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stevewm
May 10, 2005

moonsour posted:

Is the interchange negotiable? My company doesn't take loan payoffs because it costs too much in fees because even if it's 3%, 3% of 10k is apparently too much for a guaranteed paid off loan.

Unless you are a very large retailer and process millions of transactions a month, not likely. I know there was a major spat between Walmart and Mastercard some years ago because Mastercard wanted Walmart to pay close to the same interchange as everyone else, and of course Walmart was having none of it.


Its likely much more than 3... Your processor may charge 2-3% for each transaction, and then you end up paying another 2%-3% for interchange (depending on type of card). Actual could be 5-6%.

stevewm fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Nov 9, 2016

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sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007
Either my boss has reached new levels of dumb or I'm being trolled.

Yesterday, after lunch:
"Where were you?"
"I was voting, as I let you know I would be in my email this morning."
"Where's your sticker?"
"They were out."
"It's only 2:30. Can you go back and get one?"
"You want me to get you a voting sticker?"
"I want proof you were there and not goofing off."
"So you want me to go back and stand in line for another hour as proof I went there earlier? What does that prove about earlier?"
"Fine, forget it."

Today:
"So, who did you vote for?"
"Doesn't matter, Trump won. Somehow."
"Oh, so you voted for :smug: Shillary?"
"I sure as poo poo didn't vote for Trump."
"Well, either way, you wasted your vote. I don't want you to take work time to do this voting thing next year."
(Uh...) "You got it." (Like I'll still be here next election cycle anyway.)

vibur
Apr 23, 2004

sfwarlock posted:

"So, who did you vote for?"
"Doesn't matter, Trump won. Somehow."
"Oh, so you voted for :smug: Shillary?"
"I sure as poo poo didn't vote for Trump."
"Well, either way, you wasted your vote. I don't want you to take work time to do this voting thing next year."
(Uh...) "You got it." (Like I'll still be here next election cycle anyway.)
"...and I don't want you to take work time to needle me about politics in case mine don't match up with the way you think things ought to be but here we are."

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



sfwarlock posted:

"Well, either way, you wasted your vote. I don't want you to take work time to do this voting thing next year."

Not legal

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Just pile it on top of the mountain of other things the US has hosed up: no national standard for allowing workers to go vote. Many states have employee favoring laws but many do not, and still others are in a lovely middle ground where you have to give prior notice to your boss or similar bullcrap.

All that hand wringing about GOTTA GO VOTE!!! every fall and no one thinks to make it a guaranteed right.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.



If he left his place of work to vote sure it is. They don't have to let you leave your scheduled shift to vote. You can vote before or after work. I mean if you work 30 minutes or more away that's an hour of travel.

The real problem is that it isn't a national holiday.

moonsour
Feb 13, 2007

Ortowned
My employer sent out an email stating that we should all have plenty of time to vote before or after work so they won't be allowing leave to do it during our shift.

It was sent to our internal-only email.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

pixaal posted:

If he left his place of work to vote sure it is. They don't have to let you leave your scheduled shift to vote. You can vote before or after work. I mean if you work 30 minutes or more away that's an hour of travel.

The real problem is that it isn't a national holiday.

If it was a national holiday a lot of polling places would be closed and unable to accommodate voting public.

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007

pixaal posted:

If he left his place of work to vote sure it is. They don't have to let you leave your scheduled shift to vote. You can vote before or after work. I mean if you work 30 minutes or more away that's an hour of travel.

The real problem is that it isn't a national holiday.

Without touching on the legality of it, he didn't tell me not to. He just expressed that he didn't want me to, implying future subtle retaliation. That's the way this motherfucker works, everything Teflons off of him, which is why I'm looking for a new job.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003



Depends on the state in the US. Roughly half the states require employers allow their employees to take time off to vote. Roughly half of those require employers to pay for that time.

http://www.findlaw.com/voting-rights-law.html

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The problem is already solved, just need the federal government to take the template that most states use ("two hours off work unless you already have two hours of off duty time during the polling period") and apply it to everyone. Bam, done.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


xzzy posted:

The problem is already solved, just need the federal government to take the template that most states use ("two hours off work unless you already have two hours of off duty time during the polling period") and apply it to everyone. Bam, done.

That's pretty drat fair, I think most states you'd have to be working a 10-12 hour day to not be able to vote even without this though.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

sfwarlock posted:

"Well, either way, you wasted your vote. I don't want you to take work time to do this voting thing next year."
(Uh...) "You got it." (Like I'll still be here next election cycle anyway.)

As someone else said, this is highly illegal, I (believe) all states have a requirement of at least 2 hours for voting time, some are more... I could pull up my excel document that has all that info, but I'm too lazy.

*edit* I was incorrect, out of the 30 states I had to deal with, 20 have mandatory 2 hours (or more) of voting time, and about 15 of those require the time to be paid.

MF_James fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Nov 9, 2016

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



You would think that an event that affects the whole nation would be treated the same way by the whole nation. 'Murica.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Jerk McJerkface posted:

Way to convince me not to quit, telling me the company is failing and not profitable and has been so for years.
I hope you told him this.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

xzzy posted:

The problem is already solved, just need the federal government to take the template that most states use ("two hours off work unless you already have two hours of off duty time during the polling period") and apply it to everyone. Bam, done.

Or do it the way a few states, like mine, do: vote by mail. State mails every goddamn registered voter a ballot weeks ahead of time and says "get it sent by this date." Fill out the ballot when it's convenient, no lines, no taking time off work. Costs you a stamp instead of hours of your life waiting in line.

Of course there's going to be no traction on any laws or policies that improve overall voter turnout in the near future, since it's in the interests of the controlling government to keep it difficult to vote for people who currently have difficulty voting.


Inspector_666 posted:

Thankfully their beer is bad, so this isn't much of a sacrifice.

It's not just the beer. Their brewpub in Portland is literally surrounded by other brewpubs with much better food, seating and atmosphere. My workplace takes us out to one of these places occasionally, and we've gone to Rogue only when we timed it poorly and every other place in the area was so jammed that we couldn't get a table that would accommodate our group.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Che Delilas posted:

Or do it the way a few states, like mine, do: vote by mail. State mails every goddamn registered voter a ballot weeks ahead of time and says "get it sent by this date." Fill out the ballot when it's convenient, no lines, no taking time off work. Costs you a stamp instead of hours of your life waiting in line.

I'm less likely to vote this way than I am to vote at a polling place in person. Who the gently caress has stamps at home anymore? I'm not 70.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

The Fool posted:

I'm less likely to vote this way than I am to vote at a polling place in person. Who the gently caress has stamps at home anymore? I'm not 70.

In my county in Colorado you don't need to stamp it, just drop it in any mailbox. Or the dropboxes setup for ballots. Or bring it to a poling center.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

uh yeah the gov't can give you a loving postcard or whatever that is prepaid, since they control the mail system...

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Moey posted:

In my county in Colorado you don't need to stamp it, just drop it in any mailbox. Or the dropboxes setup for ballots. Or bring it to a poling center.
In Oregon they have special voting drop-off boxes that aren't for mail and afaik don't require a stamp

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I have no experience with any vote by mail systems, and was just going off of whosits reference to the cost of a stamp.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

They don't give you stamps to file taxes so I don't know why they'd give stamps or postcards to vote.

It's 34 measly cents, I think we can afford it.

Plus once they go to mail in voting, online voting will be right behind it. Yes it would be better to leap right into that bold new future, but baby steps are better than no steps.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Polio Vax Scene posted:

You would think that an event that affects the whole nation would be treated the same way by the whole nation. 'Murica.

One of the theoretical benefits of the amount of autonomy our states have is the "laboratories of democracy" idea, where states can individually try different things and see how they work out without impacting the whole country, then the rest can learn from that and if necessary tweak things to fit their local needs and wants.

In practice we end up with two or three major categories of solutions to any given problem implemented in 50 slightly different ways, never harmonizing unless forced to.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

Collateral Damage posted:

I hope you told him this.

I just raised my eyebrows and told myself "remember the expenses. Remember the expenses".

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Judge Schnoopy posted:

If it was a national holiday a lot of polling places would be closed and unable to accommodate voting public.

In our country we hold elections on a Saturday. We have polling stations in nearly every church hall, school, public hall and any other similar place all staffed by people from the electoral commission. Also they tend to take over an empty retail space in shopping malls etc. I have never had to wait longer than about 5-10 minutes to vote.
All on paper ballots and we usually get the result by about 11pm on Election Day. It is always amazing how much the US is able to gently caress it up.

Judge Schnoopy
Nov 2, 2005

dont even TRY it, pal

Varkk posted:

In our country we hold elections on a Saturday. We have polling stations in nearly every church hall, school, public hall and any other similar place all staffed by people from the electoral commission. Also they tend to take over an empty retail space in shopping malls etc. I have never had to wait longer than about 5-10 minutes to vote.
All on paper ballots and we usually get the result by about 11pm on Election Day. It is always amazing how much the US is able to gently caress it up.

Does your country organize 70 million people voting on the same day? Not saying Saturday is a bad idea, I think it's definitely reasonable to move to a Saturday and organize the manpower necessary to open school gyms for polling locations. But if it's a national holiday good luck getting unions to agree to pay facility managers / janitors / security / support staff time and a half or better to keep public facilities open.

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

There's an easier solution: make the election last over three days including a weekend day, and make it a federal felony not to vote.

e. there would probably need to be a None Of The Above on the ballot to satisfy First Amendment requirements in that case.

rndmnmbr fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Nov 10, 2016

captaingimpy
Aug 3, 2004

I luv me some pirate booty, and I'm not talkin' about the gold!
Fun Shoe
If you're in a state that felons can't vote, does that mean you get a new one every other year?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


sfwarlock posted:

Today:
"So, who did you vote for?"
"Doesn't matter, Trump won. Somehow."
"Oh, so you voted for :smug: Shillary?"
"I sure as poo poo didn't vote for Trump."
"Well, either way, you wasted your vote. I don't want you to take work time to do this voting thing next year."
(Uh...) "You got it." (Like I'll still be here next election cycle anyway.)

And here I was thinking it WAS a public holiday for you guys...Our government gets around it by making voting day on a weekend.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

Judge Schnoopy posted:

If it was a national holiday a lot of polling places would be closed and unable to accommodate voting public.

Varkk posted:

In our country we hold elections on a Saturday. We have polling stations in nearly every church hall, school, public hall and any other similar place all staffed by people from the electoral commission. Also they tend to take over an empty retail space in shopping malls etc. I have never had to wait longer than about 5-10 minutes to vote.
All on paper ballots and we usually get the result by about 11pm on Election Day. It is always amazing how much the US is able to gently caress it up.

Judge Schnoopy posted:

Does your country organize 70 million people voting on the same day? Not saying Saturday is a bad idea, I think it's definitely reasonable to move to a Saturday and organize the manpower necessary to open school gyms for polling locations. But if it's a national holiday good luck getting unions to agree to pay facility managers / janitors / security / support staff time and a half or better to keep public facilities open.

Why does :siren: American Exceptionalism :siren: only ever get applied to "we can't do this simple and good thing that other countries do because :endless fountain of tears" situations?

You sent people to the loving moon and back. If you can't organise corralling people for one day every four years then it's because you suck, not because it's some kind of impossible undertaking that has never ever ever been attempted before in the history of human, neanderthal, and dinosaur civilisation.

I bet if the task was "pay people to stop poors from voting" or "send the military to the other side of the world to depose a head of state and steal a country's oil" then you'd find a way to git 'r done.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Let's shut the gently caress up about elections/politics and go back to our stupid jobs and stupid co-workers

I found out today my CFO and one of the department managers have been having email conversations with some Chinese scammers "so we don't lose our name"

Email that got this all started?


Hi, I am Matthew Zhou. We had discussed the case about disputing your company's domain names and Brand name. You have never registered these domain names and Brand name, and I had told you that the domain name registration is open. The dispute period will come soon. If your company does not register these domain names and Brand name, we will finish aforesaid company registration within 2 workdays. that company will become the legal owner of these domain names in the world. We had notified you, so we are not responsible for any dispute question about your intellectual property right and trademark after they succeed in registration. If you have any questions, pls contact us within 2 workdays.

Best Regards

Matthew Zhou
Manager of Registration department
Address:No. 68 FuNan Road,Hefei 230000,China
Tel: (+86) 0739-5266069
Fax:(+86) 0739-5266069



:argh:

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Bob Morales posted:

Let's shut the gently caress up about elections/politics and go back to our stupid jobs and stupid co-workers

I found out today my CFO and one of the department managers have been having email conversations with some Chinese scammers "so we don't lose our name"

Email that got this all started?


Hi, I am Matthew Zhou. We had discussed the case about disputing your company's domain names and Brand name. You have never registered these domain names and Brand name, and I had told you that the domain name registration is open. The dispute period will come soon. If your company does not register these domain names and Brand name, we will finish aforesaid company registration within 2 workdays. that company will become the legal owner of these domain names in the world. We had notified you, so we are not responsible for any dispute question about your intellectual property right and trademark after they succeed in registration. If you have any questions, pls contact us within 2 workdays.

Best Regards

Matthew Zhou
Manager of Registration department
Address:No. 68 FuNan Road,Hefei 230000,China
Tel: (+86) 0739-5266069
Fax:(+86) 0739-5266069



:argh:

Does your company not have a lawyer? Or a phone book in which to get a list of names that can provide legal services?

Alternatively, what are my odds of getting money if I send an invoice?

Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 13:57 on Nov 10, 2016

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

flosofl posted:

Does your company not have a lawyer? Or a phone book in which to get a list of names that can provide legal services?

Alternatively, what are my odds of getting money if I send an invoice?

Just hurt yourself with one of our products and sue us for < $50,000 and we'll pay out :ssh:

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

Bob Morales posted:

Just hurt yourself with one of our products and sue us for < $50,000 and we'll pay out :ssh:

Finding out who you work for sounds easy enough for 25000 $

Gunjin
Apr 27, 2004

Om nom nom

Weatherman posted:

Why does :siren: American Exceptionalism :siren: only ever get applied to "we can't do this simple and good thing that other countries do because :endless fountain of tears" situations?

You sent people to the loving moon and back. If you can't organise corralling people for one day every four years then it's because you suck, not because it's some kind of impossible undertaking that has never ever ever been attempted before in the history of human, neanderthal, and dinosaur civilisation.

I bet if the task was "pay people to stop poors from voting" or "send the military to the other side of the world to depose a head of state and steal a country's oil" then you'd find a way to git 'r done.

You need to look at the numbers involved here. The most recent numbers show that about 129.7 million people voted in this election, that's the equivalent of the 10th largest country in the world, double the population of the UK, in a land mass thats approximately 16x larger than France all doing one thing in a ~12ish hour window on one day. It's not just as easy as saying, hey lets change how we do it next time, it's pretty amazing it goes as well as it does now.

stevewm
May 10, 2005
:mad: Updated some of our stores to the newest paint matching software version.. The new installer for this software for reasons unknown disables UAC.

Why the hell they are doing this I have no idea. Their software has never required admin to run, has never caused UAC prompts, and only writes to user accessible areas.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

This is an actual powerpoint slide they showed at a company meeting

Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
We can make Kool-Aid for you, but we cannot force you to drink it.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Just waiting for some godless :btroll: to sue the gently caress out of us

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pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


:byodame: This phone number isn't working! I've tried to call this customer every day this week and it fails! Rings twice than busy signal! Called on my cellphone today and it worked!
:) okay let me get the number

she argues a bit and finally gives me the number.

:phone: Hello this is *
:phoneb: This is IT with %company% I had a report that this number wasn't working from our end, it appears to be working now
:phone: okay? Can I help you?
:phoneb: Everything is working, thank you for your time.

Really god drat awkward conversation, I was expecting a phone tree not a 1 ring pickup.

:) It's working from my phone
:byodame: must be my line!
:) Okay let's test it
:byodame: I'm busy now!

She is clearly on facebook, and has the exact same restrictions I do. I kind of want to pull up her call history but it wont any good since she wont do anything. She's a crabby old lady that every knows bullshits everything and building a case will just get her more hostile towards IT. She's pretty much untouchable since she's the only person who understands a few software packages and wont train anyone.

Big tower of blaming IT for not calling a customer if I didn't make a show of it's now working fine magically she'd be CCIng 12 people and asking for the ticket number and an ETA on the fix. I hate playing her bullshit games. At least no one believes them.

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