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Cardiac posted:Yeah, and it is going to be interesting whether our political elite will learn anything from Brexit and Trump winning. I think (hope) that SD has it's current roof at 20%. But gently caress America for giving them something to hope for. The loving idiots, you'd have to be insande AND stupid (i.e. SD) to welcome a Trump presidency.
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Zudgemud posted:What we first need to do is making voting mandatory with fines handed out to people who neglect their civic duty, because people not voting due to laziness just puts democracy in the bin. On the other hand, australia
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Zudgemud posted:What we first need to do is making voting mandatory with fines handed out to people who neglect their civic duty, because people not voting due to laziness just puts democracy in the bin. Like Australia then? Edit: Beaten like Hillary
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Zudgemud posted:What we first need to do is making voting mandatory with fines handed out to people who neglect their civic duty, because people not voting due to laziness just puts democracy in the bin. I prefer the carrot method to the stick method, come up with some sort of reward or benefit for voting. Also change the voting system so that it feels more worthwhile to vote (Single Transferable Vote thanks) so you can vote for the party that actually aligns with your interests rather than having to choose the lesser evil.
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BigglesSWE posted:I think (hope) that SD has it's current roof at 20%. But gently caress America for giving them something to hope for. The loving idiots, you'd have to be insande AND stupid (i.e. SD) to welcome a Trump presidency. Next out is probably LePen as French president if the trend keeps on going. They are polling at 20% on average atm, but considering the deficits most municipalities will face in 2017-2018 due to the immigration crisis of last year, I am pessimistic.
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Cardiac posted:Since young people don't really vote (see Brexit) but old ones do, I guess we should blame the schools in the 60-80s then?
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Welp, at least Dansk Folkeparti are dropping in opinion polls due to various scandals, but who knows what they stand to gain from a Trump presidency.
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eightpole posted:It appears the best career move right now is to become a right wing politician. Probably, especially considering the other parties are pretty locked down by nepotism. Well, islamism seems to be a winner within MP though.
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Cardiac posted:Probably, especially considering the other parties are pretty locked down by nepotism. Except you get booted if you are found sitting at the same table as Islamists. Meanwhile, laughing at the idea of dead Jews ON CAMERA is kosher for other parties.
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Zudgemud posted:What we first need to do is making voting mandatory with fines handed out to people who neglect their civic duty, because people not voting due to laziness just puts democracy in the bin. Is it laziness why people don't vote or is it that they have a feeling that their vote doesn't matter? All decisions are made in the cabinets anyways by unelected people which are then implemented by whoever wins the election.
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Collateral Damage posted:It's all an effect of neglecting the school for so long. Kids aren't taught fact checking and critical thinking any more, which has given us the fact-resistant generation who only trusts whatever their echo chamber on Facebook says. No matter how many actual truths you shove in their faces they'll ignore it if it doesn't match up with their preconceived world view. Eeeeh. A contributing factor, maybe. I read an article in Respons that I thought was pretty interesting (note: academic discussion, not really a pundit-authored thinkpiece). There were other articles in the same issue that also seemed interesting such as this one but I haven't read them all yet. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Nov 9, 2016 |
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BigglesSWE posted:Except you get booted if you are found sitting at the same table as Islamists. While making hints about it is apparently fine, lex Reepalu.
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Emetic Hustler posted:Is it laziness why people don't vote or is it that they have a feeling that their vote doesn't matter?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:The former follows the latter. It's hard to find effort to do something meaningless, isn't it? Doesn't even matter if cabinets or whatever else is voted in directly or indirectly. Plenty of people just have preconception of politics being decided at a plane remote from their existence. Also not probably helped by the Swedish party system, where loyalty to the party matter the most and puts you on top off the nomination list and where parties are to 90% financed by the state.
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http://www.svt.se/opinion/article11011909.svt A short little think-piece that pretty much sums up my thoughts on the future of the GOP in USA. I'm just sad that they'll make life harder for their perception of "untermenchen" (LGBT, muslims, women in general) before they crash and burn.
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BigglesSWE posted:http://www.svt.se/opinion/article11011909.svt
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cinci zoo sniper posted:As it looks right now, Trump administration is seeking to sign a few dozen executive orders to destroy Obama's legacy right in the first day of the office. Pence has confirmed full reversal on LGBT rights. And, as you may imagine, there will be a red Supreme Court, that may only get worse if one or more justices do die of old age during the Trump presidency. As it stands, even in for years they will be able to inflict decades of social and political damage, especially with the Supreme Court staffing. The most frightening part of all I have just mentioned? We are only in the early [American] morning of the first day after the election day. You just had to come in here and make sense?  I'm just interested to see if the rabid Trumpsupporters CAN be let down by their supreme leader, or if they'll eat up his inevitable lies and excuses as he fails on every major campaign promise.
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BigglesSWE posted:You just had to come in here and make sense?  Just in case, I might be sorry.BigglesSWE posted:I'm just interested to see if the rabid Trumpsupporters CAN be let down by their supreme leader, or if they'll eat up his inevitable lies and excuses as he fails on every major campaign promise.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:
I meant that it was a very good post with some horrifying (but perfectly logical) assumptions. Meant nothing bad towards you, chum.
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BigglesSWE posted:I meant that it was a very good post with some horrifying (but perfectly logical) assumptions. Meant nothing bad towards you, chum. At least you guys are not voting for SD any time soon (or ever at all), even though even SD would prove to be a major quality of political life improvement for me coming over from Latvia. While our right is not so overt with slandering "the others", they still are economically liberal. At least they can't possibly form a government without any of the two major parties taking the effective lead of the coalition. Well, they couldn't. We're experienced sort of a political crisis right now with ruling party plummeting to being unpopular with everyone bar literally their friends and relatives, so it's hard to predict what will happen on the next elections.
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Hey, if we're lucky maybe the Chinese economy will noticeably wobble enough to make the average person panic before the year is up so we can finally blow the housing bubble. Maybe even get some Baltic refugees if Russia invades them once they figure out that they won't face any further consequences than a sternly written letter signed by most of the EU leaders (after they've argued for five months over which font to use).  Anyway, what is fi up to these days?
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BigglesSWE posted:I think (hope) that SD has it's current roof at 20%. But gently caress America for giving them something to hope for. The loving idiots, you'd have to be insande AND stupid (i.e. SD) to welcome a Trump presidency. You're gay. The SD top has been lukewarm at best on Trump and the party leader is critical of him. Contrary to shitlib echo chamber propaganda, SD are as milquetoast and level-headed as nationalist parties get (because they're Swedes after all). Trump's alleged raycism and seksism were reactions to the increasing identitarianism under the Obama years. Sanders vs. Trump would have been a more interesting if less entertaining election but Dem primary voters were oblivious to the zeitgeist and picked Mrs. Globalist instead. Had the election been Sanders vs. Hillary's counterpart among Republicans Jeb Bush, Dems could easily have won a third term even with the incumbent disadvantage. Now that they're in the underdog position and have the initiative, maybe American libs should try appealing to Trump voters instead of shitlisting them because they don't keep up with a dozen new genders every week. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Karpaw posted:You're gay.
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Huh, never realized the weather in Stockholm was so different. (Referring to the news that 30-40 cm of snow is more than it's had in a hundred years.)
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Stockholm is bad & only rural poor piece of poo poo towns are good
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eightpole posted:Stockholm is bad & only rural poor piece of poo poo towns are good I see. Next time I'm in Sweden I'll have to visit some of those. Any recommendations?
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Jerry Cotton posted:I see. Next time I'm in Sweden I'll have to visit some of those. Any recommendations? http://ehrenstrom.se/Halindex2.html
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Jerry Cotton posted:I see. Next time I'm in Sweden I'll have to visit some of those. Any recommendations?
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Tobo, I lived there for some time. Remember to visit the pizza place serving food poisoning, toilet paper, coffee, and cigarettes to the entire population of 800. That doesn't sound good to me.
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Jerry Cotton posted:That doesn't sound good to me. I think you're starting to get a good grasp of this whole rural thing.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Huh, never realized the weather in Stockholm was so different. (Referring to the news that 30-40 cm of snow is more than it's had in a hundred years.) A bit late, but it's more snow in one go in November than the last hundred years, not more snow in general.
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quote:Institutionens hålmästare kan idag rekommendera besök i: I've been to about a dozen of these and agree with the recommendations in all cases. Can contribute Björneborg (in Värmland, not in Finnish Österbotten). Speaking of this though, quick poll: how many people of my own generation and younger (say, born after 1985?) actually know what a länsbokstav is, or even better actually know which letter(s) corresponds to which county? I know it because I have a knack for remembering obscure and pointless trivia and also because of all the officious historical texts I work with, but they're hardly in common use these days and I don't remember learning about them in school. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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MiddleOne posted:Younger and I have no idea what you're even talking about. See those letters in parentheses after the town names in the text I quoted? Each county (län) has a shorthand designation, one or two letters, called "länsbokstav". Almost nobody uses them these days. Before 1973 these letters were used on license plates for cars - the registration number was the county shorthand followed by some digits. They were pretty ubiquitous especially in official documents during most of the 20th century (wordings like "Vidsel, BD län" were pretty common from what I've seen), but after they were removed from cars people stopped using them and I don't know if they're even officially recognized now. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A4nsbokstav TheFluff fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Tobo, I lived there for some time. Remember to visit the pizza place serving food poisoning, toilet paper, coffee, and cigarettes to the entire population of 800. loving lol if your local pizzeria isnt also an illegal night club
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eightpole posted:loving lol if your local pizzeria isnt also an illegal night club 
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That's some next level poo poo. I got admit there was something charming to the one local pizza joint being the only place people socialized back when I was 10. Owner always having weird tales to tell as we waited and gossiped about whatever that weeks nonsense was.
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Fader Movitz posted:A bit late, but it's more snow in one go in November than the last hundred years, not more snow in general. I guess I shouldn't trust lovely Tabloid 2 to report things accurately 
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