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Cumslut1895 posted:I think Americans just lost the ability to criticize chinar. we have the hottest first lady in history, we win
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Bum the Sad posted:I can't wait for Trump to call him a bitch and tell him to go gently caress himself. More like they become pussy grabbing buddies
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Away all Goats posted:More like they become pussy grabbing buddies trump knows the secret to building lasting chinese business relations
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Bum the Sad posted:I can't wait for Trump to call him a bitch and tell him to go gently caress himself. Edit: Except the penises are nuclear missiles. Or maybe it's the other way around, I'm not sure.
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Cumslut1895 posted:I think Americans just lost the ability to criticize chinar. Yea, but they won the ability to bomb them for insulting the president's hair or something like that.
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Nov 9, 2016 09:39
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My Chinese friends are all like "I don't really pay attention to politics. Why are you upset?" Like Caberham said, it's starting to sink in... and it doesn't feel good. Watching the markets crash isn't good either. LMAO
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Nov 9, 2016 09:44
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caberham posted:I tried to make a few jokes here and there but now it's sinking in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTSQozWP-rM It was all true
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Fauxtool posted:we have the hottest first lady in history, we win Denmark took this one sorry.
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Guys, look at the bright side, a trade war with China will tank their economy meaning the Comunists will lose their control over the country. At that point best China will takeover the mainland and will bring democracy and freedom. Worst case scenario is a return to the warlord era but in that case Tibet, East Turkestan and Hong Kong will be indipendent.
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an independent HK would be pretty great. I dont even know if taiwan wants all of china. Maybe just take the bottom half with the good weather and port cities.
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I Love Annie May posted:Guys, look at the bright side, a trade war with China will tank their economy meaning the Comunists will lose their control over the country. At that point best China will takeover the mainland and will bring democracy and freedom. Trade war is certainly the best case scenario, but I also worry that Xi Jinping and his cronies will eat Trump for breakfast, I mean, dealing with loud mouthed billionaires is their specialty.
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fish and chips and dip posted:Trade war is certainly the best case scenario, but I also worry that Xi Jinping and his cronies will eat Trump for breakfast, I mean, dealing with loud mouthed billionaires is their specialty. they have leverage on them usually, like the lives of their family
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ladron posted:1000 rupees is like $15, so that must have been one hell of a sack This is what 1billion dollars looks like - 10 million $100 bills stacked on 12 standard pallets:  Definitely one hell of a sack.
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Haier posted:"It's not that old people are bad, but bad people became old" The first Chinese guy I really knew was my grandpa's neighbor. Real nice guy, must be pushing 100 years old now. Grew up on the Yangtze in the '30s but he got out along with... some of his family during WWII. Settled in LA and had to deal with anti-Japanese racism because honkey can't tell the difference. This really bugged him because he hated the Japanese too. Still does as far as I know, but that's the only mainlander thing about the guy. Speaks whatever dialect they spoke on the Yangtze in the '30s with his wife and worked for an aerospace firm as some kind of engineer. Built his house himself (from a Sears kit, I think) and has lived in it and maintained it since then. Had like 4 kids. One's a computer engineer, another's a coach (also tall as all gently caress). Not sure what my point is other than that dude got out of China before he could get all brainfucked by the chaos and Mao's stuff. Cool dude. Ran marathons as late as age 96. Thanks for reading my China-by-proxy story
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I Love Annie May posted:Guys, look at the bright side, a trade war with China will tank their economy meaning the Comunists will lose their control over the country. At that point best China will takeover the mainland and will bring democracy and freedom. Worst case is CCP testing out those fancy new upgraded MIRVs on the way out. poo poo is gonna get bad.
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Let us English posted:Worst case is CCP testing out those fancy new upgraded MIRVs on the way out. poo poo is gonna get bad. Most of them are probably made out of crushed seashells and golf balls.
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Sitting here in Taipei I do hope the mainland doesn't take this opportunity to gently caress things up.
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Effective-Disorder posted:"gently caress you! You can't tell me what to do, I'm a Trump supporter!" From a Trump thread. China and USA will enjoy much cultural friendship and sharing.
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Pirate Radar posted:Sitting here in Taipei I do hope the mainland doesn't take this opportunity to gently caress things up. They need opportunity?
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Pirate Radar posted:Sitting here in Taipei I do hope the mainland doesn't take this opportunity to gently caress things up. http://i.imgur.com/zqAoTBN.jpg Kinda NSFW underboobs
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Re: Crazy India money hat trick Haier, why did the people hoard the money in the smaller denominations? Why couldn't they just have changed it into larger bills before this whole thing to make their own lives easier without a literal pile of money laying around?
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Bubblyblubber posted:Re: Crazy India money hat trick I don't think there are larger bills.
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Let us English posted:For a foreigner: I you test positive in a raid you may or may not be charged with anything, it depends on why the raid was run and how politically strict the city is. If you get caught holding less than 20g you'll do 10-days in jail and be given a week to leave the country. If you have more than 20g your hosed. Way loving behind, but isn't it hard to have a melody when the meaning of the lyrics depend on the inflection of the words? Is that why it sounds so loving crazy to my ears?
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ElGroucho posted:Way loving behind, but isn't it hard to have a melody when the meaning of the lyrics depend on the inflection of the words? Is that why it sounds so loving crazy to my ears? I've always liked the sound of this song, which manages to be lyrical without being all cat rape screechy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn308pbgUqc
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beep-beep car is go posted:I don't think there are larger bills. Oh. Oooooh. drat India, that's cold. Well played.
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Bubblyblubber posted:Re: Crazy India money hat trick 500 and 1000 were the biggest bills, so that's what people hoarding money will hold onto. They have no way to change them legally at the banks even before this happened, unless they want to break one bill at a time, and the funny thing is that breaking a 1000 rupee note in India is about the same "ugh" factor as using a 100 GPB/EURO/USD note to buy a pack of chewing gum. So they sit on these huge bills and never spend them, waiting for retirement or trying to use the money to buy a house or car or something through some corrupt agency (with included bribe price) so they don't draw attention to themselves. The smaller notes are 100, 50 20, 10, 5, if I recall correctly. Banks and businesses want gladly trade their 1000 notes for something smaller because nobody wants to break one for anything less than a purchase worth several hundred. India is still a very cash-centric society, so it's very easy for people to simply collect cash and not declare it at all for taxes, because you could earn 10,000 but write down 2000 instead, or just not write anything at all. The real cheaters would put everything into big bills (500, 1000) and then stuff them somewhere and let it amass. The big-timers and long-term tax-evaders and thieves can very easily be sitting on several million rupees that are undeclared and/or stolen, or bribes, or whatever. The rich in India can often be disgustingly rich compared to the other local people, and still be considered rich if they go abroad. Then there are families that are just above and beyond insanely rich, and most of them go that way through inheritance or corruption. Politicians are huge crooks and usually have ties to local mafias or criminal enterprises. Modi's money scheme is really hitting those people hard. As of tonight he declared 500s and 1000 notes to be utterly useless as cash tender. Even while I was living there, at any given moment I had like 30k rupees in my closet, or 10k in my wallet, which is nothing for an American, but a lot for an Indian. Someone with a college degree is making Rs. 30-60k per month wages, and the lucky guys are making up to 100k per month. A raise of just 1000 per month is like a big deal for a lot of these people. Then when it comes time to apply for school or do something that needs an approval stamp, the assholes in charge demand several thousand rupee bribes or else they will lose the applications or make things take forever. Indians hate that this has become so common and costs so much, so they are celebrating that these buttholes are losing their ill-gained retirement funds right before their eyes. Imagine how hard it is for people who make even less money per month/year and still are forced to pay these "bribes." This is a big "gently caress you" to all of the red-tape. Anyway, a lot of corruption money is going to disappear and a lot of the smaller and medium crooks, and some big organizations, business, and gangs are all going to feel it and it's going to be wonderful. Indians have been waiting decades for something like this and the average Indian (the law abiding ones) are stoked as hell on this, even if it's going to be a pain in the as until the new notes come out.
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ElGroucho posted:Way loving behind, but isn't it hard to have a melody when the meaning of the lyrics depend on the inflection of the words? Is that why it sounds so loving crazy to my ears? To make an analogy, English words have a fairly fixed rhythmic pattern. While we can vary tone any way we like we cannot vary rhythm. Of course sometimes we do for the sake of a song but this sounds off and is generally avoided, instead different word choices are made so that the natural rhythm of the words interacts pleasantly with the song. In a tonal langue then you can still have a melody in two ways 1) The "easy" way is to just modulate from where the words are naturally, this distorts everything a bit but isn't unintelligible. Don't forget that in regular speech a lot of tones get flattened out anyway and context rules the roost. Still, this is distortion and is used sparingly. 2) You can have the tone pattern, which forms simple natural melody of lows, highs, and sounds in transit between low and high in various ways match up with the instrumental melody in some pleasing way. You do this by choosing words that match your musical goals. An example from poetry in English is the line from Lear: Howl, howl, howl, howl! O! you are men of stones The first five syllables are all stressed leading to a heavy, regular rhythm, embodying sadness. Happy lines are generally made of longer words with many unstressed syllables so that things pitter patter along. The equivalent effect in tonal languages is generally a series of words all in the low tone. A monotone base sound. Note the rhythm could be whatever. This leads generally to some confusion about which language is "better" than the other at melody vs rhythm. English offers more choice to what your lyrical melody is but limits rhythmic options, tonal langues generally do the opposite. The thing is though that without some rules or conventions it's difficult to do anything interesting -- being able to choose any melody in a sense makes choosing the melody less artful or interesting, being able to choose any rhythm the same. As such you can really stun with rhythm in English in a way that you can't in Chinese, and you can really stun with melody in Chinese in a way you can't in English. Both ideas exist in both langues, are emphasized in poetry and song more than in regular speech, but the traditional king of musicality to English language is interesting rhythm, whereas in Chinese it is interesting melody, all precisely because of the more restrictive environments of each in those languages.
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Man this Indian currency business is fascinating. You guys got any sites with more stories about what's happening to people?
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bug chaser chaser posted:Man this Indian currency business is fascinating. You guys got any sites with more stories about what's happening to people? https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/5c195e/do_you_guys_know_any_people_hoarding_lots_of/ heres some stories.
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hahahaha gently caress https://twitter.com/PTI_News/status/796378793208225793
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:hahahaha gently caress  Can you imagine Mexico or Colombia doing this? So many assassinations. Edit: although they probably just use US dollars for everything.
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How many old people who keep their mattress stuffed with their life savings are going to be hosed by this?
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Outrail posted:How many old people who keep their mattress stuffed with their life savings are going to be hosed by this? Of those who only have legitimately earned and reported savings? Zero. This plan is beautiful because it only inconveniences those that have dirty money. If your money is clean, you can just take it and put it in the bank/exchange them for clean notes.
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• From Midnight Nov 8, 2016 today, ₹ 500 & ₹ 1000 notes are no longer legal tender. • On November 9, all banks will remain closed for public work. • On November 9 and in some places November 10, ATMs will not work. •You have 50 days (From 10 Nov to 30 Dec) to deposit notes of Rs 500 & Rs 1000 in any Bank or Post office. • New ₹ 500 & ₹ 2000 note that will be issued. Edit: I always liked the Rupee sign. This clip art is very fitting for this scheme. I would blow Dane Cook posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/5c195e/do_you_guys_know_any_people_hoarding_lots_of/ quote:A dad's friend lost close to 100 Cr. I have seen gunny sacks full of old notes in their room, no account of how many were there. The room got flooded once, and he lost close to 50Cr based on weight of the notes. Not a bead of sweat. Not any now too, as they will find some other way to take ahem ahem gifts from their clients. 
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They wouldn't even hear about this in Mexico because here the corruption goes all the way up to the president, literally. Dude plagiarized his thesis for college, people found he owned a millions+ house, he threw his wife under the bus for that one, he'd never do anything to affect the income flow for himself and his other buddies in power. Reading this thread has been enlightening because Mexico seems to share some Chinese characteristics, off the top of my head, corruption as the norm and cha bu duo are two except they are not as ah, I want to say 'careless' here, like in here people still can stop at not selling contaminated baby formula. I don't know for how long that'll hold though, usually the party in power knew they could steal but up to a degree, up to where people would tolerate it AND where the country could still exist despite the stealing and corruption, now it seems like all the politicians are in 'let's steal all we can' mode, even if they end up draining the country dead, I guess they figure they can just escape with their money while the country collapses, again, seems to me like the sort of short sightedness that Chinese corruption has. TL:DR: Present China is a bleak image of the horrible future that could be for Mexico, and it depresses me a lot.
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