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Lime Tonics posted:If you have a samsung washing machine, you could have a BOMB! in your house. No loving joke. I had one of them. They lift off and violently throw themselves around the room.
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Tony Snark posted:Not really, it's the normal usual ratio of individuals that can be trusted to safely use dangerous thing versus the hordes of idiots that shouldn't be trusted with anything more complicated than a spoon. There's a ford in my town where a stream runs across a back road. After heavy rain, it becomes impassable but the extensive warning signs and the fact that you're basically driving into a loving lake doesn't deter drivers from routinely cheerfully plowing into 7 feet of water. "No more can be done to stop "idiotic" drivers getting stuck in Charvil ford, says highways chief" http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local-news/no-more-can-done-stop-6521474
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Skarsnik posted:Nah you're right, they totally didn't think of that over the last however many years There are idiots out there practicing idiot engineering and from what I see the south tends to have a good concentration of them. I managed an asphalt paving contract this summer with one street that had a hospital overpass with a little over 14-foot clearance. I reminded my inspector a few times that the contractor should mill 3-inches of pavement and replace it with 3-inches of asphalt underneath the overpass. I also told the contractor the same and guess what happened? There is the same clearance now as before. Magic!
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So glad that bus is there, makes the tractor trailer look like it just materializes out of nowhere to body slam that VW.
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Neutrino posted:There are idiots out there practicing idiot engineering and from what I see the south tends to have a good concentration of them. I managed an asphalt paving contract this summer with one street that had a hospital overpass with a little over 14-foot clearance. I reminded my inspector a few times that the contractor should mill 3-inches of pavement and replace it with 3-inches of asphalt underneath the overpass. I also told the contractor the same and guess what happened? There is the same clearance now as before. Magic! Then call them
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Let us know what they say so it can be added to the OP
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Neutrino posted:There are idiots out there practicing idiot engineering and from what I see the south tends to have a good concentration of them. I managed an asphalt paving contract this summer with one street that had a hospital overpass with a little over 14-foot clearance. I reminded my inspector a few times that the contractor should mill 3-inches of pavement and replace it with 3-inches of asphalt underneath the overpass. I also told the contractor the same and guess what happened? There is the same clearance now as before. Magic! what year in engineering wizard school do they teach you the spell for making smug remarks based on an inference from an estimated 2 inch differential eyeballed from a lovely jpeg?
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from a cost benefit standpoint it doesn't make sense for the city to spend money on the road if only one idiot a month gets stuck and no damage is done to public property
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food court bailiff posted:what year in engineering wizard school do they teach you the spell for making smug remarks based on an inference from an estimated 2 inch differential eyeballed from a lovely jpeg? The first rule of Engineering Wizard School is don't talk about Engineering Wizard School. (shh, it's after double hydraulic potions your 4th year)
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Bacon Taco posted:The first rule of Engineering Wizard School is don't talk about Engineering Wizard School. well poo poo then, cuz homeslice is in trouble: Neutrino posted:This is civil engineering 101and is the reason why engineers have to get a degree and licensure to practice and yes, I have both.
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According to every engineer I've ever met in the field they are all capable of doing any job better than you. Therefore I can't see his solution not working.
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The people who did the planning/work on that street could have easily hosed up. If everybody in the world had the appropriate competence in their jobs and never cut corners, this thread wouldn't exist
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JoelJoel posted:According to every engineer I've ever met in the field they are all capable of doing any job better than you. Therefore I can't see his solution not working. Nuetrino sounds like all of those "less than 5 years ago I was still in school, so my knowledge is current" insufferable shits that join a team and have ideas to "fix everything, if you olds would just listen!"
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flosofl posted:Nuetrino sounds like all of those "less than 5 years ago I was still in school, so my knowledge is current" insufferable shits that join a team and have ideas to "fix everything, if you olds would just listen!" I'm an engineer and I have to admit that I have zero idea how to go about fixing that issue, if indeed it needs to be fixed. I have zero experience with asphalt, bridges, trains, roads, or concrete. And nothing in my field is current, it's all from the 60s and 70s (or earlier).
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Olothreutes posted:I'm an engineer and I have to admit that I have zero idea how to go about fixing that issue, if indeed it needs to be fixed. I have zero experience with asphalt, bridges, trains, roads, or concrete. Oh, I'm not a civil engineer either, but diagnosing a problem and offering an authoritative solution from incomplete information, like crappy jpegs, is douchebaggery that spans many technical fields. I've seen it before, and I'll see it again.
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According to the website, the 11'8 bridge is a good 100 years old. That would explain why it doesn't conform to regulations.
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Clearly they should just install an Einstein-Rosen bridge to solve this problem
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chitoryu12 posted:According to the website, the 11'8 bridge is a good 100 years old. That would explain why it doesn't conform to regulations. Earlier in the thread someone mentioned that it was intentionally built as it is in order to keep mass transit from being able to reach the other side of the city so as to prevent "undesirables" from living on the right side of the tracks. I have no idea if this is true or not.
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In my engineering opinion, the city should take the sewer pipeline and completely rethink it. Run it up and over the railroad tracks in a artistically-inspired parabola and use a huge pump to make the sewage flow up through the pipe and over to the other side. Make it out of mirror-finished stainless steel with plexiglass windows to let light through, call it the Arc de Merde (Arch of poo poo) and voila! an instant tourist attraction for the hoi polloi. With the roadway thus cleared, Durham can dig out the trench to their heart's delight. Everyone wins.
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 Just a reminder this person took out this bridge because she didn't know how many pounds 6 tons was, and didn't know how to back up the truck. The problem isn't this bridge or that bridge. You can't engineer a solution to severe human stupidity out of steel and asphalt.
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Powershift posted:
Love all the townies hanging out to check out that thar crashed truck with zero concern for the stability of the bridge or the vehicle. Edit: and I'm a software engineer IN TRUCKING! Ornamental Dingbat fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Nov 8, 2016 |
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Powershift posted:The problem isn't this bridge or that bridge. You can't engineer a solution to severe human stupidity out of steel and asphalt. The obvious drawback with idiot proofing anything is cash money. But the comical underpass example is a often used example in administrative vs engineering solutions. Signage is an administrative solution and subject to misinterpretation due to missing it, being terminally dumb, etc. Replacing the underpass with an overpass that allows all road and rail traffic through without any danger is possible and expensive.
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zedprime posted:Well you can overengineer anything to nearly any risk percent as you want, and I don't mean just fudging the numbers. For example with road underpasses going underneath existing infrastructure, you can fill it in and make the road an overpass because rail cargo has fairly specific height. Really it just all comes down to money. There's not really any risk to life, can-opening a truck just costs a bit of money to repair things. So sure, you could build an overpass instead. Is it actually worthwhile (compared with just adding more signage) to save $X/year in damage?
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why don't they just shrink the trucks
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Replace the sample height barrier with a tempered sharp wedge and pre-peel the morons.
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Just install an ED-209 at the bridge to shoot the drivers of any overheight trucks, duh. This solution would be obvious to anyone who has a degree in roboengineering like I do.
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You're all wrong about this. Based on my extensive experience in Euro Truck SImulator, the solution is to drive the truck really, really fast and jump the railway using the embankment as a ramp instead of taking the underpass. Really, it's trivially easy and I'm amazed the city authorities have overlooked it for so long.
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Add a catapult for trucks with speed limiters.
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So what solutions are there to the 11-8 bridge? Let's talk about those some more.
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they should adjust the phase of the bridge so it's corporeal to trains but not to trucks boom problem solved
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they should build another bridge on top of the railway bridge, and make this one 2 inches too short for trains
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add a wedge to the front of the bridge that squeezes trucks down til they can fit under it.
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use the trains to carry the trucks and leave the roads for cyclists and cars
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honestly the easiest solution is to build up the road and make it a flat crossing, not an overpass. Admittedly that probably brings in all sorts of traffic control and timing issues, and costs more than dragging trucks out from under the bridge and fining the idiot driving though, but it is more or less a one off cost if you were really determined to solve it. I'd guess that it's been considered and rejected for one reason or another though.
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JoelJoel posted:So what solutions are there to the 11-8 bridge? Let's talk about those some more. Add a treadmill before the bridge
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bend posted:honestly the easiest solution is to build up the road and make it a flat crossing, not an overpass. Admittedly that probably brings in all sorts of traffic control and timing issues, and costs more than dragging trucks out from under the bridge and fining the idiot driving though, but it is more or less a one off cost if you were really determined to solve it. But then you get idiots stopping their trucks across the tracks.
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bend posted:honestly the easiest solution is to build up the road and make it a flat crossing, not an overpass. Admittedly that probably brings in all sorts of traffic control and timing issues, and costs more than dragging trucks out from under the bridge and fining the idiot driving though, but it is more or less a one off cost if you were really determined to solve it. Now instead of idiots driving trucks under the bridge and causing a little bit of easily-fixed property damage, you have idiots driving across the tracks and getting people killed. Replacing a grade-separated crossing with an at-grade one is literally going backwards.
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