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supergreatfriend
Oct 16, 2008

ask me about
COFFEE


P.33 - I'll Be Right Behind You

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flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
This is probably one of my favorite stages, for a few reasons.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!
I'm surprised by how much the game hasn't revealed yet, even halfway done.

Brutakas
Oct 10, 2012

Farewell, marble-dwellers!
Domo Arigato
Missus Takato

felgs
Dec 31, 2008

Cats cure all ills. Post more of them.

This stage is great, and even if the cutscene reads a bit confusing, the most important thing is conveyed well.

goodbye ms. takato, the most badass character

davidHalestorm
Aug 5, 2009
That's a sad update, Miss Takato got a tragic backstory and we also know that the dead don't stay dead in Hanuda :smith:

SloppyDoughnuts
Apr 9, 2010

I set fire to the rain watched it pour as I touched your face
Mrs Takato lighting the candles isn't TOO weird if you think about it. There were melted candles and the mana cross in the school so clearly the school conducts prayers. Mrs Takato, as a resident of Hanuda and an employee of the school, more than likely is a member of the religion herself. And what do religious people do during crises? They pray. So seeing 4 shrines to her religion and having a lighter and 4 candles, it kinda makes sense for her to have lit them.

It's just not obvious for US to do that because we aren't really put into the mind of Reiko very well.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help
I think the game hints pretty well that Ms Takato looks after Harumi like she is her daughter. In the starting cutscene she says "how about if I be your mother?" and then calls her "Megumi" --- which I thought it was strange (and also thought it was the name of yet another character I had forgotten about, but thankfully, it is explained soon later).

No sightjacking in this episode. Wouldn't that help track whether the Shibito can find Harumi? I guess the level is short enough to repeat, and Ms Takato has a weapon, so no stealth is required, and therefore no sightjacking.

Also thankfully, SGF explained the final cutscene, because yes, I didn't get where Harumi was teleported and why she was suddenly in danger.

At least this time the game gives the player the "choice" to... kill sacrifice themselves. It's mostly a non-choice, but it is still left to be a result of the player's action.

It was an intersting reveal to be surprised by Akira being a Shibito and then find out how it happened, but the game making that choice (taking away our control) for a previously playable character who we were helping survive, was kind of a lovely thing to pull.

Although, couldn't Ms Takato just run to some point in the map (like a ledge or a bridge) to deal with the Shibito one by one and overpower them? She has a weapon, and it was like only 3 Shibito...?

AbstractNapper fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Nov 8, 2016

Tendales
Mar 9, 2012

AbstractNapper posted:


Although, couldn't Ms Takato just run to some point in the map (like a ledge or a bridge) to deal with the Shibito one by one and overpower them? She has a weapon, and it was like only 3 Shibito...?

She won't risk the shibito getting bored and wandering back to Harumi.

Molly Millions
Jan 27, 2011

It's not like bullshit, more like poetry.
gently caress, my second favorite character exploded.

Shirec
Jul 29, 2009

How to cock it up, Fig. I

That was very well done. I agree that it's a little easy to argue she could have run away, but considering the stress/fear she was under and her personal history, I understand the actions. This game is subtle in a way that I appreciate.

placid saviour
Apr 6, 2009
I kept forgetting this was an escort mission and then jumped every time Harumi's little loving face came running out of the shadows behind SGF. Scarier than any shibito.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

Let's not forget in our mourning that she went out in a pretty badass way all things considered. :black101: Better than Akira by a country mile too.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Missus Takato just got a free pass to go teach the children of Valhalla

scorpiobean
Dec 22, 2004

I'll have one sugar coma drink, please.
I really liked the music in this episode. Very creepy and atmospheric. Also I haven't played this game and have no idea what happens but it appears poo poo Is Getting Real. More blood for the angry alien sea god!

I'll put my bit of speculation/observation in spoilers perhaps but the shibito boarding up houses and whatever kind of reminds me of people preparing for natural disasters like hurricanes and whatnot. And natural disaster sort of seems to keep popping up with Tamon's mudslide and Reiki's rogue wave and connections to a sea god sort of makes sense in that perspective Anyway, like I said, this is more of an idle observation on my part and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the story resolves.

scorpiobean fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Nov 8, 2016

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

scorpiobean posted:

I really liked the music in this episode. Very creepy and atmospheric. Also I haven't played this game and have no idea what happens but it appears poo poo Is Getting Real. More blood for the angry alien sea god!

I'll put my bit of speculation/observation in spoilers perhaps but the shibito boarding up houses and whatever kind of reminds me of people preparing for natural disasters like hurricanes and whatnot. And natural disaster sort of seems to keep popping up with Tamon's mudslide and Reiki's rogue wave and connections to a sea god sort of makes sense in that perspective Anyway, like I said, this is more of an idle observation on my part and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the story resolves.

Yeah, the music is so good. The creepy little voices throughout gave me goosebumps.

E-flat
Jun 22, 2007

3-flat
I've never even heard of this game before and I've been having a blast, thanks supergreatfriend. I started keeping a word doc open next to the videos to keep note of my thoughts as I'm trying to figure out what the hell's going on, like if it's time travel, or parallel dimensions, or actually the underworld, or my personal favorite, aliens.

The smooth side of the pyramid-shaped Mana Stone (aka “Sacred Stone from Above” archive 10) looks like polished black stainless steel and made me instantly go 'ok aliens' before I even remembered this is by the guy from Silent Hill.

There's the "comet." There's the way the shibito are boarding poo poo up and being on patrols, as if they're arming and fortifying the town against... intruders? (Or they're gardening, because yeah, if people are coming over you want your landscaping to look nice. That's just basic.) There's the "glowing light flying above Gojaku Peak" the little kid wrote about in their diary sometime after 1970, archive 28. Archive 27, the picture of the miners from 1958, has a UFO. And then in episode 14 we get cronenbergs. Honest-to-god cronenbergs with hive mind mother brains and weirdly technological clicks and whirs. The tractor beam--sorry, the 'light of the sea serpent'--at the end of episode 28. And I know the “alien god” in the Hanuda Hymn Book (archive 54) from this last episode means more like “foreigner god” instead of “literally extraterrestrial god” but still. But still. I guess I'm saying I'm looking forward to the easter egg alien ending. :v: Or at least that I hope there's one.


Couple questions though.

The water at the bottom of the canal after Kyoya shuts off the valve in episode 27 doesn't really look all that red. Is that a graphical thing, or is it supposed to be uncontaminated/less contaminated water? Similarly, it's raining in the cutscene with Yoriko and Kyoya, but the rain isn't red either. I'm wondering if all of the water in Hanuda is supposed to be contaminated, because (also spoilering speculation?) if so, then that should include the water vapor in the air. ...Which would make me concerned as the game goes on that a lot of our characters are gonna start dropping like dragonfly shibito :(

Shoeless
Sep 2, 2011

E-flat posted:

Similarly, it's raining in the cutscene with Yoriko and Kyoya, but the rain isn't red either. I'm wondering if all of the water in Hanuda is supposed to be contaminated, because (also spoilering speculation?) if so, then that should include the water vapor in the air. ...Which would make me concerned as the game goes on that a lot of our characters are gonna start dropping like dragonfly shibito :(

I just figure it's like with normal water. It looks clear when it's just drops, but you get a big enough concentration of it like a lake or sea and it looks blue. Only, in this case red.

Shei-kun
Dec 2, 2011

Screw you, physics!
Farewell, Reiko Takato. You were the best goddamn character who got poo poo done, and didn't give up even in the end.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Reiko Takato was a goddamn hero.

EagerSleeper
Feb 3, 2010

by R. Guyovich
R.I.P.

Reiko in Peace/Pieces


Reiko was a cool character, god forgive me.

Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

AbstractNapper posted:

Although, couldn't Ms Takato just run to some point in the map (like a ledge or a bridge) to deal with the Shibito one by one and overpower them? She has a weapon, and it was like only 3 Shibito...?

This is a pretty classical atonement situation; she feels guilty about not being able to save her own daughter and thus is taking an extreme action to be certain that the shibito won't be able to get harumi.



RIP awesome teacher lady

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Night10194 posted:

Reiko Takato was a goddamn hero.

She was a beast. A pure Momma Bear.

"Oh, here's an undying monster come to hurt me and my baby!" *caves its head in with a crowbar.* *caves in another* *and another.*

"Too many. Crowbar not enough. GET AWAY FROM HER, YOU BITCHES!" *blows them all up.*

RoadCrewWorker
Nov 19, 2007

camels aren't so great
What happens if - through sheer sgf-inate pro-gaming skill or just using cheats - you disable the 3 shibito near the end? Are they just invincible? Do they wake up immediately or does it spawn 3 new ones? Is there simply no other ending trigger?

azren
Feb 14, 2011


supergreatfriend posted:



P.33 - I'll Be Right Behind You

GOD DAMNIT!

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

RoadCrewWorker posted:

What happens if - through sheer sgf-inate pro-gaming skill or just using cheats - you disable the 3 shibito near the end? Are they just invincible? Do they wake up immediately or does it spawn 3 new ones? Is there simply no other ending trigger?

From comments on youtube for the last video, it seems Reiko does not have the stamina to actually pull it off, so the game neuters you, essentially. I don't think anyone can confirm what happens if you somehow overcome the limitations.

Esoteric Banana
Mar 29, 2010

This game likes to kill all the awesome characters.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Esoteric Banana posted:

This game likes to kill all the awesome characters.

If you gotta die, 'gently caress it, blow the zombies up and save the day!' is the best way to die.

Shirec
Jul 29, 2009

How to cock it up, Fig. I

Night10194 posted:

If you gotta die, 'gently caress it, blow the zombies up and save the day!' is the best way to die.

Even if the shibito are blown up though, they can't die, right? I don't know if it'll get addressed, but I assume they'll shamble back eventually

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Shirec posted:

Even if the shibito are blown up though, they can't die, right? I don't know if it'll get addressed, but I assume they'll shamble back eventually

Certainly, but she got Harumi away from them, at least.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

Yosuke will now die for you.

RoadCrewWorker posted:

What happens if - through sheer sgf-inate pro-gaming skill or just using cheats - you disable the 3 shibito near the end? Are they just invincible? Do they wake up immediately or does it spawn 3 new ones? Is there simply no other ending trigger?

My guess would be that the siren headache incapacitates Reiko before you can finish them off.

RoadCrewWorker
Nov 19, 2007

camels aren't so great
Yeah that wouldn't surprise me.

Night10194 posted:

Certainly, but she got Harumi away from them, at least.
Another bonus: there's probably not enough left of her to literally come back to bite her



(never played the game but that would certainly match the tone of twin sister shi-brain giving out free hugs)

Keldulas
Mar 18, 2009

marshmallow creep posted:

From comments on youtube for the last video, it seems Reiko does not have the stamina to actually pull it off, so the game neuters you, essentially. I don't think anyone can confirm what happens if you somehow overcome the limitations.

Yeah a thing for the people here to note. After the siren sounds, Reiko is running like she's already fatigued from running. Also, her movements turning that gasoline valve are VERY sluggish. I wouldn't be surprised if Reiko can take no damage before going down.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Keep in mind that this isn't her first mission, either. She had a full day, then stayed up late star gazing, then that escape from the school - which included shibito combat - and then no rest as she's been escorting Harumi around. And this entire level is long and includes lantern lighting + shibito combat, so - yeah, she's probably exhausted, terrified, and running on fumes.

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:
What would happen if you threw a Shibito into the sun?

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer

IronSaber posted:

What would happen if you threw a Shibito into the sun?

The shibito falls back down after a while and resumes activities

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

IronSaber posted:

What would happen if you threw a Shibito into the sun?

The Shibito boards up the sun.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

PurpleXVI posted:

The Shibito boards up the sun.

shibito sun
wont you come
and wash away red rain

shibito sun wont you come
wont you come

Robotic Folksinger
Jun 27, 2008

I guess a robot would have to be crazy to wanna be a folksinger
What happens when you light all the lanterns? Seems like a reasonable thing to do, Missus Takato has four candles, and form what I could see on the map there are four lanterns. Can you unlock a secret ending where Akira and Reiko lives and defeat the alien god through a combination of marksmanship and teaching?

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Artix
Apr 26, 2010

He's finally back,
to kick some tail!
And this time,
he's goin' to jail!
That's almost certainly a second objective for later in the game.

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