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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Abandon the festering corpse of neoliberalism and support the PSL folks

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

The Nasty Woman meme sure took on a whole new dark as gently caress connotation.

Larry Parrish posted:

Abandon the festering corpse of neoliberalism and support the PSL folks

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The Nasty Woman meme sure took on a whole new dark as gently caress connotation.

ELABORATE!

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

lol fishmech is still posting in the D&D thread

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

quote:

Democrats quickly raised $2,800 in donations to go toward repairs to the GOP’s headquarters. “We're all just trying to move forward and do the right thing,” Bolton said.

Republicans have said they don't want the money.

The Republican Party of Virginia released a statement claiming, "Clinton campaign, the Democrat [sic] Party and their supporters in the media" fueled antagonism against their camp. State GOP Chair John Whitbeck indicated that he believes Democrats didn't step in to encourage an end to actions caused by the vandals.

:laffo:

CheesyDog
Jul 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I talked about wondering how millennials were going to handle regression of social issues in one of these drat threads, and it's not looking good...

My campus's LGBT group has canceled their weekly bowling night, citing "safety concerns" following the election. Apparently a drunk Trump supporter cursed at them this week... thus causing a group of 15 people to feel too unsafe to bowl.

A lot of young people are going to have to harden the gently caress up and fast.

Deimus
Aug 17, 2012

Larry Parrish posted:

Abandon the festering corpse of neoliberalism and support the PSL folks

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

Terror Sweat posted:

if you want to see some clintonista salt go to https://www.reddit.com/r/Enough_Sanders_Spam/
its hilarious how they refuse to look inward

"Kurt Eichenwald on Twitter: Hey @SusanSarandon! How many of the 22 mill ppl about to lose the health insurance will u buy policies for? #NarcissiticLimousineLiberal."

:stare:

Edit: also :ironicat:

Mister Fister has issued a correction as of 03:10 on Nov 11, 2016

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I need a gif of Homer Simpson with an H-> logo melting into the bush and reemerging with a red beret, cigar and Che Guevara beard

STAT

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

CheesyDog posted:

I talked about wondering how millennials were going to handle regression of social issues in one of these drat threads, and it's not looking good...

My campus's LGBT group has canceled their weekly bowling night, citing "safety concerns" following the election. Apparently a drunk Trump supporter cursed at them this week... thus causing a group of 15 people to feel too unsafe to bowl.

A lot of young people are going to have to harden the gently caress up and fast.

This whole wave the white flag at any provocation, is why the Hill Folk left is so bad right now.

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011

CheesyDog posted:

I talked about wondering how millennials were going to handle regression of social issues in one of these drat threads, and it's not looking good...

My campus's LGBT group has canceled their weekly bowling night, citing "safety concerns" following the election. Apparently a drunk Trump supporter cursed at them this week... thus causing a group of 15 people to feel too unsafe to bowl.

A lot of young people are going to have to harden the gently caress up and fast.

You're right, but you have to reach out to them. Making fun of them for being wrong helps nothing, and in fact makes it worse.

Fiction
Apr 28, 2011
Like I know all of you are having a good ol time playing the I-told-you-so game but unless you try to have a dialogue with people you know in frank terms you're just going to circle back to the mess we're now in.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

MaxxBot posted:

The fact that this forum which previously had a reputation as being uber-left politically had devolved into a hotbed of shameless DNC shills had started to slowly drive me insane, the fact that this did a complete 180 after her loss is probably one of the few silver linings of this shitshow.

Go check out the election and Aftermath threads in D&D. They ain't learned poo poo.

CheesyDog
Jul 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Fiction posted:

You're right, but you have to reach out to them. Making fun of them for being wrong helps nothing, and in fact makes it worse.

I'm not making fun, past being frustrated with their reaction. I see the club sponsor tomorrow and I'm going to talk to her about it.

WINNINGHARD
Oct 4, 2014

CheesyDog posted:

I talked about wondering how millennials were going to handle regression of social issues in one of these drat threads, and it's not looking good...

My campus's LGBT group has canceled their weekly bowling night, citing "safety concerns" following the election. Apparently a drunk Trump supporter cursed at them this week... thus causing a group of 15 people to feel too unsafe to bowl.

A lot of young people are going to have to harden the gently caress up and fast.

brutally owned by a drunk frat guy yelling human being ftw

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

Doorknob Slobber posted:

I made an (in hindsight) poorly made decision I would actually do stuff with democrats if Trump won. Damnit. Well I'm going to be the most vulgar annoying democrat ever, but I e-mailed my county's party asking what the gently caress I had to do to get rid of all the olds in the party

also anyone know who I need to e-mail in the WA state so I can yell at all those motherfuckers too? Their website is low info as possible it seems.

http://www.wa-democrats.org/about/board has the chair's email at least.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
oh snap thats awesome

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Larry Parrish posted:

Abandon the festering corpse of neoliberalism and support the PSL folks

Protest I dragged two of my friends to was lit and I signed up today

Telling everyone I know who still has hopes for the Dems to look into DSA, since it seems they want to be the US version of Momentum in the UK. IE, trying to seize control of the Dems/Labour for the left.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Wikkheiser posted:

I need a gif of Homer Simpson with an H-> logo melting into the bush and reemerging with a red beret, cigar and Che Guevara beard

STAT

it's not a .gif buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut

https://twitter.com/TheoRettich/status/796799151350628352

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Phi230 posted:

ELABORATE!

IT WAS TRUE!!! :suicide:

Paolomania
Apr 26, 2006

Fiction posted:

Like I know all of you are having a good ol time playing the I-told-you-so game but unless you try to have a dialogue with people you know in frank terms you're just going to circle back to the mess we're now in.

After all the poo poo we took in all the months after the NY primary I think we get a few good days of gently caress YOU.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Karl Barks posted:

lol fishmech is still posting in the D&D thread

Well you see he was technically right, and that's what is important right now.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Atrocious Joe posted:

Protest I dragged two of my friends to was lit and I signed up today

Telling everyone I know who still has hopes for the Dems to look into DSA, since it seems they want to be the US version of Momentum in the UK. IE, trying to seize control of the Dems/Labour for the left.

this is accurate. there was a movement member and labour party rep at our last DSA meeting

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
people are fully entitled to be sad and upset and angry

just make sure you channel those emotions into doing something, namely making sure the democratic party learns the correct lesson

Karl Barks posted:

this is accurate. there was a movement member and labour party rep at our last DSA meeting

what's the DSA exactly? is it a separate organization that's democratic party affiliated?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Mister Fister posted:

"Kurt Eichenwald on Twitter: Hey @SusanSarandon! How many of the 22 mill ppl about to lose the health insurance will u buy policies for? #NarcissiticLimousineLiberal."

:stare:

Edit: also :ironicat:

That depends, how much more child porn is he gonna buy?

MJ12
Apr 8, 2009

The Kingfish posted:

Right. The same type of pragmatism brought to us by Bill Clinton and third-wayism.

Bill Clinton and third-wayism were run, and worked at the time, because people were scared of socialism, scared of 'leftism,' and scared of anti-business redistribution so it was basically what they saw as the only way you could shift things to the left a bit-and in some real ways it worked. A populist progressive firebrand trying to run on a Sanders-like ticket in 1992 or 1996, during an economic boom where everyone was getting rich would be a longshot. Maybe the party should have gotten the message in 2004 that the Republicans are going to be better at being centrist and pandering to right-wing fears than you are most of the time, and Bill definitely sowed the wind that led to Hillary reaping the whirlwind, but like, not every long-term mistake is some sort of malicious evil or gross incompetence.

I don't think it's healthy to act like everyone major in Clinton's camp was evil and/or incompetent because that leads into a circular firing squad mentality. They hosed up. They should own it, apologize for loving up, talk frankly about what went wrong, and give the tools that can be salvaged to people like Sanders who can use them better.

But in any sort of battle, whether it's political or military, loving up is the gold standard and it's hard to not gently caress up.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

this is hilarious

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Why take over the Democratic Party when you can shatter the two party system.

Deimus
Aug 17, 2012

Larry Parrish posted:

Why take over the Democratic Party when you can shatter the two party system.

Dems will never learn.

Concordat
Mar 4, 2007

Secondary Objective: Commit Fraud - Complete

Larry Parrish posted:

Abandon the festering corpse of neoliberalism and support the PSL folks

PSL?

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Larry Parrish posted:

Why take over the Democratic Party when you can shatter the two party system.

Because that's not going to happen.

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

So, full socialism now?

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Larry Parrish posted:

Why take over the Democratic Party when you can shatter the two party system.

no third party has the country-wide infrastructure the dems have. this is why it's so important to try to convince people to own the gently caress-up so they have to acknowledge that they need to change

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

Basically the Judean People's Front.

Well What Now
Nov 10, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Shredded Hen

bump_fn posted:

no third party has the country-wide infrastructure the dems have. this is why it's so important to try to convince people to own the gently caress-up so they have to acknowledge that they need to change

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011


Party for Socialism and Liberation

http://www.pslweb.org/

MJ12
Apr 8, 2009

Larry Parrish posted:

Why take over the Democratic Party when you can shatter the two party system.

Hey if Trump and centrism are so awful that you can actually run a progressive socialist against Trump and a milquetoast generic Democrat candidate and win against both, go for it. But that's unnecessary risk when it looks like the democratic party is perfectly willing to hand over its infrastructure and tools to said socialist if he can not scare them for long enough.

Optimus Subprime
Mar 26, 2005

Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas?

We'll know we're really boned when the next democratic candidate doesn't campaign on expanding medicare on the corpse of the ACA.

The bones of the DNC need not be abandoned, but co-opted for a true leftist labor party. No more neo-liberal identity party bullshit.

Also, rename this subforum to LF.

Optimus Subprime has issued a correction as of 03:28 on Nov 11, 2016

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Well What Now posted:

Basically the Judean People's Front.

haHA!!!! what a good reference that has never before been used in talking about socialist orgs!!!! great work!!!!

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Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

C-Euro posted:

Didn't see this in the last few pages-
https://twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/796476782719500289

That probably needs to get fixed, right? (as in spreading out more, not voting them all out)

The mood right now is that Democrats seem to be incapable of realizing they need more than blue coastal strongholds to govern the country. People are still screaming about the popular vote and not realizing that running up the score in California and New York doesn't mean a goddamn thing if you lose the entire Rust Belt because you somehow forgot to make it a priority.

Democrats need to realize middle America is a must win group and find ways to consistently bring them on board. Obama did it twice! The electorate is already out there! They aren't even the racist boogeymen the WokeLords are crying about. They just want someone to give a poo poo about their dead unions and dying towns, and maybe recognize that all of civilization is not found within 50 miles of an ocean.

WokeLords need to stop being so prejudiced against white voters if they want to get anywhere. Especially white rural voters.

E: They probably won't though. Theyre gonna double down on racism, both their own prejudices and as a label for people they look down on

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