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My relatives in Ukraine are all really happy about Trump because "Clinton wanted to start WWIII" "Clinton wanted war with russia" "Clinton wants to re-start the cold war"
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Baronjutter posted:My relatives in Ukraine are all really happy about Trump because "Clinton wanted to start WWIII" "Clinton wanted war with russia" "Clinton wants to re-start the cold war" I going to feel sorry for your relatives next summer. This is even after Trump's talk about Ukraine?
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They wont loving react until they feel the effects. My general family and Ukrainian associates are universally "why do you care about the gays, you are not gay married" "you are not getting an abortion, so why do you care?" Ignorance and FYGM are circular and thus self sustaining. They wont react until there is some political concession to Russia, which god willing, a republican congress wont allow.
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Gaj posted:Im worried that as a Ukrainian American, most of my fellow Slavs are pro Trump, despite the fact he has little love for NATO or care for Ukraine. When I point this out they go silent. This is one of the leading Ukrainian fraternal sites on the east coast http://www.soyuzivka.com/ . They still have black face Halloween parties and are basically a Slavic Bohemian Grove, but poor and with cocaine. These are the white folk who are the decedents of war refugees and are now saying the Muslims shouldn't be let in because they cant be trusted (like the communists). This is basically a moneyed middle class white demographic that is whole FYGM. Ha ha. This is so true. I was a part of CYM as a kid and it blew my mind that most of the Ukes I know were supporting Trump despite him being clearly willing to sacrifice Ukraine for a foreign policy win. That said, my aunt was a diehard Republican anti-Hillary type, but when she heard Trumps ideas on Ukraine, she actually voted for Hillary. So there's some hope I guess? On a side note, when I was 15 I went to Souyuzivka and got so drunk I fell into an irrigation ditch on my way back to the tent and passed out. There's a Ukrainian Americans for Trump analogy somewhere in there, but I haven't figured it out yet.
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It sucks for anyone who lives in eastern Europe but considering a whole lot of poo poo is coming for the next four years concessions to Russia would be the most usefully exploitable poo poo policy to discredit trumpism. It's much harder to blame on liberals/foreigners than bad consequences of any domestic issue and rank cowardice totally jars with his image as a strongman who will MAGA. I don't see a few months of trump saying 'Russia is cool and good' overcoming 50 years of Russia being the Great Enemy, especially amongst authoritarian minded right wingers.
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:It sucks for anyone who lives in eastern Europe but considering a whole lot of poo poo is coming for the next four years concessions to Russia would be the most usefully exploitable poo poo policy to discredit trumpism. It's much harder to blame on liberals/foreigners than bad consequences of any domestic issue and rank cowardice totally jars with his image as a strongman who will MAGA. I don't see a few months of trump saying 'Russia is cool and good' overcoming 50 years of Russia being the Great Enemy, especially amongst authoritarian minded right wingers. You are right. It would definitely suck for those few dozen million people living in Eastern Europe. Where do you live?
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El Perkele posted:You are right. It would definitely suck for those few dozen million people living in Eastern Europe. Australia, so I'm under no illusions that my glib statements about Eastern Europe aren't biased by being about as insulated as it is possible to be from the consequences. I don't think Trump's foreign policy is defensible for what it's worth.
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I haven't spoken to any of my friends or relatives in Ukraine since the election but they can't possibly be pro Trump after he was openly sucking up to Putin the whole campaign. Right? On other hand he was talking about nuking everyone so maybe he's not all bad. TBH I'm all for improving relations with Russia, but this has to come with them GTFO from Ukraine and Georgia as a prerequisite. BigRoman posted:On a side note, when I was 15 I went to Souyuzivka and got so drunk I fell into an irrigation ditch on my way back to the tent and passed out. There's a Ukrainian Americans for Trump analogy somewhere in there, but I haven't figured it out yet.
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mobby_6kl posted:I haven't spoken to any of my friends or relatives in Ukraine since the election but they can't possibly be pro Trump after he was openly sucking up to Putin the whole campaign. Right?
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Trump thinks the Crimea situation is perfectly fine so I don't see any good news for Eastern Europe the next 4 years.
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:It sucks for anyone who lives in eastern Europe but considering a whole lot of poo poo is coming for the next four years concessions to Russia would be the most usefully exploitable poo poo policy to discredit trumpism. It's much harder to blame on liberals/foreigners than bad consequences of any domestic issue and rank cowardice totally jars with his image as a strongman who will MAGA. I don't see a few months of trump saying 'Russia is cool and good' overcoming 50 years of Russia being the Great Enemy, especially amongst authoritarian minded right wingers. Even setting aside the millions of people in Eastern Europe who are about to get hosed (I'm sorry, guys; I'm so, so sorry), our authoritarian right wingers have been slobbering over Putin for years. After all, he's a man's man who's standing up for real Christian values, and he doesn't take any lip from uppity women or sniveling protesters. He's carrying forward the torch of western civilization (lol), filling the gap left by that decadent Marxist Obama. Though most of the big name neocons jumped ship (though we'll see how long that lasts, now that Trump's actually won), the conservative rank and file are going to eat that Russophilia right up. Being part of a reactionary personality cult means not having to worry about cognitive dissonance, and many of those who should supposedly know better will go along just for the sake of ingratiating themselves with the winning team (see Newt "Estonia is in the suburbs of St. Petersburg" Gingrich). Sandweed posted:Donald Trump thinks the Crimea situation is perfectly fine so I don't see any good news for Eastern Europe the next 4 years. Last I heard, Donald Trump doesn't even think there is a Crimea situation. Of course, you'd think he'd know something about it, given that his crew blocked pro-Ukrainian language from making it into the RNC platform. He saw no consequences, for that, by the way. Like I said, conservative wariness of Russia is a thing of the past. I've come to the awful realization watching these last few years that the only reason American conservatives were so vehemently against the reds is that communism was purportedly about uplifting the workers. The authoritarian personality cults, the murders of dissidents, the work camps for wrongthinkers? All fine and dandy. Again, I'm so sorry for what's about to happen. Stay safe, Eastern Europe goons.
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Cat Mattress posted:Thanks to you, I discovered this. You gotta post them all, including the composite map  It seems like Norway got out of Albania... Nenonen fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Blizz Pizz Love Us posted:Again, I'm so sorry for what's about to happen. Stay safe, Eastern Europe goons. Nothing is about to happen.
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Poland as a special needs lion. Somehow appropriate. In re: Slavs voting Republican even when its against their best interests, a lot if not the majority of Slavs in the U.S. be they Polish, Ukrainian or what have you fled EE because of communism and as such are naturally very hard right. They hate communism and blame it for them having to leave their beloved (in theory) homelands and are deeply suspicious of anything that's even mildly left of center. It used to be the same with Vietnamese immigrants in the U.S. (who were refugees from the Vietnam war). Its not that surprising honestly, especially when you add it the high religiosity of these diaspora to the equation.
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A Pale Horse posted:Poland as a special needs lion. Somehow appropriate. "describe Poland" "Poland is strong and majestic in appearance, but sometimes licks the windows."
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Living in Ukraine for two years under a Trump administration feels pretty daunting now. On the other hand, I'll be in the Zakarpatti oblast, so I can always run into the loving arms of the Jobbik party!
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Shes Not Impressed posted:Living in Ukraine for two years under a Trump administration feels pretty daunting now.
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alex314 posted:It's a baboon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEsUAcyw5Qw
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Poland has a solution for Agent Orange dropping the ball on EE defense: quote:The Polish defence ministry is launching free nationwide classes for women to learn unarmed combat.
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mobby_6kl posted:Poland has a solution for Agent Orange dropping the ball on EE defense: Everything has a propaganda dimension these days, isn't he paying attention?
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http://www.vox.com/world/2016/11/10/13585524/donald-trump-phone-call-south-korea-park-geun-hye Well well... quote:Trump just completely reversed his policy on South Korea — only 2 days after being elected But then again South Korea isn't exactly skimping on defense spending.
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part of me would immensively respect trump if he just told putin to get hosed after getting him to help get elected, though i understand putin might have big compromat files on President Elect Trump
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Kurtofan posted:part of me would immensively respect trump if he just told putin to get hosed after getting him to help get elected, though i understand putin might have big compromat files on President Elect Trump Putin is going to laugh all the way to Kiev.
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Nov 11, 2016 12:06
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I'm having this fever dream of Trump handing over Alaska to Russia. Das Vadanya, Tovarish Palin!
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Nov 11, 2016 12:20
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Stay tuned for news about Independence Day riots from Warsaw!
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Nov 11, 2016 12:27
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Speaking of November 11, it's the Latvian War of Independence commemoration day in Latvia, named after the protagonist of our national epic.
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The protagonist's name is Latvian war of independence commemoration? Isn't that convenient?
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rear end struggle posted:The protagonist's name is Latvian war of independence commemoration? Isn't that convenient?
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Fatal Error posted:Stay tuned for news about Independence Day riots from Warsaw! No riots so far, some people in the nationalist march burned a Facebook flag, in protest of "censorship". https://twitter.com/blocest1/status/797090827319308288
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Kurtofan posted:part of me would immensively respect trump if he just told putin to get hosed after getting him to help get elected, though i understand putin might have big compromat files on President Elect Trump
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thehoax posted:No riots so far, some people in the nationalist march burned a Facebook flag, in protest of "censorship". Why in French
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Kurtofan posted:Why in French That was the first thing that popped up when I looked for photos of it. Anyway, the marches in Warsaw finished without major incidents. Right now there is another one happening in my city, organized by a borderline neonazi organization, but that one seems to be going relatively calmly as well. Still, the amount of people who showed up at these is really frightening.
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Estonia's new president has said that having not been a church-going person before she will not be attending any church ceremonies related to national or church holidays because doing so would be insincere. She started with saying no to the church service/mass/ceremony-whatever that was meant to be held after her swearing in ceremony in the parliament. I'm fine with this.
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Two mentions of this in the last 5 pages? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/11/serbia-deports-russians-suspected-of-plotting-montenegro-coup quote:Serbia deports Russians suspected of plotting Montenegro coup "poo poo guys", said the head of the Russian Security Council, "our bad." "Maybe NATO should stop expanding on our doorstep on the Adriatic", he continued, "and constantly saying that Russia is a security threat?"
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Legislation on decriminalisation of domestic violence has landed in the lower house of Russian parliament. 
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Legislation on decriminalisation of domestic violence has landed in the lower house of Russian parliament. How can Russia ever be stronk again on a diet of burned dinners?
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