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Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Homework Explainer posted:

sam kriss did this with brexit yet for some reason is still taken seriously

Terminal stupid

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Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
We kicked out the crazed bernie supporters because you guys wouldn't stop producing flamewars in every thread you existed in. We kept plenty of bernie supporters, and actually I think the C-SPAM moderation team (IKs and mods) are majority bernie supporters.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Smythe posted:

Beyond wrong. The onus is on the candidate to bring out the vote. To galvanize the people. Hillary, her campaign staff and strategy, and the entire DNC utterly failed and need to be brutally and mercilessly destroyed. Their failure has cost this country dearly. gently caress you.

Babies like you are the kind of people who dump your boyfriend because he doesn't "inspire you". Yeah, obviously Hillary wanted to be president. But you know what? She's a loving multimillionaire. She's going to be OK. Do you know who's not going to be OK? The poor who thought the Donald J Trump would ever, ever help them.

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

ThndrShk2k posted:

He did once already with abuela, he'll do it again as Trump wants to make deals and make america great again.
Already did it, sort of

quote:

Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders agree on one thing, and it has nothing to do with their opinion of Hillary Clinton -- they both want the Justice Department to block AT&T's proposed $85 billion merger with Time Warner.

Trump announced his opposition almost before the deal was signed, telling a crowd in Gettysburg, Pa., last weekend that if he's elected, he will block the transaction.

Now Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) says he agrees. In a letter to the Justice Department, Sanders says the deal "represents a gross concentration of power that runs counter to the public good."
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/sanders-joins-trump-in-opposing-atttime-warner-merger-102816.html

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Smythe posted:

Beyond wrong. The onus is on the candidate to bring out the vote. To galvanize the people. Hillary, her campaign staff and strategy, and the entire DNC utterly failed and need to be brutally and mercilessly destroyed. Their failure has cost this country dearly. gently caress you.

I can't blame Clinton's machine totally. Everyone had bad data that showed them ahead. If you think you're leading the whole time you don't even know what you're supposed to adjust or even that you have to adjust.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Pomp posted:

Terminal stupid
This is pretty good though https://samkriss.com/2016/11/09/how-you-lost-the-world/

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Pick posted:

I am still not disappointed and Hillary. I'm disappointed in the voters.

Women, you hosed up. Latinos, you hosed up. Blue-collar workers, you hosed up. African-Americans, you hosed up. You need to shoe the gently caress up, and you need to know we were actually voting for. not a single demographic fail to be a disappointment.

Glad to see "Hillary can not fail, she can only be failed" is alive and well.

Smythe
Oct 12, 2003

Pick posted:

Babies like you are the kind of people who dump your boyfriend because he doesn't "inspire you". Yeah, obviously Hillary wanted to be president. But you know what? She's a loving multimillionaire. She's going to be OK. Do you know who's not going to be OK? The poor who thought the Donald J Trump would ever, ever help them.

What the gently caress are you talking about?

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Pick posted:

Babies like you are the kind of people who dump your boyfriend because he doesn't "inspire you".
Bad breakup, huh?

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Vladimir Putin posted:

I can't blame Clinton's machine totally. Everyone had bad data that showed them ahead. If you think you're leading the whole time you don't even know what you're supposed to adjust or even that you have to adjust.

And hell, trumps machine thought that they were behind too. Conway was already blaming everyone else before the polls even closed.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

yo ZDR if you're reading this thread please make everyone that gets out of their Hillary toxx have this as a gang tag:

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
The poll data failed. All meaningful metrics of data failed. The only metric that saw this coming was this ear-to-the-ground highly anecdotal evidence that floated around, and that is functionally indistinguishable from your standard echochamber-repeat.

I still trust polls and data collection. It will simply adjust to compensate for the new reality.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
lets all take some time to cool off and then fight back

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Thoguh posted:

Glad to see "Hillary can not fail, she can only be failed" is alive and well.

Hillary's campaign was garbage, but ultimately it's more our loss than hers

Luceid
Jan 20, 2005

Buy some freaking medicine.

Pick posted:

I am still not disappointed and Hillary. I'm disappointed in the voters.

Women, you hosed up. Latinos, you hosed up. Blue-collar workers, you hosed up. African-Americans, you hosed up. You need to shoe the gently caress up, and you need to know we were actually voting for. not a single demographic fail to be a disappointment.

the entire point of a candidate is to get people to vote for them. if they can't do that, they're doing a bad job tbh

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/gzornick/status/796495369408544768

God help us all.

Dogstoyevsky
Oct 9, 2012

If there is no Dog, everything is permitted
Barack Obama -> Donald Trump nice loving job team

ThndrShk2k
Nov 3, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bread Liar
Hahahaha nice.

No-confidence spoiled more than 3rd party.

ClassActionFursuit
Mar 15, 2006

Smythe posted:

Beyond wrong. The onus is on the candidate to bring out the vote. To galvanize the people. Hillary, her campaign staff and strategy, and the entire DNC utterly failed and need to be brutally and mercilessly destroyed. Their failure has cost this country dearly. gently caress you.

Just want to quote the only lesson to be learned here and one the Democrats will positively refuse to learn.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Smythe posted:

Beyond wrong. The onus is on the candidate to bring out the vote. To galvanize the people. Hillary, her campaign staff and strategy, and the entire DNC utterly failed and need to be brutally and mercilessly destroyed. Their failure has cost this country dearly. gently caress you.

*leans in* Wrong.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

Pick posted:

I am still not disappointed and Hillary. I'm disappointed in the voters.

Women, you hosed up. Latinos, you hosed up. Blue-collar workers, you hosed up. African-Americans, you hosed up. You need to shoe the gently caress up, and you need to know we were actually voting for. not a single demographic fail to be a disappointment.
"Hillary can't fail, only be failed."

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Is it too late to get a Sanders gangtag?

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Man how did Sanders become the loving hero in all this.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

That's pretty good though. Like it or not Trump is going to be president and if Bernie can still get some of his stuff enacted then that's a lot better than nothing.

Telephones
Apr 28, 2013

anime was right posted:

lets all take some time to cool off and then fight back

Yes but what is a meaningful way to get involved?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Luceid posted:

the entire point of a candidate is to get people to vote for them. if they can't do that, they're doing a bad job tbh

Yeah, it was a bad job and it sucked. But still, if you were in the desert, dying of thirst, and some person offers you a flask of hydroflouric acid, and the other offers you camel urine, you loving take the camel urine and you drink the loving camel urine

Life is loving camel urine!

Pick fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Nov 10, 2016

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

*c-spam cracks their knuckles*

hey buddy where you been

Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Thoguh posted:

That's pretty good though. Like it or not Trump is going to be president and if Bernie can still get some of his stuff enacted then that's a lot better than nothing.

That's exactly the right attitude for Sanders to take.

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
Who is the young Bernout that runs in 2020?

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Telephones posted:

Yes but what is a meaningful way to get involved?

find people who would make for good runs in 2018, support the poo poo out of them. get their name out in their districts and states.

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008


Vladimir Putin posted:

Man how did Sanders become the loving hero in all this.

uhhhh

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

GobiasIndustries posted:

Who is the young Bernout that runs in 2020?

keith ellison

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Vladimir Putin posted:

Man how did Sanders become the loving hero in all this.

by being a good person

Grey Fox
Jan 5, 2004

Vladimir Putin posted:

That's exactly the right attitude for Sanders to take.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
step 1: survive 2018
step 2: get ready for the most :stare: democratic primary in a lifetime

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog



there's a lot of poo poo trump believes / wants based on some random thought he had once and not based on gop talking points, and he's literally known for and prides himself on making deals and building things

i think people will be surprised by how much trump works with democrats on things like infrastructure spending

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





ThndrShk2k posted:

Hahahaha nice.

No-confidence spoiled more than 3rd party.

If EVERYONE who had voted for Stein had cast for Hillary instead she would have won Wisconsin and Michigan and still would have been short. She wouldn't have won Florida unless she took EVERY third party vote and like 25% of the Johnson protest votes, and getting Stein's votes in Penn would have left her like 20,000 votes short.

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Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

GrimGypsy posted:

Democrats(especially the Senate) need to make all the loving hay in the world with that Popular Vote win, though. Like, for the next four years.

And they need to start picking their 2020 guy/gal like, soon. Can't let two separate wings of the party keep growing independently of one another.

in a more civilized age, there would be talk of a "limited mandate"

just lol.

the right will enact their vision and stab the knives into the nation's various traitors, fully galvanized by their election by gerrymander-strengthened minority, and enabled to do it all in the name of the Real America that elected then.

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