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OWLS! posted:Fortunately, said president-elect has the consistency of mashed potatoes, and is more flipfloppy than my flipflops. He could say that the america would blow up the moon tomorrow, and I would be completely unsurprised. Chances of it actually happening though? If you read my post, I flat out stated I didn't think it was going to happen. On the other hand, it's disingenuous to just assume that Trump isn't going to at least try to do some of the crazy poo poo he promised. BarbarianElephant posted:Obama didn't run on a platform of taking guns from gun owners. In fact, he denied it. Trump did run on a platform of taking away Obamacare. The two things aren't even remotely equivalent. Apparently Trump voters have a problem with logic. All the things in Trump's platform they like, he will do. All the things they don't like, he will not do. I know. My post was more to point out that anyone trying to draw equivalency between the fears of Republicans in the wake of Obama's election and the fears of Democrats in the wake of Trump's election is being intellectually dishonest. Case in point: spacetoaster posted:They were saying the same stupid crap Democrats are saying right now.
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Trabisnikof posted:Nah I'm more worried when he's spouting crazy conservative poo poo I've heard before. That means some interest group will yes-man him and congress into doing it. Congress and the potential cabinet. Dick Cheney 2.0 here we come.
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Ornamented Death posted:If you read my post, I flat out stated I didn't think it was going to happen. On the other hand, it's disingenuous to just assume that Trump isn't going to at least try to do some of the crazy poo poo he promised. Apologies. (What can I do, I live for the schadenfreude, don't really much care who's producing it.) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I was agreeing with you OrnamentedDeath.
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Well I'm still alive. Thanks to some of you for the kind words
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OWLS! posted:Hey, can you tell me, how many died in the mass fema camps? I don't know anything about that, but I know 88 people all died in one go during the last mass deportation https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-anything-but/
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BarbarianElephant posted:I was agreeing with you OrnamentedDeath. I know, I was just fleshing out my point a bit more.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Well I'm still alive. Thanks to some of you for the kind words Glad to hear it. Was unironically worried about you.
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treu posted:You asked a blanket question to share research pertaining to no subject in particular. Be more specific and I'd try to answer it. There is a time commitment involved, I don't have the free time to defend myself against non-stop internet warriors asking vague questions. Okay, perhaps just those pieces pertaining to Trump definitively attacking globalism in such a way that isn't undermined by his own behavior with respect to his business ventures? e: I mean, you understand I can only take you at your word that such evidence exists, and that you actually did the research you claim, yes? And I don't know you from Adam, friend.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Well I'm still alive. Thanks to some of you for the kind words Good. Stay Strong.
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OWLS! posted:Apologies. I'd assume this guy was a troll but actually he's pretty typical for the alt right and most of the Trumper Youth. They really do think they are cool dudes who don't care about anything while the pathetic nerds are running around like headless chickens as their country is destroyed.
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Ice Phisherman posted:The democrats are going to have to clean some rust off that rust belt. We have to take care of our own before we can push our social issues again. We can't just expect these people to vote D reliably anymore. We actually have to solve their problems. Thanks, this was a very enlightening post. Before reading it I found it hard to imagine people brushing off issues which I considered the most important, but I guess social progressive issues have to come after more basic needs are taken care of.
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Ornamented Death posted:Case in point: I'm glad of it. 
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BarbarianElephant posted:I'd assume this guy was a troll but actually he's pretty typical for the alt right and most of the Trumper Youth. They really do think they are cool dudes who don't care about anything while the pathetic nerds are running around like headless chickens as their country is destroyed. Dude, if you think I voted for trump you're high. He's a despicable human being, and we need to find comedy for the next four years to deal with it. Hyperventilating, and offing ourselves isn't going to help the situation, yknow?
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Why the gently caress are you people not taking Trump at his word on what he wants to do as President? We've been through this poo poo over and over again Trump won't run Trump's not gonna win a single state This is just a stunt, he's gonna drop out Trump can't be the Republican nominee Trump's gonna blow up before election day Trump can't win and now Trump's not going to actually do the things he said he would Donald Trump is president. The same Donald Trump that ran for election.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Why the gently caress are you people not taking Trump at his word on what he wants to do as President? We've been through this poo poo over and over again So Mexico will pay for the wall?
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Guy Goodbody posted:
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OWLS! posted:Apologies. What a great reason to live for. Glad youre proud of it.
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Trabisnikof posted:So Mexico will pay for the wall? I am fully convinced Trump will find a way to convince his supporters that he got this one done despite reality
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Guy Goodbody posted:Donald Trump is president. The same Donald Trump that ran for election. Just to be clear, you believe Donald Trump and the Republicans are going to build a wall, from coast to coast, along the Mexican border?
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Trabisnikof posted:So Mexico will pay for the wall? I don't think anyone is arguing he'll be successful, but denying he's going to try some (or all) of the crazy poo poo is bonkers.
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treu posted:I don't disagree that climate change is an issue. However, you can argue what to focus on. Something that is currently killing your quality of life and has been for the past decade, or something that will kill your quality of life in the next decade. Before you go, I just wanted to say, from one Michigoon to another: gently caress you, you selfish prick. You make me ashamed of my state.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Why the gently caress are you people not taking Trump at his word on what he wants to do as President? We've been through this poo poo over and over again The best we can hope for is the people around him manage to convince him he really meant X when he said Y. But then I look at the people around him and that possibility is no less terrifying.
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Not only will Trump attempt to do the things he said he would but he will succeed, because the voters handed him control of the entire US government. No checks or balances.
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OWLS! posted:TBPH, I'm sort of hoping that the russian honeymoon lasts until the inauguration and then we all die in a nuclear hellfire. Death is certain... ly going to be a relief.
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Sen. Tom Cotton just said on CNN that waterboarding isn't torture because we have done it to our own troops and radio dj's have volunteered to experience it.
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He 100% will try to build a wall.
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Phyein posted:What a great reason to live for. Glad youre proud of it. Trump was most definitely not an option for me, neither was Hillary, (and Bernie didn't make it past the primaries). So hey, I'll go vote Johnson, and extract as much comedy from the resulting explosion either on the right or on the left. This seems to be panning out so far.
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JawKnee posted:Just to be clear, you believe Donald Trump and the Republicans are going to build a wall, from coast to coast, along the Mexican border? Even Trump was compromising on that towards the end of the campaign when someone pointed out there are already natural obstacles along some parts of the border But I guarantee you, there will be a wall built on some length of the border during Trump's presidency.
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Shifty Pony posted:The best we can hope for is the people around him manage to convince him he really meant X when he said Y. They want the same things he does. He's also highly manipulable so they will use this opportunity to push through their own pet evil schemes.
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Hollismason posted:He 100% will try to build a wall. The question is not whether he will try, politicians in every country attempt to do stupid things, the question is whether he will succeed
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So. What the hell do we do now if we want some chance in hell of reversing the coming Trumpster fire of the next two-eight years? I mean, I live in Florida, so the local DNC is already a shambles, but there's got to be some way to help fix this.
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OWLS! posted:Trump was most definitely not an option for me, neither was Hillary, (and Bernie didn't make it past the primaries). So hey, I'll go vote Johnson, and extract as much comedy from the resulting explosion either on the right or on the left. This seems to be panning out so far. I see this ending well for you in the long run.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Even Trump was compromising on that towards the end of the campaign when someone pointed out there are already natural obstacles along some parts of the border Are there not already? This becomes a significantly different promise with that caveat.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Even Trump was compromising on that towards the end of the campaign when someone pointed out there are already natural obstacles along some parts of the border We already have a wall, don't we? Well it's more of a chain link fence, but that's close enough, right? Hollismason posted:I kind of wonder if he will implement a media control plan similar to Putin. In which case I get to actually get off my rear end and live out my fantasy of becoming DJ Professor K from Jet Set Radio
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I feel like this needs to be on every page of the thread : If you are expecting congressional Republicans to be a sane, level-headed check on executive power, you are a moron.
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Crowsbeak posted:But I in the hypothetical situation remember losing that jo and my friends losing their jobs to NAFTa why do I vote for the white fe of the architects? Hillary Clinton was not married to George HW Bush: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-12-18/news/1992353055_1_treaty-renegotiate-clinton
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Mulva posted:I see this ending well for you in the long run. This ends poorly, for everybody. Might as well enjoy the ride.
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Hollismason posted:I kind of wonder if he will implement a media control plan similar to Putin. What, assassinate journalists until they are so scared they print whatever he wants?
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