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Brother Entropy posted:my broke rear end got so close to throwing what i figured would be easy money on predictit even if she won this still would have been a bad choice not being rude, its just good stock market sense; you dont pay lots of money for the already successful in the hopes that they get more successful, you flick pennies at beggar companies and wait for one of them to make that penny worth a grand if the former fails you lose everything, if the latter fails who cares, you just lost a penny
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RadicalWall posted:The democrats are finally out of talent. Who is even left? O'Malley? serious answer: I'd start looking into all the downballot candidates Bernie pointed out it's clear that's the direction dems need to take going forward
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Covok posted:Which government type will exist in this region after America falls in 8 years? I say monarchy. make sense that Emperor Trump will work with his Inner Circle to establish the First States of Trump as his term nears its end.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Biden or Warren might have won. I don't think Bernie had a chance. Jim Webb would have won.
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https://twitter.com/MattBors/status/796232068535459840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Sanders was not more likeable than Hillary. No. He lacks charisma. But the fact that he spoke about the poor at all would probably have kept some (enough?) of the people who ended up voting for Trump at home so there could be four more years of this whole thing we have going on trundling along.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Biden or Warren might have won. I don't think Bernie had a chance. bernie would have crushed it. hillary lost with the working class whites, as expected 1000 times over, she just did so about 50% worse than most thought was possible. would not have happened with bernie, period. he would have made trump look like the elitist bossman fucker . easy win, as has been explained a billion times.
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Haystack posted:I could give two shits about trump. Our foreign policy was already 9/10ths hosed up, and he's too in love with putin to trigger the apocalypse on that front at least the supreme court 
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Nonsense posted:Thanks Obama  dropped more than just the mic
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jBrereton posted:Sanders was not more likeable than Hillary. No. He lacks charisma. But the fact that he spoke about the poor at all would probably have kept some (enough?) of the people who ended up voting for Trump at home so there could be four more years of this whole thing we have going on trundling along. seriously, it would have been agonizingly easy relative to this stupid bullshit song and dance. flagellate yourself.
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Nov 9, 2016 10:26
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Nonsense posted:Goldwater thumbs upping Hillary for her massive win today turns out hillary never actually changed her views from goldwaterism, it was all a long con to get a white supremacist elected
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team overhead smash posted:I would be really interested to have a list of which posters were really adamant about things that turned out to be really wrong. Like not just the election result, but things like Nate Silver being an idiot and 538 being wrong while Bayesian models which predicted a 100% certain victory for Clinton were right. i made fun of nate silver a lot in the trump thread and thought clinton was the overwhelming favorite going in wrong, of course
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What lesson can the Republicans take away from this except that they obviously hadn't been going right wing crazy enough with their tea party flirts. My brother is absolutely thrilled Trump won, and STILL refuses to believe Obama was born here. Everyone was ready to declare the Republican party dead but now its clear that the Democratic party was the one driving an empty bus.
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The question comes to mind: did we do too much satan hailing, or not enough hailing of satan?
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Nov 9, 2016 10:26
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gently caress you also Utah, Trump almost grabbed 50% and McMuffin lost to even Hillary. I didn't even get the chaos EVs I wanted. Utah is the worst state, in part because they think they are the best state. At least Mississippi is self aware.
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Nov 9, 2016 10:27
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Montasque posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/796273905233252352 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDQjtCfUhPw
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As a political cartoonist this is good news
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if you voted for hillary in the primary, start with 1000 hail marys then report back for personalized instructions
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jBrereton posted:Sanders was not more likeable than Hillary. No. He lacks charisma. But the fact that he spoke about the poor at all would probably have kept some (enough?) of the people who ended up voting for Trump at home so there could be four more years of this whole thing we have going on trundling along. being likable isn't entirely about charisma jBrereton posted:But the fact that he spoke about the poor at all things like that also have a lot to do with being likable, especially with a demographic that the party has basically been failing for years
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Nov 9, 2016 10:27
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LoL, at the fact that statistics, polling, ground game, and money meant jack of all poo poo in the end. Chaos reigns and we're all the lost and the damned.
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jBrereton posted:Sanders was not more likeable than Hillary. No. He lacks charisma. But the fact that he spoke about the poor at all would probably have kept some (enough?) of the people who ended up voting for Trump at home so there could be four more years of this whole thing we have going on trundling along. Oh yes, the guy who had a worshipful and enraptured following in love with his grumpy eccentricity has no evidence of likeability.
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Nov 9, 2016 10:28
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President Trump, the last President.
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team overhead smash posted:You mean NAFTA which Bush signed and put in place? It was negotiated by GHWB but not in force until 1994. Clinton (the one with a personality), was elected with support from trade unions under the understanding that the deal would not be enacted. This was in the Democratic platform at the time. It turns out that minor coalitions in parties don't get policies in their favor because their support can be taken for granted! See: the religious right, trade unions, LBGTQs, etc. It also turns out that no one gives a gently caress about poor people because they're poor and the whole point to being a politician is to get money and gently caress bitches. That said, you need those poor people to vote for you so you should probably do a little pandering if you want to win.
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Nov 9, 2016 10:28
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Well this kinda sucks. In retrospect I've known enough black and hispanic people to realize that chunk of them would be down for trumps rabble rousing as well and ill be banned for forgetting that. The worst part though will be another decade or so of a conservitive supreme court unless barack gets tricky or Trump does something dumb enough to get himself impeach before even taking office. On the bright side im a middle class white male with solid finances, so at least I should be able to ride this poo poo out v  v
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Neurolimal posted:even if she won this still would have been a bad choice yeah see this is why i didn't do it i had a vague sense that it was a dumb idea even if i couldn't articulate it like this
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RadicalWall posted:What lesson can the Republicans take away from this except that they obviously hadn't been going right wing crazy enough with their tea party flirts. My brother is absolutely thrilled Trump won, and STILL refuses to believe Obama was born here.
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Vox Nihili posted:seriously, it would have been agonizingly easy relative to this stupid bullshit song and dance. flagellate yourself.
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Thundercracker posted:LoL, at the fact that statistics, polling, ground game, and money meant jack of all poo poo in the end. Chaos reigns and we're all the lost and the damned. It's just incredible how much everything has consistently not mattered, and possibly never will again.
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team overhead smash posted:I would be really interested to have a list of which posters were really adamant about things that turned out to be really wrong. Like not just the election result, but things like Nate Silver being an idiot and 538 being wrong while Bayesian models which predicted a 100% certain victory for Clinton were right. check out my post history my dude. I will be the first to admit I hosed up real hard
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Nov 9, 2016 10:29
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The correct lesson to take away is that saying your presidential election is rigged, and the laughing stock of the world for months & racist frogs really does help GOTV far more than any inside-baseball OH I REMEMBER THOSE LBJ POLITICAL ADS! ME! I REMEMBER THAT AD!
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actually terrified at the ramifications of this election regarding journalism in the next few yearsjBrereton posted:Sanders was not more likeable than Hillary. No. He lacks charisma. But the fact that he spoke about the poor at all would probably have kept some (enough?) of the people who ended up voting for Trump at home so there could be four more years of this whole thing we have going on trundling along. don't think any objective measure agrees with that
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I'm gonna try to get in on the ground floor of the Duckworth 2020 campaign. Lordy, 20/20 is apt for oh poo poo we elected a fascist in 2016.
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Nov 9, 2016 10:29
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jBrereton posted:I'm not a hillary fan or anything but I think Sanders would honestly have been crushed in the debates and by a media that was probably even more hostile to him than Trump (who it at least pandered to with attention). nope, he was likeable, which is 90% of the fight. the other 10% was identifying with alienated workers. it's literally his entire angle, my god you folks are dense
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How I feel right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0VxGRWPh28
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Nov 9, 2016 10:29
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well this is a real hosed up thing to wake up to
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Nonsense posted:The remaining cuddly parts of the internet will be torn to shreds.
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With this Hillary loss, I'm starting to get the idea you need some kind of, I dunno, charisma to become President. It could be nothing, but I think the rise of all these Talking Picture Machines really ups the need for some Moxie.
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Pick posted:Anti-semitism has in no way gone away and it was going to become an issue, among other issues. I wanted a female president more than anything but Dems should have followed one of their own with a face that communicated "stability in more of that", which to the average dipshit is a straight white guy. you continue to miss the point completely. when people's concern is their jobs are going away and they're sick and poor and desperate and your only response is "it's time for a female president/#ItsHerTurn" and "America is already great" that's not gonna cut it. even if you delete the first part and have a white guy say it, they will still reject you they don't want stability they want radical change
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