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negromancer posted:I'm still waiting for someone to explain how Trump won white women by 10 points. We can talk about minority turnout or whatever, but those have reasonable answers that don't excuse the fact that white women up and down the socioeconomic ladder voted for a rapist, and the only, ONLY thing more important than womanhood to white women is whiteness. Maybe they're still salty about that "baking cookies" crack.
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treu posted:What do you even want to know? I went Kerry - Obama - Obama - Trump. "Why" would probably be my first question.
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On Terra Firma posted:Pray for trump's health. He can still gently caress things up as VP.
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treu posted:What do you even want to know? I went Kerry - Obama - Obama - Trump. Which progressive SCOTUS decision are you salty about?
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Schizotek posted:The problem isn't Bernie. I have every respect for the man, and actually put time and effort into trying to get him to be the nominee. But the people who I couldn't get to vote in the primary, who did nothing complain about a stolen primary, do nothing but attack Hillary once the primary was over, and didn't vote in the general all seem to be the same loving people. Who incidentally are now desperately claiming that NO! ITS THE PEOPLE WHO PUT EFFORT INTO POLITICS NOT I THE LAZY APATHETIC rear end in a top hat WHO AM TO BLAME! i don't know anyone who really wanted bernie and didn't vote in the primary. the argument is that bernie would have done better against trump than hillary, who has lots of baggage and has genuinely voted for stuff people do not like even today. would trump have had as much success riling up disaffected voters against bernie?
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Carlosologist posted:I kind of wonder if Obama will try and play a role in Democratic Party going forward. he's still pretty young for an exiting President but I imagine he's going to retire for a bit first He's planning on working with Holder to roll back voter suppression laws and policies around the country.
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Mister Macys posted:Actually, they'll roll it back to Tennessee vs. Scopes My bet is actually Plessy v Ferguson. Brown was my optimistic guess. But yeah that's also true, say hello to the death of science and history education in America. Oh my god. They're going to make me teach Lost Cause. I'm going to cry.
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So while the climate and environment are clearly toast, we're headed to massive debt and an even worse recession, Russia conquering Europe and China conquering SE Asia, and voting rights burned, how would they go about challenging Roe v Wade (aside from TRAP laws) and Obergfell? Obviously they will try anything and everything, but I don't immediately see a clear way a case that challenges them could come up from the lower courts.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Yes. But also I work a weird schedule in public radio, so my social circle is mostly my girlfriend, and you can only learn so much by talking to your own hand. I want to say this is the first time I legitimately laughed out loud today, so thanks for that at least.
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Serious question: what is going to happen to the MSM? Surely someone who has some kind of power is doing some soul-searching right now. I'm really bummed out about people I care about who regurgitate Drudge talking points and stuff that's totally false. I recently found out a really good friend of mine who I thought was a redeemable lolbertarian doesn't even believe in climate change. I blame the mainstream media for ignoring the plight of labor for driving people who felt left out of the economy straight into the arms of Breitbart and friends. The attack from the right that the DNC is comprised of out-of-touch elites who just throw disadvantaged groups a bone every now and then are correct. The only problem is the RNC is comprised of out-of-touch elites who are full-bore FYGM. Well anyway, I've marched with socialists, I voted for Bernie, my conscience is clean. No war but class war.
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Lightning Knight posted:I am the light skinned Hispanic. I'm already a white dude. This is why I said this would happen. Jesus Christ gently caress FYGMism among minority groups, it's so awful. We're losing dozens of species a day, I don't know if mass acceleration is even possible.
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chumbler posted:So while the climate and environment are clearly toast, we're headed to massive debt and an even worse recession, Russia conquering Europe and China conquering SE Asia, and voting rights burned, how would they go about challenging Roe v Wade (aside from TRAP laws) and Obergfell? Obviously they will try anything and everything, but I don't immediately see a clear way a case that challenges them could come up from the lower courts. AFAIK there isn't really one.
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C2C - 2.0 posted:"Why" would probably be my first question. deadly_pudding posted:Which progressive SCOTUS decision are you salty about?
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Trabisnikof posted:For those of you playing at home, this means the Bundys win. They will get to take our public land and and make it theirs, potentially for free. Same for mining companies, ranchers, loggers etc. 
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Lightning Knight posted:The entire narrative of demographic change saving the country was false. who is 'they'?
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greatn posted:We're losing dozens of species a day, I don't know if mass acceleration is even possible. Do you really have to ask?  quote:First to graduate from my family with a college education, son of two parents without degrees. Watching the community around me crumbling to dirt as jobs are continuously being sent out of State. Any incentive on increasing tariffs from products that were once made here is a great thing. I'm sorry to be the one to inform you that trade deals will still be signed (worse deals now) and no tariffs will be raised. The Republican congress still has final say on those things.
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achillesforever6 posted:Goddamn it why is it so hard for Democrats to be obstructive, gently caress trying to set an example, take every opportunity to ratfuck and backstab and gouge out their eyes. Because then they'd be the GOP. e: people argue that conservative politics is about racism, but I don't really believe that any more. It's about nihilism. It's about winning the argument, tearing people down and punishing those who stand against you. The problem with democrats is that they have faith in people and believe the system works, so they don't have temper tantrums and government shutdowns, they don't hold off on judicial nominees and you will not see a bunch of congressional Dems holding investigations into Trumps legitimacy... As much as it may feel good to make the other side suffer as much as they caused, it won't happen because if they did that poo poo they'd be just as bad. kzin602 fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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So what are we looking at here in terms of appointments Department of Education -- ????????? Health and Human Services -- Bobby Jindal Enviromental Protection Agency -- ????? Secretary of State --- Newt Gingrich ( who should be in charge of NASA) Attorney General -- Rudy Giuliiani What else?
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Unormal posted:Heh, Florida literally sunk itself by voting in Trump It's mostly Miami that's hosed in this situation, so the rest of red florida basically doesn't care.
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treu posted:What do you even want to know? I went Kerry - Obama - Obama - Trump. So when in the last four years did you have a traumatic brain injury?
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Lightning Knight posted:Do you really have to ask? Trump insulted a lot of them though. I guess that makes it more likely nothing happens on that front.
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chumbler posted:So while the climate and environment are clearly toast, we're headed to massive debt and an even worse recession, Russia conquering Europe and China conquering SE Asia, and voting rights burned, how would they go about challenging Roe v Wade (aside from TRAP laws) and Obergfell? Obviously they will try anything and everything, but I don't immediately see a clear way a case that challenges them could come up from the lower courts. Obergfell v. Hodges is easy. You have a marriage clerk or probate judge refuse to issue marriage licenses to gay couples, and then have that state's AG appeal the inevitable lower court rulings against up to SCOTUS. The only thing though is that Obergfell was ruled 5-4 while Scalia was still alive, so simply filling his seat with a conservative justice wouldn't suffice. We'd also have to lose a sitting liberal justice to swing the court. Roe v. Wade would just be a matter of conservative states getting cheeky and pushing more and more restrictive abortion laws until somebody finally sued them, at which point it could get appealed up to SCOTUS.
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Hollismason posted:So what are we looking at here in terms of appointments DOEd and EPA will be abolished.
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JawKnee posted:who is 'they'? The Republican Party. They'll finagle platforms that legitimize some Latin American groups while still making GBS threads on illegal immigrants. Many second generation Mexican immigrants who were born or raised here don't give a poo poo about illegal immigration either. There's a lot of animosity between Hispanic groups and against Asians and black people for the Republican Party to take advantage of.
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What's going to happen with Trump's businesses? He talked about how he was going to put them in a "blind trust" by letting his children run them, which isn't putting them in a blind trust at all. If you want corruption then boy howdy, Trump is 100% the type to just obliquely do favors and quid-pro-quos right out in the open and just look at you confused if you try to claim it's a conflict of interest. At the very least I can't imagine the Next President Of The United States will go bankrupt, for all the business he's lost over the election a bunch of people are probably going to be looking to buy in now. When you visit the U.S. you can stay in the President's hotels and gamble in his casinos. Maybe Trump'll get that DC hotel of his finished and have his guests stay there when they visit the White House.
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Lightning Knight posted:Do you really have to ask? And when that happens I don't cast my next ballot for them. What is so hard to understand here?
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corn in the bible posted:would trump have had as much success riling up disaffected voters? This isn't a real thing that happened. The statistical reality is that Trump got the barest dregs of republican duty voters, and a bunch of loons who overlap with that category anyway. He didn't rile poo poo, so stop trying to play like he did. Trump won because democrats didn't bother voting fullstop. The reasons for that are debatable, but the fact of it is not.
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America just turned into Kansas but with a lying mafia don in charge. You are hosed for the next 40 years,
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Hollismason posted:So what are we looking at here in terms of appointments So exorcism is back on the table? Good!
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treu posted:First to graduate from my family with a college education, son of two parents without degrees. Watching the community around me crumbling to dirt as jobs are continuously being sent out of State. Any incentive on increasing tariffs from products that were once made here is a great thing. quote:None of them. I am fine with the direction SCOTUS was heading.
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chumbler posted:DOEd and EPA will be abolished. Does Trump have the power to do that unilaterally, or does it have to go through congress?
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treu posted:First to graduate from my family with a college education, son of two parents without degrees. Watching the community around me crumbling to dirt as jobs are continuously being sent out of State. Any incentive on increasing tariffs from products that were once made here is a great thing. Trump will do literally nothing to bring those jobs here, and in fact will almost certainly protect companies shipping more jobs overseas. So great job, dumbass.
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Lightning Knight posted:My bet is actually Plessy v Ferguson. Brown was my optimistic guess. But yeah that's also true, say hello to the death of science and history education in America. They'll make you teach Loose Change  (the 9/11 inside job conspiracy vid)
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Democrats may or may not have a strong bench in the next election. Bad poo poo Trump and his cronies do may or may not have terrible effects in the long term and could realistically be overturned. The effect Trump will have on the Supreme Court, however, is something I feel will have very long lasting damage to the nation- and we'll be stuck with its legacy for generations.
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Lightning Knight posted:Depending on SC outcomes it'll be farther back than the '80s. Unless you're Syrian or Lebanese, we don't want you for some reason.
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Actually, Ben Carson will be definitely getting a appointment , but I dunno if he's gonna get Surgeon General ( which I think will happen) or HHS.
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Schizotek posted:This isn't a real thing that happened. The statistical reality is that Trump got the barest dregs of republican duty voters, and a bunch of loons who overlap with that category anyway. He didn't rile poo poo, so stop trying to play like he did. Trump won because democrats didn't bother voting fullstop. The reasons for that are debatable, but the fact of it is not. It's weird that there doesn't seem to be a link between the people getting the Bad Poster av. We're a pretty diverse bunch, opinion-wise
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chumbler posted:So while the climate and environment are clearly toast, we're headed to massive debt and an even worse recession, Russia conquering Europe and China conquering SE Asia, and voting rights burned, how would they go about challenging Roe v Wade (aside from TRAP laws) and Obergfell? Obviously they will try anything and everything, but I don't immediately see a clear way a case that challenges them could come up from the lower courts. what you would do is have a state or the federal legislature pass some new law that restricts abortion or gay marriage. then that law can be tried in court and scotus can find for the state, legitimizing it and overturning past precedent. there's other ways you could do it as well.
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