Roque11 posted:

All these implications of people going to WWE are so hilarious. These wrestlers have the choice between New Japan and WWE. New Japan is where everybody wants to be and that's what they pattern their ring styles after. Plus, they can make more money, not have to deal with politics and not have to be on the road non-stop.

With ROH you have a promotion owned by a corporation that has a ton more money than WWE. Sinclair can buy and sell WWE three times over if they wanted to.

With the money wrestlers can make in ROH and New Japan and WWE only offering peanuts WWE doesn't stand a chance.

A guy like ACH fits New Japan like a glove much like Elgin. That's what his long term future is along with indies in between, which would include Fred Garvin's company. He also gets to be seen on Flo.

Roque11 posted:

All these implications of people going to WWE are so hilarious. These wrestlers have the choice between New Japan and WWE. New Japan is where everybody wants to be and that's what they pattern their ring styles after. Plus, they can make more money, not have to deal with politics and not have to be on the road non-stop.

With TNA you have a promotion owned by a corporation that has a ton more money than WWE. Panda Energy can buy and sell WWE three times over if they wanted to.

With the money wrestlers can make in TNA and New Japan and WWE only offering peanuts WWE doesn't stand a chance.

yea ok posted:

its unhealthy to fuel gimmicks

rovert posted:

Steve Corino is at the WWE Performance Center as a guest coach this week.

Roque11 posted:

With ROH you have a promotion owned by a corporation that has a ton more money than WWE. Sinclair can buy and sell WWE three times over if they wanted to.

coconono posted:

coconono posted:

Sinclair couldn't bring the kind of money WWE throws around if it wanted to. Not without massive changes to their company structure.

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Even if Sinclair's that well off it doesn't make a difference, because they practically have to be begged into spending any of it on ROH.

Aye Doc posted:

maybe if Delirious weren't killing the company with his bigotry, Sinclair would find it easier to invest

Aye Doc posted:

maybe if Delirious weren't killing the company with his bigotry, Sinclair would find it easier to invest

Dave posted:

It’s going to be very interesting because most of the key players in the promotion are under one-year contracts that would expire at or around 12/31, including The Young Bucks, Bobby Fish, Kyle O’Reilly, Jay Lethal, Ray Rowe, Hanson, Kenny King, Steve Corino and B.J. Whitmer. The question becomes which on those list would have viable alternatives. It’s a weird situation because of the New Japan relationship. Some of the talent likes the ROH/New Japan mix because they get the Japanese bookings, although Michael Elgin for one has a New Japan contract and works ROH between tours and through New Japan, while the names on the aforementioned list work New Japan through ROH. Nobody knows how much of a factor TNA would be, particularly since the one person in TNA most knowledgeable about ROH and who pushed to sign ROH guys, David Lagana (who used to work for ROH), is no longer with TNA. At least some would be good additions for NXT, but the question is would WWE pay the same or more of what key guys make in ROH and New Japan combined, plus there is far more freedom in these companies to do what you want and wrestle how you want than there would be in WWE.

Of course, if you hit it big in WWE, like many former ROH guys like Owens, Zayn and Rollins, you’re in a completely different stratosphere, but NXT contracts are generally the same or substantially less than the key ROH deals, depending on the person, and that’s not even figuring the New Japan money and the merchandise money (since ROH talent keep a far higher percentage of merchandise money than WWE talent does, although obviously if you’re pushed on WWE television, the difference makes that merch money night and day in favor of WWE). However, anyone of the names on this list, if WWE truly wants them, they can get them because they can afford to pay much more if they want them, and WWE will constantly need new real talent for its NXT tours when the current headliners move up.

coconono posted:

I thought WWE wanted nothing to do with ROH talents since that Kevin Steen figure debacle.

Durk Hendrunkqs posted:

Not with talent but possible business relationship. There was a time they were using ROH footage in documentaries and WWE.com articles a few years ago. Now they aren't doing it at all.

coconono posted:

I thought WWE wanted nothing to do with ROH talents since that Kevin Steen figure debacle.

quote:

As we have been discussing over the last several weeks on different PWInsider.com Elite audio shows, a number of Ring of Honor contracts will be coming up over the next several months including The Young Bucks, Jay Lethal, War Machine, Kyle O'Reilly and Bobby Fish. The company is in the midst of negotating a number of new deals currently.

Veda Scott has departed Ring of Honor, which is somewhat surprising given that she broke into the business at their school in Bristol, PA and worked her way up from ring crew to a role as a manager and performer in the Women of Honor division. We are told that she gave the company notice last week that she was leaving and is already finished here.

It is also interesting to note that Lio Rush, who is under contract here until early 2017, is solicting indy bookings for the first three months of that year.

rovert posted:

lol ROH http://www.wwe.com/videos/steve-corino-on-what-makes-the-wwe-performance-center-wrestling-heaven

KungFu Grip posted:

That figure still hasn't come out yet as far as I know and WWE has released like 4 since he started in NXT.

Roque11 posted:

This is not even a big deal. So Steve Corino did a guest trainer role at the performance center. Whoopty do! They have old wrestlers do the guest trainer gig all the time. Hell, Quack showed up this year and he did a .com interview.

Hace posted:

Make Roque11 a mod

rovert posted:

https://twitter.com/Windupsoup/status/797936285465743360