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Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

BONGHITZ posted:

just use the nukes

Can't shoot down an ICBM!

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Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Sheep-Goats posted:

It hasn't been tested ever really but it's almost certain that there is no such thing as a dogfight any more, if you get seen you get a missile up your rear end and there's no way to dodge a modern anti air missile. However the last time there were possible dogfights having better visibility was one of the most important things about your aircraft as a lot of scenarios lead to this pattern of your plane and your opponent's plane trying to go straight to into the air to get higher than the other one. At some point no jet can sustain going straight up any more and tips back toward earth and at this point you really want to be able to see your opponent so you can either plan for a round two if he's higher than you by twisting into a position that forces that or else come down on top of him so you can shoot at him if you're higher. There are probably other reasons too but feedback from pilots is going to involve visibility pretty often.

Isn't this the exact same thing they said about the F4 and probably some other planes only to find out that due to convoluted rules of engagement dogfights weren't only happening but common?

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Sheep-Goats posted:

It hasn't been tested ever really but it's almost certain that there is no such thing as a dogfight any more, if you get seen you get a missile up your rear end and there's no way to dodge a modern anti air missile. However the last time there were possible dogfights having better visibility was one of the most important things about your aircraft as a lot of scenarios lead to this pattern of your plane and your opponent's plane trying to go straight to into the air to get higher than the other one. At some point no jet can sustain going straight up any more and tips back toward earth and at this point you really want to be able to see your opponent so you can either plan for a round two if he's higher than you by twisting into a position that forces that or else come down on top of him so you can shoot at him if you're higher. There are probably other reasons too but feedback from pilots is going to involve visibility pretty often.

Actual dogfights in an open war against relative peers aren't super likely, but neither is that scenario to begin with. The rules of engagement for most modern conflicts don't actually involve fighter jets launching missiles from beyond visual range at anything that pops up on radar. A lot of the time pilots are needing to visually assess/confirm situations before they'd consider engaging, and you want maximum visibility for that. It also just helps with general navigation and situational awareness- even large commercial airliners that can be flown entirely with instruments have their cockpit windows and noses designed to maximize field of view, and I'd imagine there a lot of occasions where it would be very useful for a fighter jet in a combat zone to know at a glance exactly what is happening underneath them.

LGD fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Nov 8, 2016

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Ceciltron posted:

Can't shoot down an ICBM!

I think he means use the nukes as anti air.

Which to be fair they would make a fairly effective multi role option.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

The F-35 has the same system because it's cockpit visibility is poo poo thanks to the need for a big rear end vtol fan housing behind the cockpit even on the non vtol versions. Of course, the 360 degree camera helmet is so heavy it snaps your neck when you eject from the plane.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Nanomashoes posted:

The F-35 has the same system because it's cockpit visibility is poo poo thanks to the need for a big rear end vtol fan housing behind the cockpit even on the non vtol versions. Of course, the 360 degree camera helmet is so heavy it snaps your neck when you eject from the plane.

F-35 memes are funny but lets not pretend that the J-20 is comparable in a good way

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Nanomashoes posted:

The F-35 has the same system because it's cockpit visibility is poo poo thanks to the need for a big rear end vtol fan housing behind the cockpit even on the non vtol versions. Of course, the 360 degree camera helmet is so heavy it snaps your neck when you eject from the plane.

Isn't the whole point that there's cameras all over it so you don't need cockpit visibility?

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Outrail posted:

Isn't the whole point that there's cameras all over it so you don't need cockpit visibility?

The only point of the F-35 and everything attached to it is to pad the right people's wallets.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
The F-35 is actually a clever ruse to convince china to design The Worst Plane Ever as a kind of pathetic mockery of The Worst Plane Ever.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

This is not the worst plane in the world, it is only a tribute.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Outrail posted:

Isn't the whole point that there's cameras all over it so you don't need cockpit visibility?

That's the incredibly expensive workaround for having poo poo cockpit visibility. Installing a bunch of cameras and a high tech vision system in your plane drives the price up, makes it take longer to develop, and lines the Lockheed Martin exec's pockets with another cool billion or two.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
It's the small things in China life that make the day a little brighter. I saw my ex-girlfriend on Tantan. She was using the same English name she complained about wanting to change the whole time I knew her, but here it is a year later and she's still using it. I guess that "rich" guy that promised to take her abroad that she went for after me didn't work. I swiped right just to see if she would try to contact me again. One more plunge and then ghosting her seems like a good idea that could never have any problems ever.

In the past month I have also seen some of our customers or business contacts on there and every time I nearly drop my phone because I feel like I am getting caught doing something wrong, even though I know they would never mention it to me or my boss IRL. I have never swiped left so quickly.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Somewhere in China there's a psychology Ph.D with an enormous cork board in their office covered in printouts of this thread connected by a spiderweb of yarn, all under the frantically scrawled title: "Can Foreigners Feel Shame???"

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

c-spam cannot afford



Ceciltron posted:

Can't shoot down an ICBM!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


This old man, Chaiman Xi,
Wants to purge the PRC;
Gimcrack values lack, foreigners displease,
Blame it on the Japanese.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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simplefish posted:

This old man, Chaiman Xi,
Wants to purge the PRC;
Gimcrack values lack, foreigners displease,
Blame it on the Japanese.

whoa

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

simplefish posted:

This old man, Chaiman Xi,
Wants to purge the PRC;
Gimcrack values lack, foreigners displease,
Blame it on the Japanese.

:vince:

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

KiteAuraan posted:

Based on Korean items on the menu and what I hear being yelled from the kitchen, I estimate 90% of Japanese restaurants in Phoenix are run by Koreans.

The running joke is, that no ethnical restaurant is ever run by the nationality that it advertizes.

Japanese restaurant? Koreans.
Italian restaurant? Egyptians.
Greek restaurant? Turks.
Turkish restaurant? Syrians.
French restaurant? Spaniards.

A good one that I saw myself: Mexican restaurant? Pakistanis. That one was actually pretty tasty.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

simplefish posted:

This old man, Chaiman Xi,
Wants to purge the PRC;
Gimcrack values lack, foreigners displease,
Blame it on the Japanese.

:bisonyes:

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

JaucheCharly posted:

The running joke is, that no ethnical restaurant is ever run by the nationality that it advertizes.

Japanese restaurant? Koreans.
Italian restaurant? Egyptians.
Greek restaurant? Turks.
Turkish restaurant? Syrians.
French restaurant? Spaniards.

A good one that I saw myself: Mexican restaurant? Pakistanis. That one was actually pretty tasty.

It is a well known non-secret in my home city that all the best Sushi bars are Vietnamese-run.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


TGA please repost stories about the people confused about how to know if you should wear a coat outside or not

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Chinese man decides to move to Australia after 50 years of living in Shanghai. He buys a small piece of land near Mt Isa.

A few days after moving in, the friendly Aussie neighbour decides to go across and welcome the new guy to the region . He goes next door but on his way up the drive-way he sees the Chinese man running around his front yard chasing about 10 hens . Not wanting to interrupt these 'Chinese customs', he decides to put the welcome on hold for the day.

The next day, he decides to try again, but just as he is about to knock on the front door, he looks through the window and sees the Chinese man urinate into a glass and then drink it. Not wanting to interrupt another 'Chinese custom', he decides to put the welcome on hold for yet another day.

A day later he decides to give it one last go, but on his way next door, he sees the Chinese man leading a bull down the drive-way, pause, and then put his head next to the bull's bum. The Aussie bloke can't handle this, so he goes up to the Chinese man and says , "Jeez Mate, what the hell is it with your Chinese customs? I come over to welcome you to the neighborhood, and see you running around the yard after hens. The next day you are pissing in a glass and drinking it, and then today you have your head so close to that bull's bum, it could just about poo poo on you."

The Chinese man is very taken back and says, "Sorry mate, you no understand, these no Chinese customs I doing, these Australian Customs." "What do you mean mate," says the Aussie. "Those aren't Australian customs."

"Yes they are, man at travel agent tell me," replied the Chinese man. "He say to become true Australian, I learn chase chicks, drink piss, and listen to bull poo poo."

Andorra
Dec 12, 2012

simplefish posted:

This old man, Chaiman Xi,
Wants to purge the PRC;
Gimcrack values lack, foreigners displease,
Blame it on the Japanese.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

JaucheCharly posted:



A good one that I saw myself: Mexican restaurant? Pakistanis. That one was actually pretty tasty.

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
I'm the old woman in line for the cashier at the supermarket that holds up the line while she unloads every disgusting used tissue from her big purse onto the counter and then tries to leave them there for the people behind her to deal with (or the cashier). I'm the same woman who, without looking, tossed her empty shopping basket behind her at the people in line as if they didn't exist, and then got angry when the foreigner kicked it back at her and it hit her in the calves. I am the same old lady who got even more annoyed with the foreigner, who was standing behind her, when he used a plastic bag to brush away all her nasty tissues onto her feet while she was trying to pay. I'm still this old bitch who got shouted at by the cashier for complaining the shopping bag couldn't hold the box of milk and all the cookies she bought, and got more angry when she lost face by being shown that the box of milk has its own handle and the cookies go into the bag, since I obviously don't know how to put things in a bag. I'm the same woman that whined that she now has to use two hands to carry the stuff home.

Kill the old.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I'm the cashier who poured raw chicken liquids all over the checkout and then rubs your items through all the liquid. If I feel like a real go-getter today I might use the never washed rag behind the counter to halfheartedly wipe some of the salmonella around before I put all your stuff in it and also make sure my hands are covered with as much chicken blood as possible.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I'm the old woman who took a poo poo in the squatter with no soap and then dug through every piece of meat at the open butcher counter with my bare hands

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
LOL, that sounds like one heck of a good market. The cashiers at the one I usually go to are pretty good about wiping wets and slimes off the counter, even though the rag is still going to be nasty and covered in way too much bacteria to be doing anything good.

I forgot the typical one:
I'm the person in line, usually old, that becomes super impatient and on-edge when the person in front of me doesn't immediately move forward 5cm when given the chance, or doesn't immediately unload everything in their basket on the 3cm of space available on the counter.
I'm also the person that actually nudges or puts hands on your back to try to force you to move or go into action because their nerves are so frazzled and they are in such a rush to go nowhere that can't not do it.

I've had old people try to cut in front of me and unload their poo poo on the counter because I wasn't putting mine up due to no room to do so. They still think it's 1970 and every man for himself. People are aggro as hell in the supermarket and it's one of those things that shouldn't have to be as obnoxious as it has to be, but it is. Okay, that explains most of China.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I usually don't even move forward because I like annoying those guys.

In Korea they had self checkout at the store I shopped at the most, which was nice since it was way faster. Occasionally olds would come up and start piling their poo poo on it while I was in the middle of checking out. This, of course, would gently caress up the scale trying to keep you from stealing anything so the machine would stop working. I just started casually shoving all their crap onto the floor while they screamed at me, it was immensely satisfying. Especially when I'd tell them to wait their turn, they'd keep at it, and then the attendant would come over and force them back into the line. They'd started putting up those metal bars they have at airport security and stuff to keep people in lines and it was a constant struggle between employees trying to keep the customers within the bars and the olds trying to break from the jail of behaving decently to others.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Grand Fromage posted:

I usually don't even move forward because I like annoying those guys.

In Korea they had self checkout at the store I shopped at the most, which was nice since it was way faster. Occasionally olds would come up and start piling their poo poo on it while I was in the middle of checking out. This, of course, would gently caress up the scale trying to keep you from stealing anything so the machine would stop working. I just started casually shoving all their crap onto the floor while they screamed at me, it was immensely satisfying. Especially when I'd tell them to wait their turn, they'd keep at it, and then the attendant would come over and force them back into the line. They'd started putting up those metal bars they have at airport security and stuff to keep people in lines and it was a constant struggle between employees trying to keep the customers within the bars and the olds trying to break from the jail of behaving decently to others.

you know, poo poo like this, I want to say "Eh, Korea will be ok once all these old assholes die out in about 20 years or so" but I know it won't be because the younger generations are just as bad

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


People under 30 were pretty normal and okay. Question is do they change when they get older or is what goes on with the olds mainly because they grew up in pits of garbage.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Grand Fromage posted:

People under 30 were pretty normal and okay. Question is do they change when they get older or is what goes on with the olds mainly because they grew up in pits of garbage.

I think it's being poo poo on by higher ups for 30 years that makes you relish the moment when you can poo poo on someone lower than you, which being older automatically makes you qualified to do

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

Blistex posted:

He was telling me that he used less than a 10th the natural gas to heat his new home than he needed to heat his old one, and since he followed US building codes, he had no issues with moisture/mold which is a big issue in a lot of Korean homes and apartments.

House pictured here.


I was packing up for a vacation from Korea to Indonesia one winter and it was the day before I left. Despite EPIK promising that my city's MOE would give us double housing we lived in a shoe box so our suitcases were set flush against the wall and doubled as shelving. I pulled the first suitcase only to discover a massive growth of black mold in the shape of the suitcase. A quick call to my landlord revealed that the apartment had mold problems under the previous tenant. He further claimed that a full cleaning and refurnishing was done prior to my arrival, but I think he just papered over the mold, because the damage was so extensive that I can only fathom it was already growing under the wallpaper when we moved in. I still had to spend another six months in that apartment and both my wife's school and mine refused to help with moving costs.

At my current job in China there are employees living in school housing where the mold has completely overtaken the walls and cannot be removed without cutting the entire floor plus the units above and below. Upon seeing the horrendous damage discovered by his foreign tenant the landlord simply shrugged and said that's how things are.

Koramei posted:

Old style Korean houses are fine for winter, I imagine the same is true for northern China and... pretty much everywhere with cold winters. People aren't idiots about climate when they have thousands of years to come up with solutions. I went to the Jeonju traditional village during winter and went in a house with the underfloor heating lit, can attest it works great.

It just got messed up in the transition to modernity.


also that bus story actually makes me mad. there comes a point not recklessly endangering a bunch of 5 year olds should be more important than how much face you save even for the most self absorbed old man

I had single pane windows in my apartment in Hokkaido. There is a pan-Asian phenomenon of simply ignoring how heat actually moves around the universe. Japan isn't the biggest offender, but since it happens there too I'm not sure how much of it has to do with a transition to modernity. I spend most of my thermal energy unit in my Physical Science class trying to explain why opening windows in the middle of winter is a dumb idea, even if it didn't make the class smell like whatever poo poo is in the pollution outside.

Grand Fromage posted:

Mine looked the same. A glass cutter would be vaguely professional. The guy at my place just took out a wrench and smashed a hole.

The cable guy in Korea asked for mayo so he lube up wire before he pulled it through the wall.

peanut posted:

Mauritania (and many other places people are desperate to gtfo of) is getting into the lucrative skype dating scam industry.
http://romancescamsnow.com/scammer-albums-lists/

Which Chinagoon had the coworker who was totally worried about her Nigerian prince?

Bringmyfishback, but she's got a new user name. Her private English lesson student was constantly being ripped off by Nigerans asking for money in the name of christ.

Edit: I guess it was Great Autismo too.

Let us English fucked around with this message at 10:29 on Nov 8, 2016

Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
http://www.thatsmags.com/shenzhen/post/16216/he-s-back-aggressive-foreign-beggar-harasses-couple-on-shenzhen-metro

quote:

A Brazilian couple was left shaken after an agressive foreign beggar harassed them near the shops outside the Che Gong Miao metro station around 2pm in Shenzhen today. Reports of the man, identified as either Miguel or Eric, have been circulating for more than a year.

"He looked like he was on drugs. First, he just approached me and started to talk into my ear very close. I tried to get away from him and see who it was,” said Ricardo, a 2-year resident of Shenzhen and pilot for a shipping company. Ricardo asked that his last name not be used for this article.

“He pushed me with his body, I’m 180cm and he was about 190cm. He’s a tall guy. He was hanging over me and pushing me on the side," Ricardo said.

LOL, I forgot about this dude. I swear I've seen him before, he looks so familiar.

ladron posted:

you know, poo poo like this, I want to say "Eh, Korea will be ok once all these old assholes die out in about 20 years or so" but I know it won't be because the younger generations are just as bad
I think this every time I see these lovely grandparents or encounter most old people here. They are raising their one or two grandchildren full-time and, even though the kids will grow out of many of the bad habits they learn from these awful people, some of those things will permanently remain in their actions for the rest of their lives no matter where they go. It's a continuation of garbage that will hold the people back and there's nothing to be done about it.

Edit: I always take some pleasure in knowing my boss feels exactly the same as I do about old people in this country, and she's even said that common quote "It's not that old people are bad, but bad people became old" several times. I can always gripe to her about the constant obnoxious wrinkled buttholes in the elevators when I come up to work and she'll have her own stories.

Haier fucked around with this message at 11:02 on Nov 8, 2016

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
And all the good people got killed or left this country.

So the saying goes.

Things are better just incrementally.

Vladimir Poutine
Aug 13, 2012
:madmax:
This guy is my spirit animal

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
I've heard the whole "leave the windows open when it's cold" story a few times in this thread. Has anyone gotten a solid answer before?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


nickmeister posted:

I've heard the whole "leave the windows open when it's cold" story a few times in this thread. Has anyone gotten a solid answer before?

Solid? No. Answers I've gotten:

1) In Korea it was a government mandate in like the 60s because the old heating systems produced a bunch of carbon monoxide and were killing people every winter. People have forgotten this and continue to do it even though they aren't burning coal at home anymore. This is the only not stupid explanation I'm aware of.
2) Grandma told me to.
3) If you close the windows you'll suffocate.
4) Windows block qi and make you sick.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

nickmeister posted:

I've heard the whole "leave the windows open when it's cold" story a few times in this thread. Has anyone gotten a solid answer before?

This is the actual reason in Korea, so probably similar in China/Japan.

Back in the days when they used to heat with a carbon-monoxide spewing coal/natural gas units in every room, they would have to leave the windows open a crack to keep from being killed during the night. That tradition has been held over even thought most places are being heated with electric/radiant floor/forced air heating. Every classroom in the Korean/Chinese hight schools I have taught at have cracked the thermostats up to "11" and left the windows open a few inches. So you have students near the window who are wearing their full winter gear and freezing, and students far away from the windows who are stripped down to their t-shits and are nearly passing out from the heat. The current explanation in both countries is. . . "got to have fresh air to keep the students healthy".

Let us English posted:

There is a pan-Asian phenomenon of simply ignoring how heat actually moves around the universe.

This is pretty spot on.

Blistex fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Nov 8, 2016

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Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan
So you trust the heating system to NOW not produce CO? I dunno....

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