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exquisite tea posted:It's okay, we were all reading the same info deriving the same general conclusions from what we saw and got totally blindsided. day of turnout sucked. It's honestly that simple. The lead we had going into eday should have been safe, but it wasn't~
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This is twice in my lifetime I've seen my parents and family celebrate when a terrible idiot gets chosen from the GOP primary because 'there's no way he can win! WE HAVE THIS!' and then we lose the EC while winning the popular vote, lol. I told them back in August, last year: "This is a scarier thing than you think." I was right. You'd think people who lived through Reagan would know to be wary of 'empty' but charismatic politicians.
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euphronius posted:Trump isn't healthy . I would be shocked if he makes it 8 years in a presidents schedule. Trump being absentee president because it's too much work would arguably be more dangerous, because it means he'll start delegating to Secretary of State Newt Gingrich, Attorney-General Rudy Giuliani, Vice President Mike Pence, White House Chief of Staff Chris Christie, and Secretary of Defense Allen West.
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Cubey posted:there is no doubt in my mind that a populist candidate like bernie would have done this. If only there was a strong leftist populist running for a senate seat this year that shows just how full of poo poo you are.
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triple sulk posted:I think he loses on taxes, to be honest. he probably doesn't get smoked to poo poo in the upper midwest so i think he manages it. plus people hate banks so it might have worked. who knows. who cares.
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Nov 9, 2016 16:17
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Nov 9, 2016 16:18
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Somebody go back and un-kill those Primary threads where everybody told us we had to vote Hillary because she was more electable.
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Thoguh posted:I mean, I am sad Trump won but the fact that the democrats made sure she was the nominee and thought they could pundit there way to a win is why we have president Trump. I don't feel bad for her. The #1 reason we have a President Trump is Hillary Clinton.
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https://twitter.com/gerardtbaker/status/796259243968122884 "Deplorables Rise Up to Reshape America"
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exquisite tea posted:It's okay, we were all reading the same info deriving the same general conclusions from what we saw and got totally blindsided. this is the weird thing, because the slide to far right fascism in the Western world began nearly a decade ago some of us have been saying that, either in threads like this one or elsewhere, and up until today we were discounted out of hand wake the gently caress up, this isn't a fluke and it's going to get worse...... move to Canada? New Zealand? lmao it'll be there too FIGHT, STOP TOEING THE PARTY LINE
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gradenko_2000 posted:Trump being absentee president because it's too much work would arguably be more dangerous, because it means he'll start delegating to Secretary of State Newt Gingrich, Attorney-General Rudy Giuliani, Vice President Mike Pence, White House Chief of Staff Chris Christie, and Secretary of Defense Allen West. Ag Rudy is going to be a nightmare
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Thoguh posted:Somebody go back and un-kill those Primary threads where everybody told us we had to vote Hillary because she was more electable. guilty as charged
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Attorney General Rudolph "arresting blacks for jumping the turnstiles since 1994" Giuliani
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Thoguh posted:I mean, I am sad Trump won but the fact that the democrats made sure she was the nominee and thought they could pundit there way to a win is why we have president Trump. I don't feel bad for her. The #1 reason we have a President Trump is Hillary Clinton. lol n the #2 reason is jeb!
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:We have Trump because ignorant racist bigoted fucks saw someone who spoke their language. Actually it's because Hillary was a terrible candidate who didn't embrace economic populism.
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C-SPAN Caller posted:You mean the same cuts Obama extended? quote:Obama was too little too late on climate change. Hillary was even worse than him. You need a president to declare war on climate change if you want any hope of that not loving us. quote:Also Obama care has a literal poor tax if you can't afford health care. gently caress Obamacare.
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fknlo posted:His entire legacy is going to get flushed down the toilet in the first 100 days of Trump's presidency. The handle has been pulled, his legacy is just circling the drain now.
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:We have Trump because ignorant racist bigoted fucks saw someone who spoke their language. poo poo like that post is why we have a President Trump. Shits broken and Trump tapped in to it while Hillary thought it was automatic.
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Nodelphi posted:Maybe Ivanka will keep Michelle Obama around as a speech writer. Melania is his wife Although I'm sure he's gonna bang both of them in the Oval at some point
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VikingSkull posted:this is the weird thing, because the slide to far right fascism in the Western world began nearly a decade ago Or we can wait till after the second holocaust. That might scare people away from fascism <-- what everyone who wants to move to Canada is actually saying, unknowingly.
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Not a Step posted:Oh hey I saw this earlier but didnt comment. The sales tax defeat is actually really loving bad because the school systems in Oklahoma are on their last legs as is. They needed that money, because that dumb loving state has run itself into the ground with Republican fiscal policies. Kansas may get all the press for being a Brownback shithole, but Oklahoma has been on the decline for far longer and the damage is far deeper. Especially since the oil industry was dealt the double whammy of fracking becoming unprofitable *and* the state shaking itself apart as the Earth itself rises up to register some complaints. Losing that money means the lower performing (black and hispanic) schools are going to get shafted even harder to preserve the (white) successful schools. No, the sales tax defeat thing is actually really loving good because the legislature now has to do something about the school system in Oklahoma, which is on it's last legs. Hard bills - the kind you get primaried over - get pushed to the voters to decide way too often instead. We're really at the limits of what ballot initiatives can accomplish. We can't afford another sales tax increase. We've paid for every big infrastructure thing we've needed since 2008 with ballot initiative sales tax increases and the result is that we have the highest sales tax in the country. It's harming our economy, and it won't fix the budgetary problems our schools are having (Also, if the prior times this has happened are an indication, the state will just use the income from the sales tax increase to offset cuts to education down the road.)
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:We have Trump because ignorant racist bigoted fucks saw someone who spoke their language. And Democrats sent the worst possible alternative to him. No matter how you do the math, it's Hillary who gave us Trump.
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Schnorkles posted:No one hosed anyone. Doubt it. Thanks to the wikileaks leaks about the DNC (and also what DWS openly did against Bernie), progressives are super pissed at the Clinton machine and everyone associated with it. Also they're not just going to roll over and give the progressive wing of the democratic party the keys to the castle. There's too much corporate money invested to let that happen.
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Fuckin lol that republicans voted for eliminating the personal exemption,effectively raising everyone's taxes
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ozmunkeh posted:So wait, did Clinton send out her campaign manager to tell everyone to go home before calling Trump to concede? She didn't even give a concession speech? What a loving cowardly thing to do, especially after making so much hay about how Trump was going to rewrite the decorum rule book. shes a cowardly prideful piece of trash heres the thread for her speech in 9 mins https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3797280
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Louisgod posted:Hoping this doesn't net me a six hour probie but their conclusion insinuates that Bernie may have netted better results than Clinton simply based on inspirational messaging alone which in turn could've churned up the female voter base.  Namaste
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Covok posted:I remember I chimed in yesterday and asked if we were all remainers about to experience a brexit surprise and was laughed off. Well, the chattering skulls of the irradiated undead could be interpreted as laughing, I think.
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Not a Step posted:Poor, bitter hillarymen. Lashing out at anything except your dogshit candidate and your dogshit view of the world. The Dems lost *everything*. Every branch of government. Completely. Actually being insanely mad at the world for eight years just got millions of people to elect Donald J Trump as president of the United States of America
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gradenko_2000 posted:Trump being absentee president because it's too much work would arguably be more dangerous, because it means he'll start delegating to Secretary of State Newt Gingrich, Attorney-General Rudy Giuliani, Vice President Mike Pence, White House Chief of Staff Chris Christie, and Secretary of Defense Allen West. He isn't capable of governing in the traditional sense because of his ADHD and his lack of basic knowledge. He will have to reign and will rubberstamp things on intuition. It is kind of like the way Hitler did not concern himself with governing. He had lieutenants who built up fiefdoms and competed with each other. That way they did all the wwork and none of them became too popular or powerful. I think that the chaotic model of governance.
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Welp now that Obama has basically lifted this country back to where it was pre-2008 clusterfuck I guess it's time to put the GOP back in the driver's seat so they can gently caress up the economy again woooooo should I wait for the next crash to buy a house
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Schnorkles posted:Also the republicans better do something about the whole trade thing and fast, because the whiplash in those Rust belt states if the car factories don't come back is going to take some people's heads off. aren't they just going to blame everything bad on Obama?
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triple sulk posted:I think he loses on taxes, to be honest. he might have lost some voters to trump on taxes but look at how many midwest counties went to trump that went to obama, and also to bernie in the primaries again, the problem was turnout. people did not come out to vote for the candidate who was a business as usual politician who had decades of poo poo (most unwarranted) thrown at her and an open fbi investigation during campaign season.
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Not a Step posted:Oh hey I saw this earlier but didnt comment. The sales tax defeat is actually really loving bad because the school systems in Oklahoma are on their last legs as is. They needed that money, because that dumb loving state has run itself into the ground with Republican fiscal policies. Kansas may get all the press for being a Brownback shithole, but Oklahoma has been on the decline for far longer and the damage is far deeper. Especially since the oil industry was dealt the double whammy of fracking becoming unprofitable *and* the state shaking itself apart as the Earth itself rises up to register some complaints. Losing that money means the lower performing (black and hispanic) schools are going to get shafted even harder to preserve the (white) successful schools. It's actually a wash because although school funding is hosed in OK, adding more regressive taxation is actually a bad thing.
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