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Mokelumne Trekka posted:we did repeal Prohibition further clarification; I always assume the very absolutely worst possible lol democracy
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Nov 10, 2016 02:58
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babypolis posted:the most stupid and ignorant people in the world were right. im still in shock
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did the hillary toxxes really not get enforced? if trump lost do you think the mods would let them off?
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babypolis posted:the most stupid and ignorant people in the world were right. im still in shock The one thing this election proved for sure is that there is no shadowy cabal or global conspiracy pulling the strings behind everything, because they would never have allowed Donald Trump. Admittedly most of the crowd who really went in for that kind of stuff was voting for Trump already in order to strike a blow against the establishment, but I think we can safely say now that America is actually controlled by its democracy and voting actually does control who will run the country. Of course, in practice Trump is all the more vulnerable to being a pawn of others' agendas, even if he can't be completely predicted or controlled. But it'll be obvious and clumsy manipulations like Trump gifting Putin all of Ukraine because Putin went to Trump's birthday.
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Nov 10, 2016 02:58
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LmaoTheKid posted:Can confirm. My subway ride was so quiet it got creepy. Same. My NYC day included dead subways and people weeping at the office. All politics talk at the bar after. poo poo is bad and we are shook.
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Nov 10, 2016 02:59
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Harald posted:America deserved 11/9 among other things
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Nov 10, 2016 02:58
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El Hefe posted:Be happy that you at least have a democracy Americans, don't take it for granted. It's democracy the same way a supermarket frozen microwavable cheeseburger is a cheeseburger, I guess
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Nov 10, 2016 03:00
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The Nastier Nate posted:I'm gonna say it, we deserve president Trump. Everyday we suck money out of rural communities and send it to the cities either in the form of bank fees, cable bills, media you name it. Everything i own is made overseas, the only things I buy from the Midwest is food, $1.99 per pound for chicken. It's not sustainable. Trump may be a conman who can't help them but at least he tried. Clintons plan was to pretend they don't exist and rely on the blue wall, which Obama was holding together with duct tape and wire ties. The rest of us just call them racists, which turns out is not how you win votes. We deserve this, the DNC deserves this. Maybe they'll learn their lesson for 2020. we may deserve it but blacks, gays, immigrants, etc don't when marx envisioned the working-class revolution, did he realize that it would operate solely to the detriment of the working class?
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Nov 10, 2016 03:01
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frozen white-castles is actually as good as the real thing, way more expensive tho
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Nov 10, 2016 03:01
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Dolash posted:The one thing this election proved for sure is that there is no shadowy cabal or global conspiracy pulling the strings behind everything, because they would never have allowed Donald Trump. Admittedly most of the crowd who really went in for that kind of stuff was voting for Trump already in order to strike a blow against the establishment, but I think we can safely say now that America is actually controlled by its democracy and voting actually does control who will run the country. This is a unique observation that I'm actually going to parrot. Thanks.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:00
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NecroMonster posted:further clarification; I always assume the very absolutely worst possible if someone on the left wasn't a cynic before this election, they are now
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Nov 10, 2016 03:02
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Augus posted:we may deserve it but blacks, gays, immigrants, etc don't Yeah the deserve it sentiment is gross.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:02
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NecroMonster posted:among other things im still trying to wrap my head around how a steak-hocking con artist finegaled his way to controlling all 3 branches of the US government .
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Nov 10, 2016 03:02
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Augus posted:when marx envisioned the working-class revolution, did he realize that it would operate solely to the detriment of the working class? no. Marx was smart as gently caress, but he made mistakes and failed to foresee a bunch of stuff.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:01
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nachos posted:Same. My NYC day included dead subways and people weeping at the office. All politics talk at the bar after. poo poo is bad and we are shook. Went to a brewery with co-workers for lunch and of course a couple grandma and grandpas sat next to us and I made zero effort of toning poo poo down and one of the old shits just laughed and shook his head when we made our points Old white people are truly terrible and have no stake in the future decades they hosed over
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Nov 10, 2016 03:03
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:if someone on the left wasn't a cynic before this election, they are now If the left stays cynical and detached then the left will continue to get gently caress all accomplished.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:03
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El Hefe posted:Be happy that you at least have a democracy Americans, don't take it for granted.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:03
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To be honest, after going out today, I've calmed down. I mean, this is bad, but it probably will just be Bush minus the war. Apocalyptic talk is fun, but it's just talk. We just need to do what we did under Bush: protest, mock, rally, and fight. It's what we always do. Leftist media like the Daily Show and the Colbert Report thrived because, under a conservative government, we needed people to take a leftist opinion and tell it like we see it. Expect that to come back as right wing media falters. The reality is that Trump is bad and will abuse his power somewhat and none of this good, but that just means we need to protest, parody, and vote. The fact is that the Republican congress and the American people still want a democracy. Trump may love power, but even he wants a democracy. American democracy survives because we truly put the concept of democracy as part of morality. Doesn't mean we are pure about it -- gerrymandering, voter suppression, claim poo poo is rigged to cover your rear end --, but we still have votes and all the rigging in the world has not stopped us from kicking a lot of people out when we were unhappy. All this election was was yet another reminder to not get complacent, remember an election is never over till it is over (I was constantly telling people not to be complacent), and that conservatism is alive and well and therefore liberalism must be ready to fight it. For most of us, life will go on just fine. For some us, life is going to be very, very rough. The job of the lucky ones is make sure that stops: protest, stand-up for people, get the word out, etc. The fact is that the majority of Americans did not want this. This was not the President we wanted. Remind people of this reality. Keep people fighting. Most importantly, however, remember that liberalism is not just about helping oppressed races, sexual orientations and other identities. It is also a battle against the rich. Rural whites may hold views we find abhorrent, but they're victims of the same system that oppresses us all and, therefore, we need to unite and fight together. We need to remember that we must remain united against out real enemy: those who abuse power and oppress. That is what liberalism fights and that is what we must fight. We can't make this country vs city, we have to make this oppressed vs oppressor. I guess what I'm saying is, is that I feel okay because I know I am lucky enough to live somewhere where I probably won't have to worry about things going forward. I know that makes me privileged. That's why I will make efforts to help those not as lucky. That's why I will make sure to stand up for what I believe in in the face of this conservative way. That is why I will use this election to remind people what happens when we don't vote, when we get complacent, and when we forget what our real battle is.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:02
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nopants posted:Even in Defeat, Hillary Clinton Was Still Presidential as Hell. A great president, and appeareth in a flame of fier, but having taken mans shape, he maketh one marvelous in astrologie, and in all the liberall sciences, he procureth excellent familiars, he bewraieth treasures preserved by spirits, he hath the government of thirtie six legions, he is partlie of the order of angels, partlie of potestats, he hopeth after a thousand two hundreth yeares to returne to the seventh throne: which is not credible.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:02
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Do it ironically posted:did the hillary toxxes really not get enforced? if trump lost do you think the mods would let them off? People were given the opportunity to avoid getting banned if they made a donation to RAINN instead. Or rather, it's money you would have spent to re-reg yourself if you were banned, except it gets directed to charity instead of to Lowtax.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:03
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Harald posted:im still trying to wrap my head around how a steak-hocking con artist finegaled his way to controlling all 3 branches of the US government . it's because the left failed the lower and middle classes in a whole lot of different ways in part to a whole lot of obstruction
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Nov 10, 2016 03:03
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:if someone on the left wasn't a cynic before this election, they are now i was cynical before and now im extremely mad and going to get involved
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Nov 10, 2016 03:04
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Harald posted:America deserved 11/9
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Nov 10, 2016 03:04
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So lots of protesters across the USA. Will the left have their own 'tea party' type group?
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Nov 10, 2016 03:04
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It's easy to blame Hillary alone, but she wasn't writing her own speeches. There was an entire apparatus that probably hired too heavily from NYC.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:04
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why did we have to send dong lover for pizza?
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Nov 10, 2016 03:05
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Louisgod posted:Went to a brewery with co-workers for lunch and of course a couple grandma and grandpas sat next to us and I made zero effort of toning poo poo down and one of the old shits just laughed and shook his head when we made our points i was on the phone w/my dad and he basically said the same thing. old people like my grandparents voting trump are in their 80s and will most likely be dead within 5-10 years so they don't give a gently caress what's telling is that they do not give a gently caress about their grandchildren or great grandchildren
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Nov 10, 2016 03:06
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like I've read my Plato so I know democracy is hosed but I wasn't sure I'd live to see it in action
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Nov 10, 2016 03:05
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gradenko_2000 posted:People were given the opportunity to avoid getting banned if they made a donation to RAINN instead. And this is why this forum is dying. Enforce the Toxx, keep the forums alive. They took the risk, I say let them burn.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:06
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NecroMonster posted:tax and budgetary policies that would send money back, past what the remains of the social safety net manage, have been systematically blocked by the republican party, and their base, for years and years at this point I know your right, but this ain't your daddy's GOP anymore, it's the Trump Party and he is the unquestionable leader: anyone who still thinks we're gonna get 4 years of Bush2.0 is in for a rude awakening. We are so far into uncharted waters now that we can't see the shore.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:07
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Montasque posted:So lots of protesters across the USA. No, because they would first have to agree on what to fight for.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:06
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i don't blame any on individual or group alone, and i'm not even mad, i'm too god damned sick and defeated at this point
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Nov 10, 2016 03:07
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386-SX 25Mhz VGA posted:Hillary Clinton literally received more people's votes last night than Trump. And it turns out there is a system in place that allows for the balancing of power between population centers and rural areas because that is historically the divide that causes internal strife, with disconnected and disinterested effete rulers in the city lord over the common folk in the hinterlands. Turns out one party was aware of that in this election.
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Nov 10, 2016 03:07
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Nov 10, 2016 03:07
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dernal tremp mis real dumb and bad
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Nov 10, 2016 03:08
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Harald posted:like I've read my Plato so I know democracy is hosed but I wasn't sure I'd live to see it in action
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triple sulk posted:i was on the phone w/my dad and he basically said the same thing. old people like my grandparents voting trump are in their 80s and will most likely be dead within 5-10 years so they don't give a gently caress literally brexitesque
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Nov 10, 2016 03:08
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Montasque posted:So lots of protesters across the USA. Trump could never happen until he did.
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LastInLine posted:And it turns out there is a system in place that allows for the balancing of power between population centers and rural areas because that is historically the divide that causes internal strife, with disconnected and disinterested effete rulers in the city lord over the common folk in the hinterlands.
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