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PittTheElder posted:I'm assuming your current legitimacy is zero then? If so, yes, the new guys legitimacy will almost certainly be weak. ive raised my legitimacy to 50 or so since the last dude took over with 0 so maybe ill give it a shot, the heir sucks anyway although he is good general
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Nov 10, 2016 22:50
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Alikchi posted:Man, I've tried a Manchu-Qing run a couple of times and always get stomped by Ming or Korea 40 or 50 years in. How do people do it? I actually did this tonight but I had super luck. I formed Manchu and right after that Ming exploded and Manchu rebels liberated four provinces and gave them to me. After waiting for some years Ming was down to a random assortment of provinces and just 8k soldiers so I attacked and peaced out with Beijing. Took me 70 years all in all. So uh, hopefully you'll see the same thing sometime!
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Nov 10, 2016 23:03
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Now I see that Cavour wasn't completely wrong
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Nov 10, 2016 23:10
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It's actually mega dumb that you can't walk through the Alps there, I mean that historical arrangement lasted for several hundred years as far as I am aware in spite of France being right there Related, I hope they make some of the wastelands around India bigger, there probably shouldn't be such a big Tibetan-Indian border.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:18
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Whoa didn't realize they shook up the Ethiopia start
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Nov 11, 2016 00:48
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Jazerus posted:The big things you will have to learn are estates, institutions, states/territories, and the military changes - particularly getting used to the fact that if you attack an army who is sieging your fort, you become the defender instead of the attacker, so mountain forts and such are very useful now. Thanks for all the replies. Maybe I've forgotten the term, but what was vassal blocking again?
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Nov 11, 2016 00:50
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The AI doesn't seem to care about fort zones in 1.19 beta. They can just waltz right through to my backline to siege it, and I'm not talking about that AI shortcut cheat. It's provinces that should be completely unreachable by them.
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Nov 11, 2016 00:58
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Node posted:Thanks for all the replies. Maybe I've forgotten the term, but what was vassal blocking again? Vassal blocking was when you created a vassal to physically block your capital from direct land access to a chunk of other provinces that you own. This would cause those provinces to become "distant overseas", giving them a 75% autonomy floor but 50% cheaper coring. Now you get the cheaper coring and a 75% autonomy floor everywhere, but those cores are "territory cores". Several provinces in the same territory can be upgraded into a state for a nominal fee/month, which reduces the autonomy floor to 50%. Territories in a state can have their autonomy floor dropped to 0% by spending admin to convert the territory cores to state cores, which happens instantly, and you can press a single button to core all of the provinces in a state at once. You get a finite number of states, you can assign more as you upgrade admin and there are some idea groups that give you extra states QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Nov 11, 2016 01:02
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Trogdos! posted:The AI doesn't seem to care about fort zones in 1.19 beta. They can just waltz right through to my backline to siege it, and I'm not talking about that AI shortcut cheat. It's provinces that should be completely unreachable by them. Does this account for the new fort rules?
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Nov 11, 2016 01:11
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StashAugustine posted:Does this account for the new fort rules? It's extremely non intuitive but basically you can walk between 2 hostile areas by having mil access through a third party which borders those provinces, it completely fucks the usefulness of forts in the HRE and at your borders in general. Hopefully this is not really intended and will be fixed.
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Nov 11, 2016 01:17
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PDXmas Carol started playing. They just start earlier every year
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Nov 11, 2016 02:01
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What is a fun non-European colonial nation to play? Preferably one that isn't too hard, if that's possible. e: to clarify I'm asking for a nation that can focus on colonizing new lands whose capital isn't in Europe.
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Nov 11, 2016 03:39
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Malacca and friends are exactly what you're looking for.
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Nov 11, 2016 03:40
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I'd also recommend Tidore and Ternate, they're actually deceivingly easy even though they're small; their land gets a huge goods produced bonus that makes them pretty rich, plus they get an extra colonist in their ideas (so they're one of the only nations in the game that can get 4 colonists).
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Nov 11, 2016 03:48
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snoremac posted:England is haaaard at the start due to its bozo leader's 0/0/0 attributes. I almost gave up when Scotland and France pulverized me, but stuck with it since I assumed its supposed to happen to mark the end of the Hundred Year War. I brooded for a while and eventually lucked out when France and I were both in an anti-Ottoman war, meaning they couldn't declare war on me and Scotland had no useful ally. The timing was perfect since I'd just eclipsed Scotland's military progress too. France joined the war eventually but had lost its transports somehow. It was delicious, sweet revenge. If not for fear of a coalition I would've swallowed Scotland whole but settled for half their provinces.
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Nov 11, 2016 04:15
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Too Poetic posted:Here's a tip for England: Delete any forts you have in France. Declare war on Scotland. Occupy Scotland and use your navy to keep French troops out of England. Wait 3 years and you will get 100 warscore for occupying Scotland. Yeah, I kept my eye on France during my war with Scotland, but they just didn't have the transports to cross the channel anyway. I'm assuming carracks can attack transports? Also, just now I moved my early carracks and transports beyond the surrounding area over to around where Rome. I had no trouble getting there with my soldiers, but once the war was over and I was returning them ALL of my carracks and transports sunk. Not all at once, but over a few minutes. Why?
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Nov 11, 2016 04:49
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snoremac posted:Yeah, I kept my eye on France during my war with Scotland, but they just didn't have the transports to cross the channel anyway. I'm assuming carracks can attack transports? Attrition? If they're out to sea for too long you need to bring them home to repair them.
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Nov 11, 2016 05:26
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Ah. Yeah they had been out there for a while.
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Nov 11, 2016 05:28
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Do militarily superior naval units work differently than land units? I've unlocked carracks and caravels but I still have early carracks and barques. I see that I can purchase carracks and caravels, so do I need to manually phase out the earlier ships by building new ones and disbanding the old ones?
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Nov 11, 2016 06:22
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Yeah ships don't autoupgrade. There is an upgrade ships button, though it's tied to an expansion, can't recall which. Costs the same as building new ones, just way less annoying. Small time savings too, but that's never been relevant to me.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:25
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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snoremac posted:Do militarily superior naval units work differently than land units? I've unlocked carracks and caravels but I still have early carracks and barques. I see that I can purchase carracks and caravels, so do I need to manually phase out the earlier ships by building new ones and disbanding the old ones? There's an 'upgrade ships' button now if they are in port. Or maybe you need Mare Nostrum for that? e: woops beaten
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Nov 11, 2016 06:25
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It's not Mare Nostrum, because I don't own it and can upgrade ships.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:26
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it's from art of war
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Nov 11, 2016 06:32
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Baron Corbyn posted:Attrition? If they're out to sea for too long you need to bring them home to repair them. To elaborate on this a little, "out to sea" means "in a sea province that is not adjacent to a friendly province." You can have them sitting off your own or an allied coastline indefinitely. On the topic, there's no way to set an alert for navies taking attrition damage or getting to low health is there? Sometimes I forget about a fleet and don't notice until I get the popup to say half of them just got lost at sea and by then it's usually too late to save the rest.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:45
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Koramei posted:it's from art of war what isn't from art of war, honestly
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snoremac posted:England is haaaard at the start due to its bozo leader's 0/0/0 attributes. I almost gave up when Scotland and France pulverized me, but stuck with it since I assumed its supposed to happen to mark the end of the Hundred Year War. I brooded for a while and eventually lucked out when France and I were both in an anti-Ottoman war, meaning they couldn't declare war on me and Scotland had no useful ally. The timing was perfect since I'd just eclipsed Scotland's military progress too. France joined the war eventually but had lost its transports somehow. It was delicious, sweet revenge. If not for fear of a coalition I would've swallowed Scotland whole but settled for half their provinces. Whenever you start foraying into the miserable and rewarding world of achievement hunting you will soon be singing a different tune when you try to unite the British Isles as an Irish minor where England is the rear end in a top hat bully and France is the useless ally.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:56
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Just getting back into EUIV after a break, apparently I have Cossacks but not Mare Nostrum or Rights of Man. I'm picking up RoM, because hooray CKII-style leader attributes, but MN seems extremely skippable. I watched a few videos and it looks like Condottieri in particular are annoying - are there any awesome can't-miss features in the MN DLC that I'm missing?
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Nov 11, 2016 07:54
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Prop Wash posted:Just getting back into EUIV after a break, apparently I have Cossacks but not Mare Nostrum or Rights of Man. I'm picking up RoM, because hooray CKII-style leader attributes, but MN seems extremely skippable. I watched a few videos and it looks like Condottieri in particular are annoying - are there any awesome can't-miss features in the MN DLC that I'm missing? Condottieri aren't always useful, but they certainly can be useful to project force in wars you're not a part of. I can't remember who I was playing, but someone big and bad declared war on me and one of their rivals offered me 15000 troops free of charge. Not to mention you can make some decent money doing it too.
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Nov 11, 2016 08:50
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Eej posted:Whenever you start foraying into the miserable and rewarding world of achievement hunting you will soon be singing a different tune when you try to unite the British Isles as an Irish minor where England is the rear end in a top hat bully and France is the useless ally. Yeah, I've realized how little of a threat France is (as a Scottish/Irish ally) once they've kicked you off the mainland. As long as you patrol the seas during wartime they're not a problem - in fact I don't think they even tried to invade my provinces the last two times I warred with Scotland. I just conquered Scotland and Ireland and formed Great Britain. Not sure where to go from here. France would still kick my teeth in if I tried invading. I haven't chosen exploration ideas so I can't go colonizing yet. I might just see what unfolds. Norway might be a decent target.
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Nov 11, 2016 09:07
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snoremac posted:Yeah, I've realized how little of a threat France is (as a Scottish/Irish ally) once they've kicked you off the mainland. As long as you patrol the seas during wartime they're not a problem - in fact I don't think they even tried to invade my provinces the last two times I warred with Scotland. Having just done an England game, I suggest you make denmark break up their pu on both Sweden and norway. If they integrate them and make Scandinavia they become a pain to handle later on...
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Nov 11, 2016 11:59
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TorakFade posted:Having just done an England game, I suggest you make denmark break up their pu on both Sweden and norway. If they integrate them and make Scandinavia they become a pain to handle later on... Luckily enough, I just helped Sweden take a chunk of provinces from Denmark. Now so long as they don't run rampant and create Scandinavia, I should be okay.
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Nov 11, 2016 12:51
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I haven't played since forts became a thing but I heard Denmark got cooler so I decided to start a new campaign. I was never very good at it but the discord goons gave me some tips and I managed to take Lübeck by attacking Riga which pulled them in and now I'm making money hand over fist. I also own Danzig and if the danish trade mission comes up again I suppose I'll try and get the last province too, last time I played the mission only required one of the provinces. The new events are cool but they also messed up my plans a little. I was integrating Holsten when an event fired where I could either take Schleswig and lose them as a vassal or pay 172 ducats to get them now, I of course took the second option. It came as a surprise because another event before that let me give up the core in Schleswig in exchange for some money too. So now I'm just focusing on the Baltic. Lithuania is independent and a rival, the emperor is saxony and Poland is a loyal ally. I'm focusing diplot points because I'm going exploration for my third idea and I know I'll be starved. I just hope something decent shows up near Greenland in the random new world. Feels good man.
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I'm taking it as a good sign that in my Iroquois game, England is my only valid rival. This despite the fact that I have no idea what the world looks like beyond North America and have never made a single ship in the whole game. I thought I'd grab the achievements for supporting rebels, but it seems like none of the natives around me have any valid rebels. I guess they've had a long enough time to consolidate even under the ai. I'm hoping once Newfoundland is free they'll have some valid rebels to support. If not I might have to pass up on this one until I play somewhere that isn't America.
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Nov 11, 2016 14:23
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I must be blind. I thought you were able to give a custom nation in a non feudal part of the world feudalism to start. Can't find the button to do so. 
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Nov 11, 2016 16:03
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Fintilgin posted:I must be blind. I thought you were able to give a custom nation in a non feudal part of the world feudalism to start. Can't find the button to do so. I'm pretty sure you just need to make your government non-tribal. That worked when I did it at least.
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Nov 11, 2016 16:09
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Fintilgin posted:I must be blind. I thought you were able to give a custom nation in a non feudal part of the world feudalism to start. Can't find the button to do so. You need to select one of the tech groups that start with feudalism (and not have a primitive gov type). Silent Banana fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Silent Banana posted:You need to select one of the tech groups that start with feudalism (and not have a primitive gov type). Ah, makes sense. I had a non primitive gov type, but I thought tech group didn't have any effect other than unit type any more.
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Nov 11, 2016 19:59
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Pellisworth posted:It looks to me like "Better Relations Over Time" which increased decay of AE and other relations modifiers and "Improve Relations" which just sped up the "Improve Relations" diplomatic mission have been merged, so it's actually a stealth buff. Diplomatic Ideas and being Protestant are better now, for example. It would be really nice if the Improved Relations modifier actually did something useful, like increase the cap on improving relations. Also that increased coring costs for trading in spices better be a bad joke.
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Fister Roboto posted:It would be really nice if the Improved Relations modifier actually did something useful, like increase the cap on improving relations. It's probably a bug; Paradox flips their negative and positive modifiers every so often.
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