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Explosionface posted:He's saying goodbye for the offseason. He and Jake live in Austin during the off months. N: Rizzo and Heyward both won Golden Gloves V: This was announced while everyone else was paying attention to the election.
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I'm not surprised Arrieta is a giant piece of poo poo. I mean just look at him.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 03:28 |
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it was not a great day to wear my arrieta shirtsey to work
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 03:31 |
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Ammat The Ankh posted:you realize the cubs world series had literally nothing to do with the election right? Ammat The Ankh posted:you realize posts on an internet forum had literally nothing to do with the election right? You realize how much of a ponderous rear end you're being right?
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 03:39 |
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Poque posted:it was not a great day to wear my arrieta shirtsey to work Smooth one. Sorry all I will deal with my donation as soon as I can (payday). When I finally sobered up on Sunday I realized that someone had taken all the money from my bank account last week (bars). In light of things maybe the ACLU?
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 05:05 |
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Sydin posted:lol no. Does this mean Dex will be back? Or just cutting payroll?
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 05:23 |
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Dr. Pepper is really loving me over right now.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 05:25 |
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Niwrad posted:Does this mean Dex will be back? Or just cutting payroll? Probably they view bullpens as a bad place to spend notable money since they're so volatile.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 05:27 |
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Niwrad posted:Dr. Pepper is really loving me over right now. Well to be fair, that's the UnderArmor site, so I don't think the Dr Pepper code would work there.
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Niwrad posted:Does this mean Dex will be back? Or just cutting payroll? It's possible and the Cubs have said they're open to resigning him, but I'd peg it at unlikely at this point. The two primary points of focus for the Cubs, per Hoyer, are starting pitching and the bullpen. This is interesting since they've also signaled they're probably not going to toss money at a closer. Which means that money is being set aside for pitching, either now or down the line. I imagine Dex is going to get offers for a 3-4 year contract at ~$13-16 AAV (think a Ben Zobrist contract) and I'm not sure the Cubs will be willing to pony up that much cash for a bat.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 05:37 |
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ScottyJSno posted:N: Twitter reports Go after Jansen instead. I'm pretty sure Chapman wants to be a Yankee anyway.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 06:26 |
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Thanks Kevlar! I've spent the day distressed for my minority and LGBTQ friends due to this election and came in to read the thread to cheer myself up. Oh and add me to the list of those who'd swap the Cubs WS for a Clinton presidency.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 06:28 |
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I'm guessing we're about at Peak Reliever in which case someone will get $100MM to pitch the 9th.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 06:32 |
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Explosionface posted:Probably they view bullpens as a bad place to spend notable money since they're so volatile. Yeah, I believe Theo has never been one to spend big money on bullpens. Always pushed more from building within. Probably the smart strategy considering how much relievers fluctuate and Theo is always right. Maybe they'll make a trade for someone like Colome in Tampa. You can always trade for bullpen arms at the deadline too.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 06:41 |
He wants $100 million but I really don't think he'll get it. Chapman is fantastic but he can also be a bit unpredictable and I'd be wary signing him to a long term (4 year +) contract because once his velocity starts to drop off he's gonna be really ineffective. I could be wrong and maybe the closer market has reached peak insanity but I just don't think he'll get it.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 06:43 |
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Miz Kriss posted:I got ya, hun Rizzo will forever look like an overgrown 11-year-old
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 06:58 |
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N: Kyle Hendricks voted NL Pitcher of the Year by the MLBPA. V:
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 07:03 |
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Pvt. Public posted:
Well I didn't mean IL was exclusively red everywhere except Chicago, but it's mostly true. Basically, the rural areas are red, the more urban you go the bluer. LeftistMuslimObama posted:Right, but I'm talking about now, today. People started making those jokes again. Like. Just stop it. Talk about baseball, complain about Buster Posey's gold glove, whatever. But don't make light of a tragedy for a whole bunch of people. It's a tragedy for everyone. On Earth. Some people use humor to deal with tragedy...but I'm not doing that here. It's super hosed and there's nothing I can do or say to make it better for you or any of us. I'm sorry. Popete posted:This is the Something Awful forums no? It's entirely built off poor taste. This is true, and it's what I respond with to goons who have thin skin. ScottyJSno posted:N: Twitter reports $100M...for what, 10 years? For the guy who blew the save in game 7 of the WS?
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 07:07 |
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Niwrad posted:Yeah, I believe Theo has never been one to spend big money on bullpens. Always pushed more from building within. Probably the smart strategy considering how much relievers fluctuate and Theo is always right. Maybe they'll make a trade for someone like Colome in Tampa. You can always trade for bullpen arms at the deadline too. Yeah, 100 million for Chapman is a no. He's an amazing talent but long term as we've seen, once triple digits are gone he morphs into Hunter Strickland. I'm not sold on Edwards as a closer just yet due to control issues so if there's going to be a deal for a closer hopefully it comes without the deadline surcharge.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 07:17 |
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In a small defense of his demand, isn't the cost per win in free agency about $8 million? And he's averaged just over 2.5 WAR since becoming a full time closer 5 years ago.
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Niwrad posted:In a small defense of his demand, isn't the cost per win in free agency about $8 million? And he's averaged just over 2.5 WAR since becoming a full time closer 5 years ago. Not to defend 100m becuse that is crazy talk, but I dont think you can use a average $ per war for RP right? RP war is cray low for whst they do. Zack Britton had a 'cy young season' and his war was only 4.3 per Baseball Reference. Dex Fowler had 4.3 war too. Should they get paid the same? I have no idea what the point of this was. Is there a better stat for RP? A FIP + BABIP. AnERA+ perchance?
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Niwrad posted:In a small defense of his demand, isn't the cost per win in free agency about $8 million? And he's averaged just over 2.5 WAR since becoming a full time closer 5 years ago. I just don't think that salary works for a closer, even a good one. $100M either works out to be a ridiculous amount per year for a couple years, or a lesser amount per year over several years, and as he ages his velocity will decline, reducing his effectiveness and value at the end. Plus there's the uncertainty as to how long his arm will hold out throwing 104+. ------------------------------------ I just read this article which has this quote at the end: quote:Baseball spending still is strictly limited, relative to baseball revenues, for three more seasons based on bank covenants related to the Ricketts’ family purchase of the team in late 2009. Anyone know the specifics of that? I can understand them leveraging the purchase of the team and being restricted in terms of additional expenditures until terms of the loan are fulfilled, but what are the financial constraints mentioned in that paragraph?
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 10:00 |
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Atomizer posted:Anyone know the specifics of that? I can understand them leveraging the purchase of the team and being restricted in terms of additional expenditures until terms of the loan are fulfilled, but what are the financial constraints mentioned in that paragraph? The CBA only allows you to carry debt 8 times that of operating income. The Cubs had to buy the team using a huge amount of debt because Zell didn't want to pay taxes. So until the CBA changes or the debt is paid in 3 years, the Cubs payroll will likely not be high. I'm wondering if they overspent last year and now have to cut salary for this year (Hammel and Fowler).
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 10:40 |
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Adrian Beltre posted:"I think I'm happier for him than for me because for the last couple of years, he has played such a great defensive first base and was never recognized," Beltre said. "Most of my mistakes are throwing the ball and Mitch has saved me so many errors and makes things look easier for me." Adrian is the best guy
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 14:48 |
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Atomizer posted:
To be fair him blowing that save wasn't on him at all. Like Joe Maddon burned that dude hard. And then he came back out and pitched a good inning when he had absolutely nothing. He had to throw like 10 straight sliders and got people out. Not to say he's worth 100 million. But I don't hold game 7 against him.
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Dexo posted:To be fair him blowing that save wasn't on him at all. Like Joe Maddon burned that dude hard. And then he came back out and pitched a good inning when he had absolutely nothing. He had to throw like 10 straight sliders and got people out. Wait. Was this Joe's plan all along? Burn up Chapman, make him look bad in ~~big spotz~~ and then drive his price down so the Cubs could resign him?!!
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 15:49 |
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Did anyone else have images of 1998 Rod Beck dancing through their head during Chapman's innings in Game 7?
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 16:23 |
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ScottyJSno posted:Not to defend 100m becuse that is crazy talk, but I dont think you can use a average $ per war for RP right?
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tadashi posted:Did anyone else have images of 1998 Rod Beck dancing through their head during Chapman's innings in Game 7? I pretty much only think of him when playing the Giants.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 16:36 |
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tadashi posted:Did anyone else have images of 1998 Rod Beck dancing through their head during Chapman's innings in Game 7? Thinking about Rod Beck now makes me sad. That dude loved baseball. He's buried in his Cubs uniform.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 16:51 |
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Apparently Go Cubs Go made it onto the Billboard charts. More importantly, Northwestern and Illinois did a marching band version. e: revised because I didn't bother reading everything Explosionface fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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The Dickster signed with the Braves for 1 year with an option
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 17:22 |
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Explosionface posted:Apparently Go Cubs Go made it onto the Billboard charts. More importantly, Northwestern did a marching band version. Illinois did too! https://twitter.com/IlliniFootball/status/794956734062280704 I hope Go Cubs Go becomes as hated by fans of opposing teams as Chelsea Dagger
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:Illinois did too! That'll teach me to not read everything! To be honest, I think everyone already hates it. I even hate it a bit right now because it hasn't left my head since game 7.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The Dickster signed with the Braves for 1 year with an option This week's been a gigantic bummer
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Spring Break My Heart posted:WAR for relievers is low because the relievers are less valuable than other positions. Britton should not have received real Cy Young consideration (and he's at least out of the top 3 in a not particularly staggering year of candidates). Giving guys like Gagne the Cy Young should be seen along the same line as giving Juan Gonzalez the MVP. As a person who firmly believes Zach Britton should have been the Cy Young winner: a: Pitcher WAR is a bad stat for all pitchers, not just relievers. b: Unlike the MVP, which has 'most valuable' right in the name, Cy Young is simply an award for the best pitcher in the league. Obviously how you judge this depends person to person, but this is why relievers winning Cy Young awards is not as crazy as a not very valuable player winning the MVP in 2016.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The Dickster signed with the Braves for 1 year with an option RA Dickey is a cool old man and I will miss having him on the Blue Jays.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The Dickster signed with the Braves for 1 year with an option In keeping with Braves tradition, he will be assigned the last name Niekro for next season.
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Paul Zuvella posted:a: Pitcher WAR is a bad stat for all pitchers, not just relievers. What makes you say this? Is this just fWAR or all types of pitcher WAR?
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 18:04 |
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:I hope Go Cubs Go becomes as hated by fans of opposing teams as Chelsea Dagger Get the Cubs to also play Chelsea Dagger for every home run. Gather all the salt.
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