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Large segments of Cubs fans hate Go Cubs Go. It's just kinda an indoctrination thing. I hate it and I find myself singing it(will never listen to it outside the context of a cubs win or something though. Chelsea dagger is a fun melody and great. Especially the only part that they play. Wish I liked hockey enough to watch the regular season of it.
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Dexo posted:Large segments of Cubs fans hate Go Cubs Go. It's just kinda an indoctrination thing. I hate it and I find myself singing it(will never listen to it outside the context of a cubs win or something though. I hate it partly because it's not part of my Cubs Fan Childhood and we're all acting like it's this longrunning tradition. It's like that elf on a shelf bullshit. It's fake nostalgia!
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I want the Cardinals to trade for Ryan Braun but I know they won't.
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Thom P. Tiers posted:I want the Cardinals to trade for Ryan Braun but I know they won't. I can't say I'm purely against it because it lets me direct all my hate at one team, but at the same time I don't like a career Cub killer heading to the Cards.
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i hope ryan braun gets traded into a volcano
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Poque posted:i hope ryan braun gets traded into a volcano lol. I hate the guy too but he crushes baseballs and I think he can do that for 4 more years.
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Poque posted:i hope ryan braun gets traded into a volcano What would the Brewers get in return?
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TMMadman posted:What would the Brewers get in return? matt adams and jaime garcia lol
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Thom P. Tiers posted:I want the Cardinals to trade for Ryan Braun but I know they won't. This person does not speak for all Cardinals fans. I'm part of Poque's pro-volcano movement when it comes to Ryan Braun.
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Pancakes posted:This person does not speak for all Cardinals fans. I'm part of Poque's pro-volcano movement when it comes to Ryan Braun. But Ryan Braun is really good at baseballing and the Cardinals need that.
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ego symphonic posted:What makes you say this? Is this just fWAR or all types of pitcher WAR? I suppose saying it's a bad stat is a bit hyperbolic. It's just not as useful as player WAR and is generally, in my eyes, does a bad job capturing who the best pitchers are. Generally speaking, I think it rewards worse pitchers for pitching more innings than in should. This is a big deal, as it punishes a pitcher for playing on a team with a better bullpen.
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Thom P. Tiers posted:But Ryan Braun is really good at baseballing and the Cardinals need that. I would rather continue to lose for another year or two than have that scumbag on our team.
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Thom P. Tiers posted:~$80m off the books I actually don't think the Brewers are four years away from competing but I wonder what the Brewers' front office thinks.
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Poque posted:I actually don't think the Brewers are four years away from competing but I wonder what the Brewers' front office thinks. The Brewers' front office (as in David Stearns, Child Prodigy) thinks that the team needs to focus on the draft and developing talent for the next few years. They're getting as many prospects as they can MLB time to see how they develop and who they can build around. The Brewers' owner Mark Attanasio is a true baseball fan and every time the Brewers get on a 4 day hot streak starts flapping his lips about how if we just get the right guys in there we could contend, this year maybe even. I genuinely believe a lot of the things we attribute to Doug Melvin's leadership had more to do with Attanasio pestering him all the time to go for it. Hopefully Stearns is more resilient against that and trades every tradeable guy for more prospects. Ryan Braun absolutely should not be in Milwaukee anymore, and it's a crime that Khris Davis isn't in Milwaukee anymore.
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Paul Zuvella posted:I suppose saying it's a bad stat is a bit hyperbolic. It's just not as useful as player WAR and is generally, in my eyes, does a bad job capturing who the best pitchers are. It also punishes guys who outperform their fip because of odd skills that allow for weak fly ball contact, like peak Matt Cain, Dickey or Marco Estrada the last couple years.
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Paul Zuvella posted:I suppose saying it's a bad stat is a bit hyperbolic. It's just not as useful as player WAR and is generally, in my eyes, does a bad job capturing who the best pitchers are. Also pitcher wins are dumb, so clearly pitcher wins above replacement must also be dumb, duh.
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:It also punishes guys who outperform their fip because of odd skills that allow for weak fly ball contact, like peak Matt Cain, Dickey or Marco Estrada the last couple years. Well, fWAR specifically does that, which is why I would personally agree that it's a stupid stat. But I think that RA9-WAR is a strong indicator of a pitcher's value over the course of a season, if not necessarily a predictor of his future performance.
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Poque posted:I actually don't think the Brewers are four years away from competing but I wonder what the Brewers' front office thinks. 4-5 years from now is when the bulk of the Cubs young talent base will hit FA, which means if you're an NL Central team trying to rebuild that's probably when you'd like your window to open. Honestly I think the Brewers could compete even before that, since they have a decent core of young guys who are going to keep getting better, and a fledgling ace in Davies. They just need to find more answers for their rotation beyond Davies.
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Sydin posted:4-5 years from now is when the bulk of the Cubs young talent base will hit FA, which means if you're an NL Central team trying to rebuild that's probably when you'd like your window to open. Honestly I think the Brewers could compete even before that, since they have a decent core of young guys who are going to keep getting better, and a fledgling ace in Davies. They just need to find more answers for their rotation beyond Davies. They have several guys cooking in the minors, and I imagine their big trade targets this year will be pitching prospects (since Stearns focused mostly on position players last season). I don't think there's any reason to get to aggressive hunting down FA pitching talent or even current MLB trade targets until they have a group of bats who demonstrate that they can hit consistently through a whole season. The Brewers this season were extremely hot-and-cold and while a lot of them came out with okayish numbers, the wins weren't there and while the pitching has been a problem, there's plenty of games they lost 2-1 or 3-1.
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Pancakes posted:I would rather continue to lose for another year or two than have that scumbag on our team. 100% agreed. gently caress Ryan Braun.
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Pvt. Public posted:100% agreed. gently caress Ryan Braun. Yeah I wouldn't do that to some innocent volcano.
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What the hell is Trout doing with all these silver slugger awards? He just won his fifth straight. He's gonna run out of people to give them to.
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Poque posted:Rizzo adds a silver slugger to his gold glove Huh, I knew Freeman was awesome this season but him being possibly the most valuable first baseman in baseball wasn't something that I had allowed myself to consider
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I wish I could feel  about Arrieta winning the SS over Adam "Doubles" Wainwright and Madison "DON'T LOOK AT ME" Bumgarner, but instead I'm just have a sense of mild irritation and disappointment  e. Also  at Bryant winning the Hank Aaron Award but not the Silver Slugger.
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Altuve gets another silver slugger award  His thirdYou could've made a legit case for Cano probably
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Sydin posted:I wish I could feel Bryant only played like 100 games at 3rd and also shouldn't have won the Aaron Award.
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N: https://twitter.com/Braves/status/796744383743819776 V: Cool I guess?
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Good Dog posted:What the hell is Trout doing with all these silver slugger awards? He just won his fifth straight. He's gonna run out of people to give them to.
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TheChaosPath posted:Huh, I knew Freeman was awesome this season but him being possibly the most valuable first baseman in baseball wasn't something that I had allowed myself to consider Freddie Freeman was crazy good this year, especially after the Kemp trade.
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Intruder posted:Altuve gets another silver slugger award I will fight you
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Pancakes posted:Arrieta wins Silver Slugger over Wainwright and I die a little more inside. After what Arrieta posted, me too, friend, me too.
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ruddiger posted:I mean, look at the guy. That's exactly my view. Also he's probably on methamphetamines.
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