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Deified Data posted:Reread - I don't think racists should be catered to in any way, shape, or form. Those make up the majority of the "disposables" in that scenario. I don't think the Dems would lose any significant amount of people for promising a positive economic future for the working class. Racists wouldn't bite but I said we don't need them. But that's literally all anybody has been asking for? There's literally no reason why Dem should lose voters for promising economic benefits to the working class, that's what has been the most effective political leverage since the invention of voting. Even if it skimmed 1% off the top of the non-voting and Trump numbers, it would have been enough. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Anyone super concerned about the long, terrible reign of Joe Arpaio needs to Google the man and check his birth date. Geez.
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:So a potential Trump cabinet is literally probably gonna be Actually Sarah Palin could because she is such an idiot be for the best, she might save lands because she thinks their pretty. Hell she probably can be conned by native groups trying to protect their lands with spirit magic mumbo jumbo, to make her think thats why why she should protect them. She really is that much of a idiot. Lessail posted:Trying to court white voters can very very very very easily turn to racism
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Squashing Machine posted:Surely, more guns will save us. The future I want is where I get into several armed standoffs on my way to, at, and from the Trader Joes Yo read up on the Black Panthers and how necessary they were in an era where, even when black people had the most political cache they ever had up to that point, they were still considered worthless. That time is coming again, and it isn't going to be any prettier than it was the first time around.
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Crowsbeak posted:Actually Sarah Palin could because she is such an idiot be for the best, she might save lands because she thinks their pretty. Hell she probably can be conned by native groups trying to protect their lands with spirit magic mumbo jumbo. gently caress off I hear them plenty day to day you piece of poo poo
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Bad Decision Dino posted:If weak rear end talking points like "We're going to bring back all of the jobs." is enough of an incentive to make half the country throw out common decency and vote for orange clown Hitler, I can understand why minorities in this thread feel like they are not being valued by their fellow Americans. Pretty much. *minorities*: Oh so you're willing to trade my life for jobs that have no possibility of coming back? *white progressives*: we must meet in the middle with Trump voters! *minorities*: 
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Fiancee has been getting terrified texts from her half-Mexican sister because her Polynesian husband is pretty dark skinned and their baby is obviously a big old mix. Lovely 
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:So a potential Trump cabinet is literally probably gonna be Death to America
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steinrokkan posted:So Trump is back to his primary hobby, schmoozing with celebrities. Is this the final confirmation that this is the Ryan - Pence presidency? That never needed confirming, that's been obviously true from the beginning.
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Lmao at the white liberal telling us not to prepare ourselves to defend against possible white supremacists
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Sarah Palin will have an email gate two weeks into her tenure. It will be fun.
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Rush Limbo posted:Yo read up on the Black Panthers and how necessary they were in an era where, even when black people had the most political cache they ever had up to that point, they were still considered worthless. This is insane doomsaying, extraordinarily anti-liberal, and only viable because it's emotionally expedient. Everyone start claiming your bell towers now, it's going to get crowded.
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Lessail posted:gently caress off I hear them plenty day to day you piece of poo poo We're not all devils despite your misconception.
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Crowsbeak posted:Actually Sarah Palin could because she is such an idiot be for the best, she might save lands because she thinks their pretty. Hell she probably can be conned by native groups trying to protect their lands with spirit magic mumbo jumbo. She's going to encourage and promote unlimited hunting on federal land, especially if done from helicopters. Also oil. Lots and lots of oil.
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I've been thinking about the ramifications of this election for the future of the left half of the left-liberal coalition, and it seems to me this greatly enhances the standing of the Jacobin/neo-socialist/Brocialist wing of it. The elite white feminist and LGBT activist wing on the other hand is facing a catastrophe so big it's hard to think about. They completely bet the farm on the success of the Democratic establishment and got in bed with it. The Lena Dunhams of the world are going to take the biggest brunt of the impact from Trump's admin in terms of both political and cultural influence and also in actual real world oppression, even more than racial minorities I think. You'll likely see gay marriage repealed, openly discriminatory legislation against trans people, a de facto ban on abortion in red states (which is most states now). Buy shares in Jacobin I guess
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Crowsbeak posted:We're not all devils despite your misconception. After this election you cannot claim this anymore
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:So a potential Trump cabinet is literally probably gonna be Which one gets there from winning a price from a Soda contest?
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pocket pool posted:Death to America Oh don't worry, that cabinet would do it.
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Crowsbeak posted:We're not all devils despite your misconception. Donald Trump was just elected POTUS.
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Crowsbeak posted:We're not all devils despite your misconception. tbf this is exactly what the devil would say
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Lessail posted:After this election you cannot claim this anymore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3-saxB3GZY&t=9s
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Sorry bro but I want off this neoliberal plantation. lol if you think I'm not strapping up
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Squashing Machine posted:This is insane doomsaying, extraordinarily anti-liberal, and only viable because it's emotionally expedient. Everyone start claiming your bell towers now, it's going to get crowded. Even if nobody is going to shoot anybody, there's no reason why there shouldn't be an armed parity, or why it would be a bad thing per se. It will be at least interesting who switches to an anti-gun agenda.
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sumie posted:Sorry for posting a reddit link, but oh my god what have you unleashed EDIT: Whoops posted before I was done In Europe that's been playing out with radical left and radical right groups gaining unprecedented wins while the centralist parties diminish. They came out of the GFC and lurched from one economic crisis to the other up to present day, so it makes sense that this hit them a lot sooner than it hit us. Bhaal fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Nov 10, 2016 |
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Radish posted:Which one gets there from winning a price from a Soda contest? Secretary of Health Rick "mandatory drug tests for welfare recipients" Scott
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Squashing Machine posted:This is insane doomsaying, extraordinarily anti-liberal, and only viable because it's emotionally expedient. Everyone start claiming your bell towers now, it's going to get crowded. Why is it insane? Please, explain what you think will happen to minorities in the next 4 years that makes worrying about oppression insane.
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Scent of Worf posted:Lmao at the white liberal telling us not to prepare ourselves to defend against possible white supremacists Because it's just good common sense? I find it funny that a common party stance of full gun control is thrown under the paranoia bus the moment we feel threatened. It's almost like it wasn't really a value at all!
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Europe has been watching people say "hey this austerity thing isn't working for us" for a long time leading to the rise in fascist groups which the establishment parties twiddled their fingers or actively sought their help. People thought America was immune to this but hahaha.Admiral Ray posted:Why is it insane? Please, explain what you think will happen to minorities in the next 4 years that makes worrying about oppression insane. I mean under Obama police are allowed to execute black children with impunity (he says that sucks but can't do anything). What do you think will happen when the Justice department is controlled by Trump?
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It's gonna be cool being the only person in my neighborhood with a job 4 years from now. Our customers are government entities that won't go away until the missiles fall  .
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icantfindaname posted:I've been thinking about the ramifications of this election for the future of the left half of the left-liberal coalition, and it seems to me this greatly enhances the standing of the Jacobin/neo-socialist/Brocialist wing of it. The elite white feminist and LGBT activist wing on the other hand is facing a catastrophe so big it's hard to think about. They completely bet the farm on the success of the Democratic establishment and got in bed with it. The Lena Dunhams of the world are going to take the biggest brunt of the impact from Trump's admin in terms of both political and cultural influence and also in actual real world oppression, even more than racial minorities I think. You'll likely see gay marriage repealed, openly discriminatory legislation against trans people, a de facto ban on abortion in red states (which is most states now). Buy shares in Jacobin I guess Uh, I don't think so, the people invested into the current strategy are still coming out of colleges and are going to prop up the current direction for at least a couple of years, while there is a slow, but steady push back against them. As for real world oppression, the Lena Dunhams are Trump's buddies in all matters but politics.
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Let's just say when the revolution comes I won't be the only one caught without a weapon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YaoV7Qkh2Q
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Admiral Ray posted:Why is it insane? Please, explain what you think will happen to minorities in the next 4 years that makes worrying about oppression insane. Worrying about oppression is not insane. Buying a gun as some sort of magic item to protect you against it only puts yourself, your family, and others at risk, just as when conservatives buy guns to protect themselves from their supposed oppressors.
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The white supremacists can't and shouldn't be helped. gently caress 'em. However, regardless of whether you want to admit it or not, white supremacists are not the reason Trump is president, he's president in spite of them. The democrats have to become the American Labour party if they want to survive in any capacity beyond minority opposition. We can build a party that's racially inclusive, respects women, and genuinely advocates for the working class. These things are not mutually exclusive. Slapfighting about who's last racist is not going to help anything. Let's talk about organizing or communities instead maybe? Be the change you wanna see?
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Squashing Machine posted:Because it's just good common sense? I find it funny that a common party stance of full gun control is thrown under the paranoia bus the moment we feel threatened. It's almost like it wasn't really a value at all! The gun control platform never did anybody any good.
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sumie posted:Sorry for posting a reddit link, but oh my god what have you unleashed Brexit and Trump were the start. Steps need to be taken to cauterize wounds that could lead to heightened nationalism and neo-fascism.
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Owning and carrying a gun is going to make you markedly less safe than otherwise if Stop and Frisk becomes national policy, I would think.
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steinrokkan posted:The gun control platform never did anybody any good. I disagree with you, and, by the rules of this thread, I am now required to call you a garbage piece of poo poo. May God have mercy on your soul
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Squashing Machine posted:Because it's just good common sense? I find it funny that a common party stance of full gun control is thrown under the paranoia bus the moment we feel threatened. It's almost like it wasn't really a value at all! Sounds like you projected your perception of things onto the most diverse voting bloc in the country. Sounds like a personal problem.
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