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I started playing this against my better judgment, but it's kinda neat. I'm so early in the game (i.e., auto-battle still wins basically every non-boss fight with zero casualties) that most deeper strategic considerations are probably beside the point, so I'll limit it to 3 things that've piqued my curiosity.
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Rangpur posted:I started playing this against my better judgment, but it's kinda neat. I'm so early in the game (i.e., auto-battle still wins basically every non-boss fight with zero casualties) that most deeper strategic considerations are probably beside the point, so I'll limit it to 3 things that've piqued my curiosity.
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Rangpur posted:I started playing this against my better judgment, but it's kinda neat. I'm so early in the game (i.e., auto-battle still wins basically every non-boss fight with zero casualties) that most deeper strategic considerations are probably beside the point, so I'll limit it to 3 things that've piqued my curiosity. I know you didn't really ask for this sort of advice, but I would suggest at your first opportunity to use the 50 Mythril you get (you should actually get a bunch in the item box due to the Halloween campaign that just ended) and pull on Keeper's Choice 2. Pretty much every item from that would be a huge boon to a new player, doubly so if you managed to get either Platinum Sword or Sentinel's Grimoire.
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You'll be missed Black Mage. Not much mind you. If it's any consolation, the only reason White Mage is still around is to make up for Rydia's lack of ability slots. Do you ever get more than 2? Nephrite posted:I know you didn't really ask for this sort of advice, but I would suggest at your first opportunity to use the 50 Mythril you get (you should actually get a bunch in the item box due to the Halloween campaign that just ended) and pull on Keeper's Choice 2. Pretty much every item from that would be a huge boon to a new player, doubly so if you managed to get either Platinum Sword or Sentinel's Grimoire.
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Nov 9, 2016 21:01
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Two half price 11x draws, keepers 2, and all of the half price single draws, and I ended up with: 2 flame shields Blank blade Mace of Zeus Sentinel grimoire Ashe's defence If only I had any of those character's (besides tyro). But if I understand, just getting that grimoire means I should be happy, right? And I only ended up spending $2, everything else was mythril or gems that I apparently had but don't know why
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Until about difficulty 60 or so the difficulty is pretty much a recommended level for your party. Once you start getting to the higher difficulties, it becomes more about what skills and relics you bring to fights. You can definitely do stuff that is significantly higher than your party level. It just takes more effort or some really good relics. Imo it's not really worth upgrading equipment unless it's four stars or better with maybe some three stars if you have a lot of dupes and they have good bonus effects. Upgrading relics not only gives them stats but also increases the bonus they get from synergy. Relics that have a higher rarity have higher max ranks that they can achieve, so they have better synergy bonuses as well as stats. Also it's worth noting that ten points in attack from ten levels or whatever is a significant increase that will make a difference in your damage. It's also better because buffs are percentage based, so you get more mileage out of them with higher stats. The generic classes are awful and have awful stats but can get some good record materia when you break their caps. Tyro(Record Keeper) on the other hand still doesn't have very good stats other than mind,, but he can use any equipment and any ability making him pretty versatile. He can also get some really good record materia when you break his level caps and has a decent burst soul break and the potential to cast wall which is very useful for a lot of endgame fights. I'd say get him to 65 and get his record materia and then ditch him unless you get his good relics or you need a specific role filled that no one else can do. Also yeah totally draw on keepers choice 2 at some point. It won't go away for a while so don't worry needing to draw on it asap. Though you probably should after you do your lucky draw.
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Rangpur posted:No, I'm actually glad you said something since I'd thought about pulling on... whatever the current 25-cost Relic pull is, but I'll hold on to them for now. How often does Keeper's Choice 2 come around? Keeper's choice will stick around for like... 11 months? Basically it'll be available for so long, that power creep will eventually obsolete it before it actually goes away.  Definitely hit the 25 mythril 11-pulls whenever you can, unless you're really well off. That discount is real nice. I'll just quote a relic advice post I did yesterday: Attestant posted:Half price banner coming later today is a good start, always pull on those when you're new. Then I'd recommend keeper's selection 2, the key items being Platinum Sword (FFT, Ramza) and Sentinel Grimoire (Tyro). Having one or both is pretty vital for late game content. FruitPunchSamurai posted:Imo it's not really worth upgrading equipment unless it's four stars or better with maybe some three stars if you have a lot of dupes and they have good bonus effects. This isn't quite true, since combined & reforged 3* gear (5*+++) is still great with realm synergy. I'd highly advice holding on to pretty everything 3* and above when you're starting, just to build up realm synergy. Daggers, swords and rods are especially useful, since they're commonly used DPS character weapons. For armor, hats and bracers are the best things in the 3/4* item pool, since they offer bonuses to offensive stats. Also good to keep in mind is that The Vault is a good place to store crappy dupes until you can fully combine three items. Attestant fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Lucky Draw gave me a Twin Lance (Squall BSB), which is actually pretty great! That's a considerable boost to my VIII physical synergy. I had no need at all for V or VII stuff, so this went pretty well. It also means that I can now field a full physical team where everyone has an BSB. That would be Gilgamesh, Vaan, Squall, Tyro, and Eiko. Since I have native SG, that's basically Shout RW forever and ever and ever. But Kain is my bro and I dived the hell out of him and honed Dragoon Jump to R3, so there's a good chance he joins the team and Gilg/Squall becomes a wildcard depending upon the demands of battle. I also really, really hope I can get Kain's BSB.
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Schwartzcough posted:I just asked the webmaster. He said "That's because the latest update borked my backend. I've been working like a madmen to figure out the new encryption and get it back. I'm working on it as we speak. Reverse engineering is fun (not)." He says he's close to figuring it out, though, so fingers crossed.
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Attestant posted:Important thing is to always do an 11-item pull, since that guarantees at least one 5* relic. Avoid 3-pulls completely, and 1-pulls are only worth it if you spend a dollar on the single discounted pull you can get. Extra reminder though: after 29 of those you'll have spent exactly as much money as you would for an 11 pull, just spread out over time and likely without picking up a 5*. So it's whichever version of the math you prefer.
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Mithross posted:Two half price 11x draws, keepers 2, and all of the half price single draws, and I ended up with: Sentinel Grimoire is super good. Basically what it does, is give +200% to both Defense and Resistance, making it a massive defensive buff. One of the best in the game, that power creep has never really caught up on. It won't feel too amazing right now, but it'll be a godsend in difficulty 99 and higher content. Basically:  Now that you have SG, you can probably leave that banner alone. The other important chase relic on it is the Platinum Sword and its Shout, but that you can get from a roaming warrior easily enough. Attestant fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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Schwartzcough posted:I just asked the webmaster. He said "That's because the latest update borked my backend. I've been working like a madmen to figure out the new encryption and get it back. I'm working on it as we speak. Reverse engineering is fun (not)." He says he's close to figuring it out, though, so fingers crossed. I have no idea what he's talking about because there is no encryption on the JSON on either the global or Japanese clients. I just loaded up a stage in the FFX event to be sure and it's 100% pure unencrypted data.
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Zurai posted:I have no idea what he's talking about because there is no encryption on the JSON on either the global or Japanese clients. I just loaded up a stage in the FFX event to be sure and it's 100% pure unencrypted data. Yeah, I couldn't tell if the issue was the 'real' encryption people had been getting worried about, or some other change that resulted in his automated back-end data collection not getting the data correctly anymore. 
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I suppose it's possible they changed the format somewhere, but FFRK Inspector still pulls up enemy data automatically so it can't be that.
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Decided to do a triple on the Smol banner with the Whack-A-Monster mythril because hey my mage meta team is getting stacked as hell might as well try to stack it more. Didn't get anything mage relevant but I did get Relm's Luminous Robe. That Hastega + 50% Crit will be delicious on my physical team. Also means I'm totally ditching Ramza for Quina or Leon. A good day indeed.
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A few weeks ago I was complaining about not getting Plat Sword. 
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I almost didn't pull on the DU Lucky draw, but I had already allocated the mythril for the purpose in my planner and I wasn't entirely mentally stable last night, so I went ahead and did it. Two shinies, Strange Vision and Masamune-Shinuchi. Way, way, way better than I could have hoped for. Seph's burst is absolutely future-proof and Strange Vision, while not a stellar healing burst, actually has a lot of potential as an attacking burst.
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just Lenna's Sage Staff on the Lucky Draw. It's a medica w/heavy regen, which is okay, but I already had sheepsong so it's not a tremendous help. I don't think any future CM is possible given my lack of good FFV relics, those two and moore branch are my only realm SBs. Need more FFV pulls 
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Pander posted:just Lenna's Sage Staff on the Lucky Draw. Actually a SSB-level medica, a hastega/faithga/regen, and a runic effect are all really solid relics, and I've done CMs with much worse. It's all you really need for a great mage team if the boss has a weakness you can exploit with a RW magic BSB. Plus all the physical V characters can self-buff themselves if you can get a 4*+++ weapon or something (Steal Power for Faris/Bartz, Meteor Crash for Galuf, and Mirror of Equity for Gilgamesh). Really, most CMs can be done if you have a couple honed 5* abilities. You're significantly better off than that.
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So what was the recommended procedure for the Witch Hats? Combine them into a 8+++, or have two 6+'s? I don't run mage teams very often as I don't have many good mage SB's, all I have off the top of my head (that aren't complete poo poo) are Rinoa BSB, TERROR Magitek Missiles, Serah SSB, and Exdeath Grand Cross. I have plenty of gil so I'm not really worried about reforge costs. (okay Magitek Missiles really aren't that powerful but still) Shock Trooper fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Japan had a Dungeon Update today as well (#32), so I grabbed the relevant data/guessed my way through Google Translate to put up the new stuff and turn off some filters for DU 26 in the dungeon summary. I've decided not to bother putting up event data for one-time things, but I will reconstitute the recurring events (Nightmare and Mote dungeons) in some form or another. Should I fiddle around with the side branches at all? Currently there are seven of them, but I'm not sure quite how to arrange the set.
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LornMarkus posted:Extra reminder though: after 29 of those you'll have spent exactly as much money as you would for an 11 pull, just spread out over time and likely without picking up a 5*. So it's whichever version of the math you prefer. Actually you would be extremely unlucky to pull 29 times in a row without getting a single 5*. That's about a little less than a 1% chance of happening. There's no question that statistically the dollar draws are the most efficient at least in terms of pure 5* per dollar spent over a long period of time. What you do lose out on with dollar draws is that you are spreading those pulls out over multiple banners which likely dilutes your pulls into less powerful banners. You might be better off doing an 11 pull on something like onion knight 1 for example. BUT this all depends on your synergy needs.
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edit: wrong goddamn FF thread again, sorry guys edit 2: to clarify I thought I was in the FFBE thread, where pulling any 5* character from the gatcha is 1%, and therefore a really terrible idea to chase those units. Benthalus fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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flowinprose posted:Actually you would be extremely unlucky to pull 29 times in a row without getting a single 5*. That's about a little less than a 1% chance of happening. There's no question that statistically the dollar draws are the most efficient at least in terms of pure 5* per dollar spent over a long period of time. This is correct. The dollar pull is actually about twice the return as a single (paid) 11-pull. The most common result from an 11-pull is about 2 5 star relics; the expected return from 29 single pulls is just over 4 5 star relics. Zurai fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Benthalus posted:Uh, no. The rate of any 5* is 1% or 0.01. The change of a single pull not giving a 5* is 99% or 0.99. The probability of 29 consecutive independent events of 0.99 likelihood is 0.99^29 = .7471, or about 75% to pull no 5*. So really you'd be lucky to get a 5* in those 29 pulls since it is only a 1/4 chance. I think you're thinking of the rate to get a SPECIFIC 5* relic, which I seem to remember being 1%. The rate of ANY 5* relic was closer to 12% or 13%, I thought.
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I wish the old 5 star relics would go away from banners even if it's the bargain bin lucky banner that cost 10 mithril I'm salty cuz I got a Buster sword (lame that it doesn't have a unique sprite) and irvine's first sb are the 5 stars I got on the lucky draw superloosegoose fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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flowinprose posted:Actually you would be extremely unlucky to pull 29 times in a row without getting a single 5*. That's about a little less than a 1% chance of happening. There's no question that statistically the dollar draws are the most efficient at least in terms of pure 5* per dollar spent over a long period of time. I'm an extremity, but I'm on 100 gem #32 since a 5*.
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Koobes posted:I'm an extremity, but I'm on 100 gem #32 since a 5*. Hard to say the odds without knowing exactly what you drew on, but assuming a 14% odds of 5*, that's around 0.8% chance. (I think it's around 3.5~ at 10%. The actual value is, thanks to banner shifts, somewhere in the middle.) So you know, not nearly impossible, but at the same time you're pretty unlucky. It's basically the same rate as the people that 11 pull and successfully dredge out 1/11 off-banners!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHtxFmzEt1o&list=PLthPnWFrfb-H7a6qO0tymSO9P2hFMMxQf&index=52 I had not seen Shantotto's BSB until now, and now I desperately need to own it.
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Koobes posted:I'm an extremity, but I'm on 100 gem #32 since a 5*. Well that's the thing, there are going to be cases where people get unlucky. On the other hand, there's also some people out there that have gotten eleven 5* items in the same number of draws (which is approximately the same likelihood as getting zero 5* relics in 32 pulls).
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SageAcrin posted:It's basically the same rate as the people that 11 pull and successfully dredge out 1/11 off-banners! I got one 5*. Guess what it was!? At least I was able to get a ice-resist armor and some elemental weapons.
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Zonko_T.M. posted:Speaking of which, I decided to pull an 11 on the Keepers Choice 2, since all of the relics looked really handy, except Excalibur V since I already have Bartz BSB. The Excalibur is still pretty useful, really. It has the +20% Holy damage that most Excaliburs have, and the SSB is very good. Relatively high non-elemental damage, and a +% Def bonus. I'd argue that it's stronger than his BSB if you're not hitting weakness.
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Zonko_T.M. posted:Speaking of which, I decided to pull an 11 on the Keepers Choice 2, since all of the relics looked really handy, except Excalibur V since I already have Bartz BSB. Bartz can use lifesiphon. Why not use both?
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 Following the XI event in JP, it's  FFT: Introducing Rapha and Marach, or Rafa and Malak if you prefer. FFXII: A Penelo-focused event. FFX: More Tidus.
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My Lucky Draw gave me all 3* except for Lenna's full party cure SSB. This is my 7th white mage full party cure.
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FF13 event doesn't start until Friday? Guess today is Dungeon Update day.
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Hogama posted:
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Here's a video of how chain soul breaks work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D4BqOTgq9w
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X and XIII are the new VI and VII, I guessShoenin posted:Penelo is seriously getting another event? Probably a USB for her, like how Aeris just got one in the most recent VII event in Japan. We won't be getting the Vayne event in Global for almost four more months still, so I'm cool with two XII events relatively close together. Grozz Nuy fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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