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My Linux Rig posted:More bitching about the poor lower class, whatever will they do now??? Yeah thinking the poor don't like him is crazy, in the general he was the only one talking about how they've been screwed over. I don't think he has a plan to actually help them, but he at least looked and talked to them.
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From my perspective, this is looking like the beginnings of a train wreck or house fire. And I'm hoping it would be huge. The schadenfreude I will get from it would be delicious. After all America, you chose him, didn't you? (The wall's going to be great. I really want it to be built, just to see how ineffectual it is.)
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plushpuffin posted:Everyone saying that this has happened before and we survived slavery and Jim Crow and Nixon is refusing to acknowledge climate change. We weren't facing the horrible effects 40-50 years ago. We are now, and it's going to get worse. Much worse. Every single year. There's been a low-level extinction event ongoing since we killed off the Mastadons, but it's accelerating right now into a very rapid mass die-off. Just try agitating to preserve our social progress as our government becomes ever-more authoritarian and we're losing a New Orleans-sized city every few years while running out of fresh water for drinking and irrigation. This is actually my biggest fear at this point. I don't care what Trump does to the social politics of this country (and yes I am a straight white male) because, as horrible as rolling back gay marriage and re-banning abortion are, we can FIX those later. We CANNOT fix climate change later. Hands down. We had to fix it twenty years ago, but we didn't, so the best we could have done was fix it now. Now we won't. gently caress, I wanted to live to see space travel become slightly more routine in my lifetime! I have a shirt that says "Too late for tall ships, too soon for star ships!" I guess I'll wear that ironically after KSC floods due to climate change now!
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Cheesus posted:I'm genuinely curious; what makes you thinks either part of this is true and/or will happen? Not that person, but it'd probably be better ratings. Who doesn't want to be Woodward or Bernstein?
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65 million people voted for Obama in 2012 50 million voted for Hillary I hate Dems
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My Linux Rig posted:More bitching about the poor lower class, whatever will they do now??? Yeah because he promised them the nice paying factory shop jobs back. Well I have a news flash, their not coming back and their wallmart jobs will die when the recession hits. Now who do you think they'll blame? Oh yes the guy who is in power when they lost their jobs. You see I love that people in this thread think that a man who lost the popular vote and mostly had Hillary being the wife of Bill Nafta Clintoon to thank for his victory is somehow magical, and will just initiate a thousand years of Republican darkness. I swear you are all worse then Freep.
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Crowsbeak posted:Trump lost the popular vote and he'll have two percent less supporters next time. I'd say that this will be the kick in the pants the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact needs to get to the magic 270 figure but I don't think there are enough Democratic state houses left to make it happen.
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Glazier posted:Yeah thinking the poor don't like him is crazy, in the general he was the only one talking about how they've been screwed over. I don't think he has a plan to actually help them, but he at least looked and talked to them. Lmao this is such a horseshit talking point. Hillary ran on a platform of increased minimum wage and free college. Trump ran on a platform of blame Mexicans and Chinese people. Guess which one white people thought was better??? Edit: "oh but we didn't FEEL like Hillary's policy was sincere, but the white conman fascist?  "
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mintskoal posted:Post-hangover thoughts: Same. I'm not white but my mother is, and I'm rich so that sadly offsets the gay thing for the most part. I will do everything I can to directly help those who are affected, but I do feel bad it won't hurt me or people like me. Lightning Knight posted:Lmao this is such a horseshit talking point. Hillary ran on a platform of increased minimum wage and free college. Trump ran on a platform of blame Mexicans and Chinese people. Guess which one white people thought was better??? Feelings count for a lot in a campaign, which is after all an ad; think of it like medicine. Hillary was a prescription drug, tested, vetted, approved by the establishment and had half her ad taken up by required disclaimers and side effects; Trump was Head-On, repetitive, easy to remember and having no substance. Gynocentric Regime fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:65 million people voted for Obama in 2012 Yes people were unwise, but we can realize that running a establishment person in a year of the insurgent is also unwise. ComradeCosmobot posted:I'd say that this will be the kick in the pants the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact needs to get to the magic 270 figure but I don't think there are enough Democratic state houses left to make it happen. True. I would say that the Democrats should defintely make that part of their rebuilding effort. Seriously I love how people here seem to think a really low voter turnout election year means most of America is nazi, rather then the candidates just turned off people.
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Cheesus posted:I'm genuinely curious; what makes you thinks either part of this is true and/or will happen? Because focusing on controversy gets more views/ad revenue than saying "he seems to be doing a good job". jwang posted:From my perspective, this is looking like the beginnings of a train wreck or house fire. And I'm hoping it would be huge. The schadenfreude I will get from it would be delicious. After all America, you chose him, didn't you? Even this sort of rings hollow. America chose Clinton by popular vote. The EC chose Trump.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:65 million people voted for Obama in 2012 Fewer Republicans voted for Trump than Romney. It's like 59.1 vs 60.9m. Hillary wasn't beaten by the Republicans so much as her own base totally bailed on her in spite of having infinite money and Obama Turnout Machine 3.0.
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sean10mm posted:Fewer Republicans voted for Trump than Romney. It's like 59.1 vs 60.9m. Quit sugar coating this poo poo. White people chose white identity politics and nationalism over progressivism. This country is hosed guys. No amount of accelerationism is going to fix that before global warming is unstoppable.
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Crowsbeak posted:If he goes tariff war, they probably wont. At the moment they think he;'ll just get the police to kill the poor. drat i didnt know Gerald Kaufman posted here
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Lightning Knight posted:Lmao this is such a horseshit talking point. Hillary ran on a platform of increased minimum wage and free college. Trump ran on a platform of blame Mexicans and Chinese people. Guess which one white people thought was better??? Welcome to politics. If you are seen as inauthentic, it doesn't matter how good your policy proposals are.
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z0glin Warchief posted:The Dems really are completely shut out at every level, outside a few stronghold states, aren't they? Does this trace back to the DNC ditching Howard Dean and the 50 state strategy?
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osker posted:Outside of a few places like WNYC's On The Media, you're not going to get much real introspection about the media's failures. I'd say there's a pretty good chance John Oliver or similar journalist does a piece on it. DNC seems to be getting a lot of poo poo about Bernie Sanders treatment. What are the chances the DNC reforms the primary election process? Eg switching to a preferential voting system. I'm guessing slim to nil, but wouldn't something like this at the party level be relatively easy to implement and help in Bernie Sanders type situation? How would a reform process like this get started?
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mintskoal posted:Post-hangover thoughts: If we're in a recession then probably not. Lightning Knight posted:Quit sugar coating this poo poo. No, actually they voted even less for Trump then Romney, the election was lost due to significant numbers of Obama voters staying home. Deified Data posted:Because focusing on controversy gets more views/ad revenue than saying "he seems to be doing a good job". This to, also I wonder if the CIA thinks Trump is in tank with Russia if they might just decide that the FBI had the right idea.
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Monaghan posted:Welcome to politics. If you are seen as inauthentic, it doesn't matter how good your policy proposals are. So white leftists are like yeah gently caress it gently caress minorities let's just run old white dudes for eternity, we'll totally appeal to the white racists more than the white racism party. The Democratic Party can't win being the Republicans but more milquetoast. You guys hate Bill Clinton for being exactly that.
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As a geologist let me tell you its already too late for global warming. Mostly Asia will be affected directly in terms of death toll over the next century. The main debate is whether it will lead to a stagnation of the climate i.e. if currents and weather patterns start to decline this could cause hydrogen sulfide bacteria explosions, thought to be a cause of past mass extinctions. Earth warms -> weather stops -> biodiversity dies -> hydrogen sulfide gases complex land animals.
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I said it last night but hillary probably just had the worst presidential loss of the modern era. I mean my god the advantages she had
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you know i'm like 90% sure people would have been perfectly happy here if clinton won the ec and lost the popular vote
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Deified Data posted:Because focusing on controversy gets more views/ad revenue than saying "he seems to be doing a good job".
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sean10mm posted:Fewer Republicans voted for Trump than Romney. It's like 59.1 vs 60.9m. The best part about this is that Democrats are almost certainly going to learn the wrong lesson "that superior GOTV doesn't matter" (The actual lesson is that GOTV only matters if you're Dem, and Republicans don't need it)
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sean10mm posted:Fewer Republicans voted for Trump than Romney. It's like 59.1 vs 60.9m. Huh, It is actually 59 million now. That jumped when I wasn't looking. Trumps doing worse than Romney. I miss Obama
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FizFashizzle posted:I said it last night but hillary probably just had the worst presidential loss of the modern era. People want a show apparently, not policy delivered as if in a PTO meeting.
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TheKennedys posted:Here we go, boys (and not-boys). Strap in, it's gonna be a bumpy ride. That's good, right? I mean, was anybody really wanting a war with Russia?
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corn in the bible posted:you know i'm like 90% sure people would have been perfectly happy here if clinton won the ec and lost the popular vote Compared to this? Of course. But I wouldn't be optimistic about her chances going forward.
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Anybody who think's Trump's anti-reality field will be dispelled is deluding themselves. He's in a position now to use political favors as a currency to make any person/group he disagrees with just... go away. It's not difficult in a connected world to mobilize any number of people in a campaign to silence somebody.
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Trump got less votes because traditionally Republican areas didn't turn out as hard for him, but white people abandoned the Obama coalition in droves in Wi, Mi, and Pa and that's why we lost.
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Sylink posted:People want a show apparently, not policy delivered as if in a PTO meeting. how should we follow up popular obama and his youth vote? a 70 year old grandma who voted for the iraq war that got obama elected in the first place
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What about the non-white people who voted for Trump?
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spacetoaster posted:What about the non-white people who voted for Trump? What about them?
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spacetoaster posted:What about the non-white people who voted for Trump? A small fraction of black people and FYGM Hispanics. Your point is? The FYGMism of Hispanics is another reason leftists are hosed lmao. Hispanics want to be white people, not show solidarity. Y'all white leftists grave dancing on Hillary should be despondent at the realization leftism is dead in this country for the next 25 years.
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corn in the bible posted:you know i'm like 90% sure people would have been perfectly happy here if clinton won the ec and lost the popular vote Based on expectations happiness isn't what I'd describe it. Posters would accurately predict she'd have no mandate and republicans would have even more fuel to undermine her. Democrats of course will do the exact opposite for the reasons that have gotten to this point to begin with.
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spacetoaster posted:What about the non-white people who voted for Trump? Reminder that Trump really did do better with "the Hispanics" and "the blacks" (than Romney)
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corn in the bible posted:you know i'm like 90% sure people would have been perfectly happy here if clinton won the ec and lost the popular vote No that would be preety bad. Also what do you think Trump could pull a thatcher with the Gerald Kaufman line or something? Whose the SD/LP in this scenario. Lightning Knight posted:So white leftists are like yeah gently caress it gently caress minorities let's just run old white dudes for eternity, we'll totally appeal to the white racists more than the white racism party.
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spacetoaster posted:What about the non-white people who voted for Trump? They weren't as decisive as the white people who couldn't care enough to get out and vote against Trump's brand of white nationalism.
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