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BadOptics posted:Oh poo poo, you sure got me. You know if you think about it no human society was purely just so we should just all self-select for extinction. I'm ok with the extinction of America. The people have spoken anyway.
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Rated PG-34 posted:Yeah, I'm conceding that. Awesome, I'm glad this dumb derail is over.
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Rated PG-34 posted:Lol. I'm referring to the anti-communism ideology that helped justify many an atrocity. I have absolutely no idea what the point of your argument is.
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Rated PG-34 posted:I'm ok with the extinction of America. The people have spoken anyway. I'm not. America is the only thing standing in the way of Chinese and Russian imperialism.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:49
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Yeah, America has the good imperialism.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:49
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Odobenidae posted:Yeah, America has the good imperialism. This is unironically correct.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:50
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MickeyFinn posted:Nope, you buy the whole hog, son, not just the tasty bacon. If you don't like the two party system, fix it. 100% of Trump supporters are racist because they voted for a racist, except for Trump because he is that racist. leave bacon out of this. bacon never did nothing to no one
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Nov 11, 2016 06:51
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Odobenidae posted:Yeah, America has the good imperialism.
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mcmagic posted:Also, don't call him president elect or president. Call him Trump. Or racist piece of poo poo. He is the president elect and is going to be the president in a couple months
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Nov 11, 2016 06:50
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Fojar38 posted:This is unironically correct. I'm sure the people of Iran and South America feel that way.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:51
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Monaghan posted:I'm sure the people of Iran and South America feel that way. Yeah it's definitely America that's loving the Iranian people and not the fact that they're a theocracy.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:51
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Not gonna happen. Do you realize what a sloppy BJ the media would've given him if he had apologized to Obama today for birtherism and he couldn't even bring himself to do that token gesture.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:52
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mcmagic posted:Yeah Trump only got 63% of the vote in Kentucky. obama's biggest failures were: a) not prosecuting bush's torture program, opening door for trump to bring it back b) fbi director comey as bipartisan gesture that went nowhere, who apparently if reporting from both trump and clinton camps can be believed, singlehandedly delivered election to trump with that bullshit last-second stunt
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Nov 11, 2016 06:53
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Odobenidae posted:Yeah, America has the good imperialism. About to be made Great!
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mcmagic posted:Not gonna happen. Do you realize what a sloppy BJ the media would've given him if he had apologized to Obama today for birtherism and he couldn't even bring himself to do that. To be perfectly honest I felt a degree of palpable relief that his acceptance speech wasn't literally Sideshow Bob's.
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Fojar38 posted:Yeah it's definitely America that's loving the Iranian people and not the fact that they're a theocracy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
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Rated PG-34 posted:Yeah, you're right that those derails would be annoying. I can get behind some general ideological ground rules such as not espousing genocide or racism/sexism. Congratulations, you just agreed with us that nazis not being allowed to post here is totally fine and good. What the gently caress was the point of your stupid argument again? What else do you think constitutes the tenets of National Socialism, exactly? e: I see you conceded that point towards bottom of last page so don't feel like you have to reply, glad this is done with PKJC fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:obama's biggest failures were: That seat on the court is 30 years of progressive victories down the toilet.
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Oracle posted:Everytime I've seen this exchange on my facebook, said conservative parents counter with pictures of angry college kids in California torching poo poo and flipping the bird at cops or the video of the white guy who was beat up in Chicago during a traffic altercation during which some black folks accused him of being a Trump voter, or just outright call bullshit and that it didn't happen and were all 'false flag' or 'oh no someone wrote Trump on a door, I need my safe space' (they really need to change the first picture in that link for the tl;dr crowd, its way too easy to dismiss) Also, by the way, one of the neo-nazi attack claims was false, therefore all of them are false. So enjoy that argument, by the way.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:obama's biggest failures were: b should honestly be expanded to cover all of Obama's doomed attempts at bi-partisanship I also don't think the last minute EMAILS letter was reason Trump won.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:54
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Actually, thing happened 60 years ago, thereby absolving the Iranian government of being lovely.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:obama's biggest failures were: I would argue not prosecuting Wall Street executives is high on the list as well.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:56
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HOT TAKE: American imperialism is bad, but replacing it with Russian and Chinese imperialism is not some sort of victory that should be celebrated. If Ukraine wants to be in America's orbit, they should be allowed to, just as much as Nicaragua should be allowed in Russia's.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:55
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I like that the New England liberal tells us no war but the class war, stand for poor white people and then in the next breath dismisses Republicans backdoor banning abortion with "it will only affect poor people in red states." Gee I wonder why the poor white women don't matter in this context.
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Nov 11, 2016 06:56
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Fojar38 posted:Actually, thing happened 70 years ago, thereby absolving the Iranian government of being lovely. you just loving said that american's had good imperialism. They overthrew a democratically elected government but that's okay. If you want a more recent example was Iraq good imperialism? When did the imperialism become acceptable? Also a huge factor which led to the current theocracy in Iran was the 1953 cou. But nice strawman of me saying that the Iranian government was good. Monaghan fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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https://twitter.com/thehill/status/796908320179318784 "It was about ~~~*~*~*ECONOMIC PRIORITIES*~*~*~~~" -Way too many loving people here. See now I'm getting angry, but that's better than the crippling uncertainty of the last day or so. It's becoming very clear that this has emboldened the disgusting underbelly of this nation. Actually no. It's not the underbelly. It's not toothless, backwoods hicks out of a Lovecraft story ignorant of and sequestered from the modern world. These people are teachers, gas station owners, sheriffs, Lawyers, the person buying overpriced kale chips in Whole Foods, and the guy who does IT at the start up next door. And this is what we have to watch out for. It was a funny joke 48 hours ago that I'd be on the rear end end of the world for work when this garbage fire took office so "haha! Maybe I'll just stay in Antarctica!". Well now I have to worry about my brothers, my best friend, my cousins, my coworkers, people who I care about BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE TO loving HELP THEM WHEN ONE OF THESE GUYS DECIDES TO START poo poo WITH THEM. I can't loving call 911 from tens of thousands of miles away, and even if I could I'm not sure if the police I get a hold of will give a poo poo. And to anyone who's going to tell me chill and "it's just a bunch of STDH.txt no ones doing that": My brother's already had people give him poo poo just today. But I still don't have a drat plan that'll help. So all y'all who are tell us and telling yourselves that this was about economics, or lower taxes, or better jobs: I hope you take that money and buy a great loving pillow to help you sleep at night.
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SoggyBobcat posted:So we were the bad guys all along, and maybe Nazis should be allowed a platform on how to fix this? No. Just that all ideologies can lead to poo poo. We have to recognize and condemn the poo poo. If someone espouses genocide, then that should be recognized regardless of ideology.
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Nov 11, 2016 07:00
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If the US Alliance system constitutes American imperialism then there sure are a lot of foreign leaders and citizens worried America is about to stop being imperialistic.
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American imperialism is bad and wrong and we do some seriously bad poo poo. A Putin or Chinese hegemony would be massively worse however.
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American Imperialism is imperialism on a global scale that no other country has ever been able to achieve before and thinking that Russia or China or Russia And China would be worse is pointless because it's dealing with an imaginary enemy that doesn't exist.
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Guy Goodbody posted:I also don't think the last minute EMAILS letter was reason Trump won. Trump's data team thinks it was
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Odobenidae posted:American Imperialism is imperialism on a global scale that no other country has ever been able to achieve before so thinking that Russia or China or Russia And China would be worse is pointless because it's dealing with an imaginary enemy that doesn't exist. Also true. I strongly disagree with Iron Rose's garbage "American hegemony is good, keep it going forever, oppress anyone who disagrees abroad," but American foreign policy is capable of doing good things. We just don't. That's another thing too. This garbage rhetoric about "we can't ship jobs overseas, bring back the jobs" and that Trump voter who was like "gosh we can't accept refugees Americans could use that money!" exposes that America is a horrible global leader and Americans don't give a gently caress about the foreign poor. The world is hosed. Edit: given that Hillary lost by 130,000 mostly white college educated or female votes from people who were polling liberal I wouldn't be surprised if emails really did do her in at the end. gently caress Comey.
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Crain posted:
I get why you are upset. But the economic priorities is the answer to the specific question of why segments of the population that went to Obama in states that flipped went for Trump. Not why KKK members and tea partiers did.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Also, by the way, one of the neo-nazi attack claims was false, therefore all of them are false. So enjoy that argument, by the way.
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Lightning Knight posted:Also true. The dumb thing about refugees (which holy gently caress I still can't believe I heard the whole "Those resources should go to the poor instead!" like the GOP gives a gently caress about them) is that the amount we'd let in is so INFINITESIMAL compared the the 300 million people already here. If 10,000 Syrians are all that it's gonna take to collapse our economy then we might as well just let China and Russia divvy up the country right now.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Also, by the way, one of the neo-nazi attack claims was false, therefore all of them are false. So enjoy that argument, by the way. Why would you even do that?
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BadOptics posted:The dumb thing about refugees (which holy gently caress I still can't believe I heard the whole "Those resources should go to the poor instead!" like the GOP gives a gently caress about them) is that the amount we'd let in is so INFINITESIMAL compared the the 300 million people already here. If 10,000 Syrians are all that it's gonna take to collapse our economy then we might as well just let China and Russia divvy up the country right now. Well yeah it's preposterous. Even the American left gives no fucks about foreign poor people tho. Sure we want to stop bombing them but everybody always circles back to America first. You can't escape stupid rear end FYGM and in the mean time we wonder why the world hates us. It's almost like we've forgotten one of the prime lessons of the Soviet Union: socialism cannot survive in one nation alone.
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Lightning Knight posted:Well yeah it's preposterous. The world doesn't hate the US.
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