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Evil Fluffy posted:You have a better chance of seeing Trump appoint one of his own lawyers or some rear end in a top hat like Guilani, Christie, or Roy Moore. Giuliani is widely seen on tap for attorney general.
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euphronius posted:Probably collective bargaining. This is absolutely hosed. Prepare for national right to work, as well as some laws/rulings that effectively make unions impossible to survive. There's also a non-zero chance at repeal of Federal Minimum Wage laws, OSHA, and a lot of other things. The GOP have wanted to bring back the Gilded Age and there's nothing that can stop them from doing so at this point.
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Lots of trump voters are in unions so who knows .
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euphronius posted:Lots of trump voters are in unions so who knows . Then they will reap what they sowed. The GOP is not known for being gracious, in victory or defeat. If nothing else, when Trump fails to accomplish anything he's promised and millions lose their healthcare, then maybe we'll do better at the ballot box. Probably not in 2018 though, seeing as the Obama 2012 class is all up. It was always going to be a bloodbath, but we couldn't even come close to stemming the tide this year.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Giuliani is widely seen on tap for attorney general. I thought that was Christie's gig
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hobbesmaster posted:Christie is getting a pardon for bridgegate. President can't pardon state crimes.
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euphronius posted:President can't pardon state crimes. nice
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euphronius posted:Lots of trump voters are in unions so who knows . And boy do they never stop bitching about being in one.
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duz posted:And boy do they never stop bitching about being in one. Yeah they seem like the crowd that wouldn't be particularly happy about their union. GlyphGryph posted:Comedy option: republicans gently caress up so bad they lose the senate in two years, democrats actually grow half a spine instead of tepidly refusing to play by the rules of the game and claim that a President should not be able to appoint a justice if the public sentiment has shifted Very much the comedy option  Democrats couldn't bother to show up in a presidential year, and they almost never do for the midterms
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Cops love their FOPs and they are as much unions as anyone other.
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Then it might work out like Wisconsin where police and fire unions are exempted so they won't mind. That'd probably be a legislative rather than judicial carve out though.
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MrBond posted:Very much the comedy option There was 2006 after the GOP screwed the pooch sufficiently. It does require the GOP to gently caress the country over thoroughly within a few years, which is not a great scenario at any rate.
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Antti posted:There was 2006 after the GOP screwed the pooch sufficiently. It's not just that, it also requires the Democratic party to be replaced with competent individuals capable of winning elections. No matter how much the Republicans mess up, the Democrats aren't going to win unless they build a vision of a better alternative. They managed to do that in 2006 thanks to Dean's guidance and a decent slate, but it's not like he's coming back, and he might not even be enough anymore.
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I think it's more likely that the union spending on campaigns will be curtailed against collective bargaining being infringed directly.
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euphronius posted:I think it's more likely that the union spending on campaigns will be curtailed against collective bargaining being infringed directly. Unions were already barely hanging on thanks to institutional inertia. Now they're dead, until the next violent labor revolution.
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PerniciousKnid posted:Unions were already barely hanging on thanks to institutional inertia. Now they're dead, until the next violent labor revolution. Public sector unions are ok in many states still .
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euphronius posted:Public sector unions are ok in many states still . Hey, that's true, we still have blue state public sector. I guess that's something.
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euphronius posted:Public sector unions are ok in many states still . Only until the next 5-4 ruling. Which you can be drat sure is going to happen very soon since there'll be 5+ justices ready to rule broadly.
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euphronius posted:I think it's more likely that the union spending on campaigns will be curtailed against collective bargaining being infringed directly. Depends. TX Justice Willet has written on how Lochner was Cool and Good and he's on Trump's list. Dude could appoint 3 or so Bork level nuts if he wants.
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euphronius posted:Cops love their FOPs and they are as much unions as anyone other. Police unions have always escaped the republicans fatwas against public unions for some reason.
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WillyTheNewGuy posted:Anyone else thinking Trump is going to appoint Donald Trump Jr to the Supreme Court? He is going to appoint some Ted Cruz dream pick (probably not Actual Ted Cruz, someone younger) and that'll be the end of that.
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FuturePastNow posted:here's to hoping RBG's heart holds out 4-8 more years We get more of those sweet sweet RBG rebuttals. Full of sick burns on how the majority voted/reasoned their decision.
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GlyphGryph posted:Comedy option: republicans gently caress up so bad they lose the senate in two years, democrats actually grow half a spine instead of tepidly refusing to play by the rules of the game and claim that a President should not be able to appoint a justice if the public sentiment has shifted That is definitely the comedy option when you look at the map of Senate seats that are up in 2018.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Police unions have always escaped the republicans fatwas against public unions for some reason.
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I take solace in the one silver lining of a Trump Presidency is (probably) preventing the Court from going liberal. But who the hell knows what he's going to do.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Police unions have always escaped the republicans fatwas against public unions for some reason. Historically speaking, law enforcement unions tend to err rather heavily towards the conservative side of things. This is only growing as more and more ex-military people become police officers (and as police forces become more militarized). In Wisconsin, Walker and the Fitzgeralds expected that exempting police and firefighters from the union-busting bill would mean that any protests would be smacked down quickly; they didn't anticipate "Cops for Labor" being a thing and wound up activating the National Guard and the Capitol Police deputized members of the Highway Patrol. Timby fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Arkane posted:I take solace in the one silver lining of a Trump Presidency is (probably) preventing the Court from going liberal. But who the hell knows what he's going to do. I too blithely post about threats to human rights in the States.
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Is it well established in this thread that voting, reproductive, and marriage rights are elementary human rights, or is that a front for discussion now?
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Potato Salad posted:Is it well established in this thread that voting, reproductive, and marriage rights are elementary human rights, or is that a front for discussion now? No, they are absolutely rights. But so is access to Healthcare and we fail that test. So why not fail some more?
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Potato Salad posted:Is it well established in this thread that voting, reproductive, and marriage rights are elementary human rights, or is that a front for discussion now? They are now a perfectly justiciable topics, not rights, that will come to SCOTUS repeatedly in the next decade or two. If it's not explicitly enshrined in the literal text of the Constitution, I wouldn't count on anything.
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Discendo Vox posted:I'm thinking Justice Santorum. Oh god He's too old tho
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euphronius posted:Oh god 5 years younger than Garland.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:They are now a perfectly justiciable topics, not rights, that will come to SCOTUS repeatedly in the next decade or two. So when Arkane posts poo poo like "thank god no liberal scotus" its legit posting because human rights are now on the chopping table 
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The #1 pick for Trump Whacky SCOTUS Nominee is his older sister who is a judge on the third circuit of appeals. Sure she's old but that's no obstacle to The Donald.
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