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Pook Good Mook posted:Agreed, Obama let these people perform for his rallies but he didn't make them a loving centerpiece to the "show" that he pitched to the news networks to cover. They were incidental to the event, there to entice people to come jazz up the crowd for an extra hour while the candidate was traveling to the venue. I still think Obama's "star power" effect was ultimately not good tidings for politics. Politics should be dry and boring and in no way fun or interesting to watch. I mean it.
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GrimGypsy posted:lotsa protests in big cities right now its the biggest failure of the left in america that we have no leaders that drive these, and that these events will putter out in an impotent poof of smoke I wish I could be there but of course, I live in a deep red shithole
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scandals dont loving matter. trump was a rapist, he was a pathological liar, he stole like a kleptomaniac. but he neutralized them by convincing "neutrals" that they were on par with manufactured bullshit that were the clinton scandals. and he added on top a strong affirmative message, a Big Lie that he could repeat until people could delude themselves into thinking it was possible
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Pook Good Mook posted:Every Democrat needs to understand this. I wss just coming to post this: The 6,077,153 Democrats that sat this one out compared to 2012 can eat dog poo poo. Instead of voting against bigotry, populism, white nationalism, you sat and did nothing. Instead of being angry of the possibility of Trump being elected, you went "ho-hum Hillary is bad peepee poopoo", stepped aside and let fascism on in. This is more than a self-inflicted wound, this was willful ignorance of thinking everything was okay and that Trump was a passe joke. gently caress you, you shits.
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VirtualStranger posted:
It's funny because Trump is a billionaire who doesn't pay taxes, sends jobs to China, and avoids paying his employees and contractors whenever possible.
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Can I still blame white voters or no
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I do remember being mad that they stopped attacking the wall for being a stupid idea that wouldn't work. Pull that Trump clip of him saying "I dunno maybe they have a ladder...." but no, we tried to make it about ethics. Ethics, in the most FYGM dork zone west of England.
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Phi230 posted:its not even my idea So who do you think will inherit the Bernie torch? He can be the defacto leader for a time and spiritual leader after, but someone will have to take the "2020 nominee" spot.
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gently caress we cannot sit around and wait 40 years for demographic change to destroy the GOP we must do it now and we must do it fast
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euphronius posted:Can I still blame white voters or no I assume Hillary voted so yes
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Homework Explainer posted:by any objective measure zoux was the worst ik. i was second worst because my rule was arbitrary and capricious
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LOL don't worry my neighbor will vote for Hillary I can throw my vote away. gently caress
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NecroMonster posted:make the "death is certain wizard" the background image for c-spam please
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Looking forward to heading to America to report on the siege lines around Atlanta and the battles to force the passes of the Rockies.
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MysteriousStranger posted:Sanders needs to get the gently caress out of the Democratic party. He's offering economic policies that help the white working class, aka racists and bigots, at the expense of rich white social liberals. That's not tolerable anymore and anybody who supports that is just as bad as a Trump supporter. Populism is just as vile as racism and sexism and the enemy of social liberalism. Even worse, if we did get votes form it we'd be diluting minority votes with racist votes, anybody who advocates getting more white working votes is signing up with bigotry. If you want to keep losing elections because of the importance of being "right" be my guest. Identity politics and letting the perfect be the enemy of the good is choking liberalism. "A rising tide lifts all boats" may enable white working class voters to still hold less than ideal social views, but you know what, if it gets people like Obama elected that's fine by me.
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100 degrees Calcium posted:No more relying on celebrity endorsements and smug tweets. can we still play fight song
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GrimGypsy posted:So who do you think will inherit the Bernie torch? He can be the defacto leader for a time and spiritual leader after, but someone will have to take the "2020 nominee" spot. You should try Hillary again. It is her turn. Plus third times the charm.
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Astroclassicist posted:Looking forward to heading to America to report on the siege lines around Atlanta and the battles to force the passes of the Rockies. Lol it will be Nukes for ever
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GrimGypsy posted:So who do you think will inherit the Bernie torch? He can be the defacto leader for a time and spiritual leader after, but someone will have to take the "2020 nominee" spot. i really don't know Its 4 years. I doubt we will grow some fighting spirit and make our own tea party people are saying Gabbard but I don't think it'll work out. Maybe, maybe if our karma ripens and the gods are good then Bernie's torch will be passed and it'll catch but we need to WORK for it all these liberals and dems think that time is the great equalizer and its the biggest force in making us have no power or impact
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I don't really buy the idea that third party voters carry a notable amount of blame, but I do have one friend that professed that he voted for Gary Johnson because he thought Hillary Clinton would win anyway. He was more interested in making sure a libertarian, of all goddamn things, got 5% of the vote than actually y'know... responding to how voting actually works. Johnson didn't get 5% and Trump is President, so thanks, now we're all idiot fuckers.
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mormonpartyboat posted:can we still play fight song i'll allow it
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Phi230 posted:all you fuckin milk drinkers need to stop with the defeatist bullshit Wow Ok, you know what. DO IT! Come on, do it, grab your gun and shoot some nazi cops, it's for the good cause. You'll be showing them, you'll be showing them the absolute loving hypcrisy this country is about. We made fun of the right wing when they said they won't accept a Hillary win and they might go out in the street, but for us, it is our constitutional duty. They will NEVER listen to reason, even if their decisions would also cause their own ends, they are not human after all, they are dirty nazis, lower beings than loving monkeys. Do it, show them, that they were right all along, get killed on the street, become the martyr for the good cause, so Trump has all the excuse to turn this piece of poo poo country into a proper police state, ensuring his authority and giving the alt-right enough reason to rise up themselves and torch a bunch of buildings for the fun of it. DO IT! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Pook Good Mook posted:If you want to keep losing elections because of the importance of being "right" be my guest. I agree, and honestly liberalism this go-around had me, a loving annoying as poo poo super-liberal, still feeling like a secret blue dog. But thinking about where I am compared to the norm, did like 2% of the electorate really go for the "shaming tweet storm" tactic?? and think that would work?
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mannerup posted:dethroning a bush in the primary and a clinton in the general from february
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euphronius posted:How old is Bernie
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Phi230 posted:my point being that you gotta rise and make a loving ruckus that can't be ignored There is absolutely nothing standing in the way of progressives taking leadership of the dems right now except for the fact way to many have given up
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Imagine sandy hook or dylan roof happening and mr bing bong bing bong so simples guys being the one to have to talk to the nation about it
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here's my two cents on "Bernie vs Hillary": -Bernie may have been able to take Wisconsin, New Hampshire, Maine-2, and Michigan. -I doubt he may have been able to take Pennsylvania, Ohio, NC, or Florida. It's possible he could have, but Hillary beat him in all these states in the primaries. -I'm not positive he could have increased turnout, which was the big failing this year for the democrats as a whole. So yeah, there's my thoughts on the entire matter.
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so correct me if I'm wrong but Hillary and the dnc worked together to kill any new Obama candidates in their infancy so she could have an easy primary and now there's no one ready to step up and people are desperately talking about Michelle and duckworth
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MysteriousStranger posted:Sanders needs to get the gently caress out of the Democratic party. He's offering economic policies that help the white working class, aka racists and bigots, at the expense of rich white social liberals. That's not tolerable anymore and anybody who supports that is just as bad as a Trump supporter. Populism is just as vile as racism and sexism and the enemy of social liberalism. Even worse, if we did get votes form it we'd be diluting minority votes with racist votes, anybody who advocates getting more white working votes is signing up with bigotry. source your quotes you fuckman
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Imagine sandy hook or dylan roof happening and mr bing bong bing bong so simples guys being the one to have to talk to the nation about it "This guy really shot the place up bigly, that I can tell you."
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Imagine sandy hook or dylan roof happening and mr bing bong bing bong so simples guys being the one to have to talk to the nation about it yeah its going to be amazing
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