rainwater catchment systems. Hope you enjoy backbreaking work. I hope those well educated folks have good future rainfall models.
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Wakko posted:There are a number of community projects that already exist for folks looking to make it through the Jackpot, they mostly go by Transition towns or Eco villages. I know some well educated folks who now spend their days laying foundation for rammed earth houses powered by solar and installing rainwater catchment systems. Hope you enjoy backbreaking work. You know what? If nothing else, its exercise.
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It's hard to say what will happen because Trump has no actual policy positions of his own, just lines that get applause so he re-uses them, but if he follows through on withdrawing from the Paris accords then it's hard to have any hope whatsoever even if you go into survivalist mode.
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Is there any hope if people belatedly go for crazy geo engineering stuff, or should I tell my nephew when he's old enough that he's utterly hosed.
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ShredsYouSay posted:Is there any hope if people belatedly go for crazy geo engineering stuff, or should I tell my nephew when he's old enough that he's utterly hosed. lol @ the idea that everyone is "hosed" ahhhh can you imagine living life like 99% of humans that have ever existed? truly a life not worth living white people are the worst, please don't brainwash your nephew into committing suicide
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It will probably be obvious by that point. And yes there is hope that people go for crazy geo-engineering, it's almost guaranteed I think. Which isn't to say it's a good idea in the slightest. NewForumSoftware posted:lol @ the idea that everyone is "hosed" Or how about I imagine human beings living in a climate that no human has experienced on Earth before. Also go gently caress yourself with your idiotic 'white people' bullshit. Mozi fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Welp, here's where it starts. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-picks-top-climate-skeptic-to-lead-epa-transition/
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