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GlyphGryph posted:I think he could if he ran with a clear, decent pick for VP in mind. A Bernie/Warren ticket would pretty easily calm fears about him dying in office, wouldn't it? It's like, worst case scenario you get the first woman president. Warren is no spring chicken herself. Bernie Sanders, Liz Warren, and others like them should be doing everything they can to recruit and empower people like them who are 20, 30, and 40 years younger to rebuild the Democratic party.
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Homework Explainer posted:it's funny to see the same people who called me a paid kremlin stooge mysteriously disappear from this forum after the election that's cuz you aren't even paid
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HannibalBarca posted:Warren is no spring chicken herself. Bernie Sanders, Liz Warren, and others like them should be doing everything they can to recruit and empower people like them who are 20, 30, and 40 years younger to rebuild the Democratic party. Yeah, but I still feel like if they could find some sort of good VP candidate there would be a lot less concern about their age.
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GlyphGryph posted:I think he could if he ran with a clear, decent pick for VP in mind. A Bernie/Warren ticket would pretty easily calm fears about him dying in office, wouldn't it? It's like, worst case scenario you get the first woman president. honestly i still don't know what the gently caress warren was even doing this year It felt like she was trying as hard as she could to be as useless as possible to everybody
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GlyphGryph posted:I think he could if he ran with a clear, decent pick for VP in mind. A Bernie/Warren ticket would pretty easily calm fears about him dying in office, wouldn't it? It's like, worst case scenario you get the first woman president. I seriously hope Bernie and supporters are willing and able to wrestle control of the party away from the Clintonites that have turned it into republican lite, and yeah, they're going to need a new candidate with the same fire and passion as Bernie, but hopefully at a much younger age.
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Typo posted:that's cuz you aren't even paid Сука Блять
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I'm gonna listen to this meanwhile here's an email I got. Elizabeth Warren posted:
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GlyphGryph posted:Yeah, but I still feel like if they could find some sort of good VP candidate there would be a lot less concern about their age. I don't know why older candidates always make this mistake, Dole and McCain did it too. The longer you take to put a youthful and competent person beside you, the more time your opponent has to scare the poo poo out of potential voters. If you put someone beside you who's incompetent, it just costs you the goddamn election.
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Homework Explainer posted:it's funny to see the same people who called me a paid kremlin stooge mysteriously disappear from this forum after the election just for the record you're still an idiot.
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:FYI, I can say with nearly 100% certainty that this is happening right now because the DNC is practically begging the AFL-CIO to not abandon them going forward. Finally.
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 20:53 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:He didn't campaign in a lot of those states because the Clinton machine had a stranglehold on their electoral politics, which is what the polling made clear. people also forget that bernie put a shitload of work into SC and got largely rebuked - there was no reason whatsoever to spend those resources again all throughout the south when it was clear it was just going to be a repeat.
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The Democrats lost because they said "...those jobs are gone now." and didn't immediately follow it up with "...and we're going to hang the bastards on Wall Street who stole them." They should have attacked Wall Street in the most violently populist terms possible, because no one who works there is even slightly sympathetic. Anyone who thinks of themselves as a citizen of the world rather than as an American has poo poo to offer poor people.
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HannibalBarca posted:Warren is no spring chicken herself. Bernie Sanders, Liz Warren, and others like them should be doing everything they can to recruit and empower people like them who are 20, 30, and 40 years younger to rebuild the Democratic party. killary literally ruined the democratic party because of her ego lol
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Mister Fister posted:I think the first fight i ever got into was with Obdicut. I want to see him answer for his crimes. he was perhaps the biggest fart huffer of them all
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Zikan posted:sanders has made his first move for progressives to take over the dnc. keith ellison is the co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus which is basically then anti-third way/clinton faction of the party All I got from this is an excuse to Minnesota post Actually nevermind Minnesota was too close for happy Minnesota posting.
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Peztopiary posted:The Democrats lost because they said "...those jobs are gone now." and didn't immediately follow it up with "...and we're going to hang the bastards on Wall Street who stole them." They should have attacked Wall Street in the most violently populist terms possible, because no one who works there is even slightly sympathetic. Anyone who thinks of themselves as a citizen of the world rather than as an American has poo poo to offer poor people. One Democrat said that...
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Peztopiary posted:The Democrats lost because they said "...those jobs are gone now." and didn't immediately follow it up with "...and we're going to hang the bastards on Wall Street who stole them." They should have attacked Wall Street in the most violently populist terms possible, because no one who works there is even slightly sympathetic. Anyone who thinks of themselves as a citizen of the world rather than as an American has poo poo to offer poor people. Kinda hard to do that when your nominee got rich from them!
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Zythrst posted:I'm gonna listen to this meanwhile here's an email I got. lol doesn't mention hillary clinton once
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Powercrazy posted:Finally. believe me, I am not nearly in a position to make these sort of decisions but I would be giddy if we actually did take a step back from insider DNC politics. Obama not going out to Wisconsin was loving shameful: that was the moment to show the US labor movement that when things got really lovely, the D's would have our backs. they do not.
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Mirthless posted:honestly i still don't know what the gently caress warren was even doing this year probably didnt help that fellow democrats (~DWS~) were going after her poo poo like payday loan protections.
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Mirthless posted:honestly i still don't know what the gently caress warren was even doing this year Does Clinton's machine have a history of making things unpleasant for those who oppose her? It felt like they gave Warren power in Congress in terms of committee positions, with the understanding that if she got in the way and they won anyway it would all disappear. Who knows, though, in the end.
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LmaoTheKid posted:Its funny how the superdelegates were in the wrong party. Everybody who ever posted about how superdelegates are necessary to prevent the Left Wing Donald Trump from taking over the Democratic party should be rocketed up and into the loving sun. Mirthless posted:Dude, I don't really know what your objection to what I'm saying is, and this one is the most confusing It's difficult to see how "tweaking his message" would work in the face of an institutional wisdom which discredited any potential for his victory in the first place. Political views aren't actually shaped by cheap bromides, the problem was always fundamentally ideological.
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Peztopiary posted:The Democrats lost because they said "...those jobs are gone now." and didn't immediately follow it up with "...and we're going to hang the bastards on Wall Street who stole them." They should have attacked Wall Street in the most violently populist terms possible, because no one who works there is even slightly sympathetic. Anyone who thinks of themselves as a citizen of the world rather than as an American has poo poo to offer poor people. really hard to do that when your party leadership is Wall Street
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Speaking of the Democratic party being in shambles right now, let's count the ways: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/democratic-party-in-crisis-trump-president-231134 quote:“We thought this would happen in 2018, not 2016,” added a senior Democratic aide who woke up on Wednesday unsure of his party’s shape for the first time in years, especially given the forbidding map two years down the line. “It could get worse before it gets better." “I don’t know who’s in charge. Who would email me?” said one state party chairman when asked if he’d heard from other party leaders. quote:“As you can imagine, I’m taking the simple view that the party will re-litigate 2016, find gems in the debris, and begin a long and arduous task of rebuilding,” Brazile told POLITICO. “We are a forward-looking party." quote:Why did Clinton spend so much time in North Carolina, so little in Wisconsin? quote:And then, inevitably, there’s the question of what happens before 2020, the party already expecting a furious fight to oust Trump, but the fury not yet overtaking the despair. No senators or governors have been laying any groundwork for a run, though Tim Kaine has an obvious step ahead. There haven’t been any trips to Iowa or New Hampshire. No recruiting of national finance teams.
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resar posted:really hard to do that when your party leadership is Wall Street It's this. I wonder if Clinton was ever terrified of particular speeches getting out.
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Karl Barks posted:lol doesn't mention hillary clinton once let her name lay upon the land as a curse for a thousand generations
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Oh Snapple! posted:people also forget that bernie put a shitload of work into SC and got largely rebuked - there was no reason whatsoever to spend those resources again all throughout the south when it was clear it was just going to be a repeat. Justin Bamberg is a hero though.
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HannibalBarca posted:Speaking of the Democratic party being in shambles right now, let's count the ways: lol they're literally not prepared because Clinton culled the field so thoroughly they probably didn't have any plans for the next 8 years
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Freaking Crumbum posted:I don't mean like she's a nobel prize laureate who should know better; I mean if you're a rational person and you have a media platform that you can leverage to try and accomplish goals that you personally believe in, you might want to figure out how to do so without stomping all over your own dick. if you're only there to entertain people that's cool, but you can still do that in a way that doesn't gently caress up stuff you might actually want accomplished.
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resar posted:really hard to do that when your party leadership is Wall Street looks like they are salivating at a trump presidency anyways. literally nothing of value would be lost. also ^^^^^ lol!
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Lawman 0 posted:looks like they are salivating at a trump presidency anyways. No it's different you see as Trump likes JP Morgan while Hillary likes Goldman Sachs
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Oh Snapple! posted:lol they're literally not prepared because Clinton culled the field so thoroughly they probably didn't have any plans for the next 8 years yea it's loving hilarious. she didn't want an Obama 2.0 and completely wrecked the party apparatus with help from Kaine and dws
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Oh Snapple! posted:lol they're literally not prepared because Clinton culled the field so thoroughly they probably didn't have any plans for the next 8 years he must stopped at all costs if he does
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Raskolnikov38 posted:let her name lay upon the land as a curse for a thousand generations Good job Clintoning your term paper, i give you an F!
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# ? Nov 10, 2016 21:03 |
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Say one thing about Hillary Clinton, say she connects with affluent white women in the twilight of their careers who need one last moment of validation.
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Lawman 0 posted:looks like they are salivating at a trump presidency anyways. A Trump presidency makes no real difference to them. they aren't going to get attacked by Rightist shitheads
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Zikan posted:i wouldn't be surprised if Cory Booker is looking into a run remember when hill shills got mad as gently caress about the bernie folks booing him and cuomo during the DNC lol
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Zikan posted:i wouldn't be surprised if Cory Booker is looking into a run my co-workers have been hyping him and Gavin newsome all morning
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Oh Snapple! posted:remember when hill shills got mad as gently caress about the bernie folks booing him and cuomo during the DNC lol while salivating over the crying white berniegirls, i should add
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Grand Theft Autobot posted:So, now that gun control as a national issue is completely dead, can liberals/Democratic pols finally, mercifully, give it the gently caress up? 50% of my extended family is rural and liberal, and nearly all of them voted Trump based on gun control. Yes please.
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