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🙃🙃🙃quote:Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre is admitting he telephoned then-police chief Marc Parent in 2014 to talk about journalist Patrick Lagacé, just before police obtained search warrants to look at Lagacé's cell phone logs.
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Nov 7, 2016 15:08
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What phone number should a citizen call to ask the Chief a question about legalities? (Presuming said citizen's retained counsel is indisposed.)
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Nov 7, 2016 15:29
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I am again amazed at Montreals capacity to continually elect the most corrupt municipal politicians outside of Mexico. (Chicago may have them beat in aggregate.)
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Nov 7, 2016 15:57
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ocrumsprug posted:I am again amazed at Montreals capacity to continually elect the most corrupt municipal politicians outside of Mexico. (Chicago may have them beat in aggregate.) Toronto is just as corrupt, but the citizens here don't care for some reason.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:09
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quote:http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/more-than-half-of-ontarians-think-wynne-should-resign-poll-1.3148901  Ikantski porn itt. Horwath seems to have a high approval rating for doing something  LPC are handing over the reigns to the OPC because Wynne wont step aside.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:16
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Risky Bisquick posted:
She'll step aside shortly before the election, somebody like Sousa will take over, Patrick Brown will make some gaffe where he promises to fire a million schoolteachers for being gay or something, Andrea Horwath will run her campaign on ATM fees, and we'll reelect the OLP with a slim majority because hey, Sousa hasn't Premier for very long so there's nothing to hold against him and really it was Kathleen Wynne that was the problem, not the party itself!
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Nov 7, 2016 16:18
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Toronto is just as corrupt, but the citizens here don't care for some reason. There's a veneer of respectability around corruption in Toronto. In Toronto, it's the twinkling echoes of shimmering shattering glass shards, whereas in Montreal it's a chunk of concrete smashing your skull during a birthday dinner with your spouse. Also John Tory is a fuckwit who's going to piss away billions with his lovely third-rate PPP failure of a transit plan.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:20
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eXXon posted:Also John Tory is a fuckwit who's going to piss away billions with his lovely third-rate PPP failure of a transit plan. Daily reminder that we did not vote for Wynne so much as we voted against Hudak and ignored that other person who I think was a stuffed doll with no face, I'm not sure. Our opinion of Wynne has sunk but I don't see that our options have changed much.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:24
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vyelkin posted:She'll step aside shortly before the election, somebody like Sousa will take over, Patrick Brown will make some gaffe where he promises to fire a million schoolteachers for being gay or something, Andrea Horwath will run her campaign on ATM fees, and we'll reelect the OLP with a slim majority because hey, Sousa hasn't Premier for very long so there's nothing to hold against him and really it was Kathleen Wynne that was the problem, not the party itself! I swear that woman's campaign team is incompetent. They called the previous election and folded like a house of cards due to a lack of a plan. But really now, is it her team or is it the party itself? ONDP can't figure out what they are doing. eXXon posted:There's a veneer of respectability around corruption in Toronto. In Toronto, it's the twinkling echoes of shimmering shattering glass shards, whereas in Montreal it's a chunk of concrete smashing your skull during a birthday dinner with your spouse. I, too, think Tory is dumb but if he puts transit on the ground that is a plus.
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Nov 7, 2016 16:23
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Toronto is just as corrupt, but the citizens here don't care for some reason. Ehhh. Business in Quebec is done differently than in Ontario. Much more about explicitly about relationships and backscratching. e: I would guess politics is done differently too
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Nov 7, 2016 17:13
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Risky Bisquick posted:I swear that woman's campaign team is incompetent. They called the previous election and folded like a house of cards due to a lack of a plan. But really now, is it her team or is it the party itself? ONDP can't figure out what they are doing. Its a bit of both. The ONDP has a lot of infighting over the direction of the party and Horwath's team is the same ones that ran Mulcair's run to the center so we already know their incompetence. quote:I, too, think Tory is dumb but if he puts transit on the ground that is a plus. Is it really a plus if no one uses it because its in a spot that doesnt and will never need it?
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Nov 7, 2016 17:15
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Risky Bisquick posted:
He will bury some transit underground by canceling reasonable projects that would be under construction by now, spending twice what they're worth and commiting the city to spending billions more maintaining these boondoggles, paying for them by slashing library budgets while stubbornly refusing to raise taxes. I'm not convinced that this is better than nothing.
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Nov 7, 2016 17:30
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ocrumsprug posted:I am again amazed at Montreals capacity to continually elect the most corrupt municipal politicians outside of Mexico. (Chicago may have them beat in aggregate.) I mean have you ever looked at the mayoral ballot in Montreal in recent years? It's sort of a shitshow.
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Nov 7, 2016 17:31
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Jordan7hm posted:Ehhh. Business in Quebec is done differently than in Ontario. Much more about explicitly about relationships and backscratching. What would qualify as explicit and backscratching enough for you? Lobbyists, who worked on the Mayor's campaign, now working for companies that are buying up the very same public assets our Mayor is trying to sell off? Because that's happening to Toronto Hydro right now.
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Nov 7, 2016 17:33
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Risky Bisquick posted:I, too, think Tory is dumb but if he puts transit on the ground that is a plus. Yeah, that would be a thing if he were actually putting transit on the ground. He is not. So far he's walked back his election promise of "SmartTrack", to be the already planned RER, with Toronto helping to foot the bill. He has no intention of paying for it, as he won't raise the required revenue, he's just saddling us with further unfunded capital expenditures and leaving the already overburdened TTC on the hook for the operating costs of the non-RER chunk of the hypothetical service (Eglinton west LRT). This is on top of the rapidly increasing cost of the one-stop subway extension to a suburban mall that will never be built, but is churning hundreds of millions in consulting and analysis fees. And this is ignoring the much bigger problem with John Tory, specifically the bit where he keeps hiring his friends to consult on privatizing city assets. So now we have people who were integral to his campaign consulting on how to sell Toronto Hydro, and co-incidentally, unsolicited bids from Enbridge, run by other friends of his to buy it. Just in case anyone thinks this is hyperbole: https://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2016/11/04/enbridge-making-toronto-hydro-privatization-pitch.html https://www.thestar.com/news/city_hall/2016/10/21/hydro-consultants-worked-on-tory-campaign.html infernal machines fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Nov 7, 2016 17:34
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eXXon posted:He will bury some transit underground by canceling reasonable projects that would be under construction by now, spending twice what they're worth and commiting the city to spending billions more maintaining these boondoggles, paying for them by slashing library budgets while stubbornly refusing to raise taxes. It is not. But amusingly this whole thing appears to be his stubborn insistence on implementing what was clearly a fantastical and cynically conceived election ploy. As in, he somehow does not realize that SmartTrack was never meant to work, it was meant to get him elected and he should have shut up about it pretty much immediately afterwards because it was literally impossible to do, for all the reasons his opponents said it was during the campaign. Instead he keeps loving talking about it, so that he has to very publicly walk it back, and fend off inconvenient questions about how any of it is meant to work with his other cynical election ploy that was never meant to work on any practical level, the Scarborough subway extension.
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Nov 7, 2016 17:44
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I think I should cut Nenshi more slack, he may be a bit of a dick but he's pretty clearly the most competent mayor in Canada even so. Comparing him against an ideal perfect mayor, he falls very far short, but compared to all large city mayors in Canada I have to confess he's pretty loving good.
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Nov 7, 2016 17:46
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PT6A posted:I think I should cut Nenshi more slack, he may be a bit of a dick but he's pretty clearly the most competent mayor in Canada even so. Compare Nenshi to Iveson (which is often done) - Nenshi is more competent, better at negotiating with other levels of government, and has better policy priorities.
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Nov 7, 2016 17:49
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Landsknecht posted:Compare Nenshi to Iveson (which is often done) - Nenshi is more competent, better at negotiating with other levels of government, and has better policy priorities. Iveson is a mess all around. His project portfolio is an unbroken line of failure at all levels. It shocks me that he has any political capital left. Nenshi is way too close to the CPS and is terrible at communicating the "soft aspects" of decisions (muni art budget, densification etc) because he has policy wonks communicate those choices to a largely unqualified council but I can't think of any project on his portfolio he's bungled as badly as Iveson's average. Seat Safety Switch fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Nov 7, 2016 |
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Nov 7, 2016 17:54
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Iveson is a mess all around. His project portfolio is an unbroken line of failure at all levels. It shocks me that he has any political capital left. The same could be said for John Tory's entire political career, it hasn't slowed him down any.
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Nov 7, 2016 17:55
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Nov 7, 2016 18:01
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infernal machines posted:The same could be said for John Tory's entire political career, it hasn't slowed him down any. It's true. For years the joke was that John Tory couldn't get elected as neighborhood watch captain. Turns out it took being the alternative to a literal crack smoker and an international joke, and also the help of Nick Kouvalis to install him as mayor.
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Nov 7, 2016 18:00
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I don't think Olivia Chow smokes crack?
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Nov 7, 2016 18:08
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Maybe she should start.
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Nov 7, 2016 18:12
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I don't believe she's ever denied smoking crack
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Nov 7, 2016 18:20
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infernal machines posted:I don't believe she's ever denied smoking crack Perhaps because she was too busy... smoking crack!
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Nov 7, 2016 18:22
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Our Man Gregor definitely doesn't smoke crack, unless it's sold from Whole Foods in a cyclist and environmentally friendly packaging.
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Nov 7, 2016 18:30
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CLAM DOWN posted:Our Man Gregor definitely doesn't smoke crack, unless it's sold from Whole Foods in a cyclist and environmentally friendly packaging. All-organic pure Colombian powder, man.
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Nov 7, 2016 18:35
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The "best" part of this is that Coderre is the best mayor Montreal has had in decades. Yup. Think about that for a while.
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Nov 7, 2016 18:38
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laurent blanchard was ok
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Nov 7, 2016 18:45
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Is there a town that elected a cat mayor? Probably the best mayor in the country.
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Nov 7, 2016 18:54
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Dreylad posted:I mean have you ever looked at the mayoral ballot in Montreal in recent years? It's sort of a shitshow. I'm still laughing at the fact that Melanie Joly swore she wouldn't just gently caress off to try and get elected to another office if she didn't get control of town Hall and would serve as a Councillor and then did exactly that. e: And also that one of her running mates was a Call Girl who wanted to convert to the bitcoin system. She may have been a 9/11 truther too if memory serves.
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Nov 7, 2016 19:03
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Nenshi is way too close to the CPS and is terrible at communicating the "soft aspects" of decisions (muni art budget, densification etc) because he has policy wonks communicate those choices to a largely unqualified council Hitting the nail on the head I think. And yeah, the council in this city is extremely underwhelming, to put it mildly. I guess it's a pretty accurate representation of the electorate though, so at least there's that.
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Nov 7, 2016 19:54
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Nine of Eight posted:I'm still laughing at the fact that Melanie Joly swore she wouldn't just gently caress off to try and get elected to another office if she didn't get control of town Hall and would serve as a Councillor and then did exactly that. I'm still bitter over the fact she's my MP.
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Nov 7, 2016 19:57
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Iveson is a mess all around. His project portfolio is an unbroken line of failure at all levels. It shocks me that he has any political capital left. Iveson has managed to screw up a lot - major projects are often years overdue, any community which has dealt with the city sees staff as out of touch, and the budget is terrible Barring anything major though he's going to win again, mostly because he (like many successful big city mayors) knows how to keep the right people happy
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Nov 7, 2016 22:39
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Risky Bisquick posted:I, too, think Tory is dumb but if he puts transit on the ground that is a plus. I'd honestly rather have nothing than his trash plan.
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Nov 7, 2016 23:20
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GENDERED SLUR posted:I'd honestly rather have nothing than his trash plan. I've got good news for you
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Nov 7, 2016 23:23
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Nine of Eight posted:I'm still laughing at the fact that Melanie Joly swore she wouldn't just gently caress off to try and get elected to another office if she didn't get control of town Hall and would serve as a Councillor and then did exactly that. She was! She was a 9/11 truther, straight up. And the worst part is for a brief moment I thought of voting for them.
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Nov 7, 2016 23:32
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If you think the mayors and councils of big cities are bad, you don't even wanna know what goes on in the small municipalities. Of course, no one pays attention to small town politics either in aggregate or in these towns themselves, which is exactly the problem. It's literally criminal what happens in some of these places.
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Nov 7, 2016 23:34
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You guys will like this I thinkquote:With the U.S. election less than a week away, the number of celebrities, public figures and everyday people threatening to migrate north should Donald Trump land in the White House are multiplying.
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Nov 7, 2016 23:51
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