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Mixodorian
Jan 26, 2009

blackguy32 posted:

What the hell is the deal? Dexo just provided proof about all economic white classes supporting Trump and people are getting upset?

I know it's tough but realize that these people basically voted for white supremacy and it's not surprising at all.

I work as an analyst at a financial firm in Manhattan and all my white, indian, and asian coworkers were in for Trump.

Eej posted:

Every time someone in the past few days has said that you can't beat systemic racism with force my face turns into a gigantic god drat :thinking_face: emoji as I picture the National Guard escorting black kids to school.

I think force is required.

Mixodorian fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Nov 11, 2016

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Captain Failcon
Jul 19, 2008

dill with it

Eej posted:

Every time someone in the past few days has said that you can't beat systemic racism with force my face turns into a gigantic god drat :thinking_face: emoji as I picture the National Guard escorting black kids to school.

the kids would do fine on their own with all the guns they have

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Mixodorian posted:

I work as an analyst at a financial firm in Manhattan and all my white, indian, and asian coworkers were in for Trump.

Then they all voted for white supremacy, and racism too? Even if not directly they still voted for someone who built his campaign on enacting racist white supremacist policies.

I never said only White people voted for him...

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

DrPaper posted:

It didn't break any of them, and you're breaking D&D rules with your posts friend! D&D should be better than this, instead you're all resorting to Glenn Beck style tantruming and insanity. It's embarrassing.

Goodbye, and don't come back.

Your posts will be ignored at best, shunned and told to get the gently caress to steppin at worst.

Captain Failcon posted:

the kids would do fine on their own with all the guns they have


Get the gently caress out of here with this racist poo poo.

Mixodorian
Jan 26, 2009

Dexo posted:

Then they all voted for white supremacy, and racism too? Even if not directly they still voted for someone who built his campaign on enacting racist white supremacist policies.

I never said only White people voted for him...

I was replying to blackguy32, so if what I said sounded like it was clashing with something you said it wasn't intentional.

The point I was trying to make is yeah, they are all implicit in that poo poo. AFAIK, they didn't vote FOR the racism, just in spite of it which has the same effect in the end. They think they'll all become hot shots and think Trump will be better for finance people.

Nobody truly cares about black people except for ourselves. If another group thinks they can gain something by selling us out, the majority of them always will.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Grognan posted:

Move to Africa and embody your vows. We'll fix this country and help everyone.

"Let's tell the black people to go back to Africa, so we can finally get our country back on track. Really, it's their fault for being so divisive."

Whether you're doing the dolchstoss thing I mentioned, or you're actually celebrating the victory of the iceberg, it is extremely stupid and racist. Especially combined with doubling down in the face of being immediately proven wrong when you said:

quote:

except for the poor ones, you dumb poo poo.

You might be mad or just excited, but either way, black people aren't your punching bag, poo poo-stain.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Captain Failcon posted:

the kids would do fine on their own with all the guns they have

I feel like I wasn't clear enough with my desegregation reference now.

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Mixodorian posted:

I was replying to blackguy32, so if what I said sounded like it was clashing with something you said it wasn't intentional.

The point I was trying to make is yeah, they are all implicit in that poo poo. AFAIK, they didn't vote FOR the racism, just in spite of it which has the same effect in the end. They think they'll all become hot shots and think Trump will be better for finance people.

Nobody truly cares about black people except for ourselves. If another group thinks they can gain something by selling us out, the majority of them always will.

Yet when white supremacy shows them that they are just as vulnerable as we are, the FIRST thing they do is come crying to black people asking us to use our groups and institutions to fight for them.

gently caress that poo poo, that poo poo is dead.

Eej posted:

I feel like I wasn't clear enough with my desegregation reference now.

You were, he's just a racist piece of poo poo.

CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Mixodorian posted:

I work as an analyst at a financial firm in Manhattan and all my white, indian, and asian coworkers were in for Trump.


"The Asian-American National Election Eve Poll concluded that 75% of Asian Americans voted for Clinton, while only 19% voted for Donald Trump—a much wider margin than found by exit polls, which reported 65% of Asian Americans voting for Clinton."

http://fusion.net/story/368617/exit-polls-asian-americans-supported-trump/

DrPaper
Aug 29, 2011

negromancer posted:

Goodbye, and don't come back.

Your posts will be ignored at best, shunned and told to get the gently caress to steppin at worst.


Get the gently caress out of here with this racist poo poo.

Just because you're the OP of a thread doesn't mean you get to disbar discussion that doesn't break forum rules, or your own self-presented rules for your thread which you have no authority or power to moderate, let alone continually break D&D rules yourself.

The only way we can salvage this country now that Trump is in office is to work with our fellow liberals and people of color and make sure this doesn't happen next election, instead of shouting "RACIST! GET THE gently caress OUT!" at people trying to have reasonable discussion while you're still in the middle of your emotional freak out.

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negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

DrPaper posted:

Just because you're the OP of a thread doesn't mean you get to disbar discussion that doesn't break forum rules, or your own self-presented rules for your thread which you have no authority or power to moderate, let alone continually break D&D rules yourself.

The only way we can salvage this country now that Trump is in office is to work with our fellow liberals and people of color and make sure this doesn't happen next year, instead of shouting "RACIST! GET THE gently caress OUT!" at people trying to have reasonable discussion while you're still in the middle of your emotional freak out.

Except those rules were signed off on by multiple mods and an admin, so maybe you might want to shut the gently caress up and get the gently caress out.

We're pretty much done with you white liberals that feel the need to come into black spaces and tut tut us while being completely silent around the racist white people in your circle of family and friends.

You're shitposting and derailing the point of this thread, so in fact you're loving things up.

In short, gently caress you, get out.

negromancer fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Nov 11, 2016

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

DrPaper posted:

It didn't break any of them, and you're breaking D&D rules with your posts friend! D&D should be better than this, instead you're all resorting to Glenn Beck style tantruming and insanity. It's embarrassing.

I tried to come up with a post about how it's mega demoralizing and depressing to see people i thought were my allies turn incredibly quickly for voicing honest concerns if it deals with matters of race, but now I see ya'll just straight up doing drive by attacks using the same hosed language you see from racists when somebody gets too loud.

It's hosed, I hate it, what the gently caress am I supposed to do to help myself and the ones I love if this is how the people who are supposed to help me are thinking just like the people who hate me. If that's all it takes to turn a self-professed liberal virulent why trust any of you that you have our best interests at heart.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Captain Failcon posted:

the kids would do fine on their own with all the guns they have

Haha, the joke is that black children are dying. What fun we're having in this debate and or discussion.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

DrPaper posted:

Just because you're the OP of a thread doesn't mean you get to disbar discussion that doesn't break forum rules, or your own self-presented rules for your thread which you have no authority or power to moderate, let alone continually break D&D rules yourself.

The only way we can salvage this country now that Trump is in office is to work with our fellow liberals and people of color and make sure this doesn't happen next election, instead of shouting "RACIST! GET THE gently caress OUT!" at people trying to have reasonable discussion while you're still in the middle of your emotional freak out.

Why don't you go post in USPol about it, that's not the topic of this thread.

DrPaper
Aug 29, 2011

negromancer posted:

Except those rules were signed off on by multiple mods and an admin, so maybe you might want to shut the gently caress up and get the gently caress out.

We're pretty much done with you white liberals that feel the need to come into black spaces and tut tut us while being completely silent around the racist white people in your circle of family and friends.

In short, gently caress you, get out.

And you're not a mod or an admin, so you're not the one to enforce those rules - nor does it make you exempt from the D&D rules at large.

I'm not white, nor am I silent about racist people in circle of family or friends. It's a pretty hosed up claim that the only people who don't want you making a joke of their race by screaming everyone is a racist would have to be white, and that finding your tantrums non-constructive it means I'm silent to racism experienced by me or around me.

Mixodorian
Jan 26, 2009

negromancer posted:

Yet when white supremacy shows them that they are just as vulnerable as we are, the FIRST thing they do is come crying to black people asking us to use our groups and institutions to fight for them.

gently caress that poo poo, that poo poo is dead.

That's the truth. Then they get all indignant when we get aggravated by that poo poo.

check this poo poo out:

http://www.nypddesisociety.org/

http://www.nypdajs.org/

http://www.nypdhs.com/

Indians, asians, and latinos have their own little NYPD societies... lol

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

DrPaper posted:

And you're not a mod or an admin, so you're not the one to enforce those rules - nor does it make you exempt from the D&D rules at large.

I'm not white, nor am I silent about racist people in circle of family or friends. It's a pretty hosed up claim that the only people who don't want you making a joke of their race by screaming everyone is a racist would have to be white, and that finding your tantrums non-constructive it means I'm silent to racism experienced by me or around me.

You're posting off topic, why don't you go post in USPol?

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

DrPaper posted:

And you're not a mod or an admin, so you're not the one to enforce those rules - nor does it make you exempt from the D&D rules at large.

I'm not white, nor am I silent about racist people in circle of family or friends. It's a pretty hosed up claim that the only people who don't want you making a joke of their race by screaming everyone is a racist would have to be white, and that finding your tantrums non-constructive it means I'm silent to racism experienced by me or around me.

Go post in USPOL while you can.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


DrPaper posted:

The only way we can salvage this country now that Trump is in office is to work with our fellow liberals and people of color and make sure this doesn't happen next election, instead of shouting "RACIST! GET THE gently caress OUT!" at people trying to have reasonable discussion while you're still in the middle of your emotional freak out.

Things were very calm in this thread post-election, until Grognan et. al started in.

When you say that you're being reasonable, and need people of color to work forwith you, and that they're being loud and emotional when they aren't (despite having more than every right to be), you aren't helping to salvage the country. Or at least, not the country which they live in.

There are two Americas, and you're trying to fix the wrong one.

Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Doc Hawkins posted:

"Let's tell the black people to go back to Africa, so we can finally get our country back on track. Really, it's their fault for being so divisive."

not what I said, thanks for the fair shake.

Negromancer is literally the black version of wanting to flee to Canada because he's rich enough to do it and oh god why are people so mean to me because I do not understand why people do the things they do.

Captain Failcon
Jul 19, 2008

dill with it

Doc Hawkins posted:

Things were very calm in this thread post-election, until Grognan et. al started in.

When you say that you're being reasonable, and need people of color to work forwith you




I don't pick the cotton myself

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negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Grognan posted:

not what I said, thanks for the fair shake.

Negromancer is literally the black version of wanting to flee to Canada because he's rich enough to do it and oh god why are people so mean to me because I do not understand why people do the things they do.

Yeah, because black people fleeing the racism in America is so wildly unreasonable.

Goodbye.

You're a shitposting moron who is doubling down on your shitposting.

Captain Failcon
Jul 19, 2008

dill with it
hes not even black

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Grognan posted:

not what I said, thanks for the fair shake.

Negromancer is literally the black version of wanting to flee to Canada because he's rich enough to do it and oh god why are people so mean to me because I do not understand why people do the things they do.

Why did you attack me personally though? I don't know you and did nothing to aggrieve you as far as I know.

Why is it okay to just jump into a space and start slinging poo poo at black posters? I don't know you or your politics, I want answers cause I'm honestly incredibly down right now.

I'm demanding them from you.

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Sharkopath posted:

Why did you attack me personally though? I don't know you and did nothing to aggrieve you as far as I know.

Why is it okay to just jump into a space and start slinging poo poo at black posters? I don't know you or your politics, I want answers cause I'm honestly incredibly down right now.

I'm demanding them from you.

He's been asked to leave.

Respect the space.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

negromancer posted:

He's been asked to leave.

Respect the space.

Sorry, sorry.

Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Woah, so he's some other identity and he's too woke for thou that's spinning hot takes about how the poor are poo poo.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and it seems like I was presumptuous.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Sharkopath posted:

Why did you attack me personally though? I don't know you and did nothing to aggrieve you as far as I know.

Why is it okay to just jump into a space and start slinging poo poo at black posters? I don't know you or your politics, I want answers cause I'm honestly incredibly down right now.

I'm demanding them from you.

They're angry Trump won and looking for a scapegoat and they want the black posters here to bow their heads and admit ~* identity politics *~ is bad and is the reason Trump won when it's really because white people didn't show up to vote for Hillary AND a lot of white people and people of color just stayed home.

It's a multifaceted problem. Racism is a huge part of it, maybe the biggest part, even if only because racism and ~* identity politics *~ are the massive underpinning of all politics and political discourse in this country. You can ignore it at your peril but history bares it out.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
I mean this guy is trolling don't give him legitimacy.

DrPaper
Aug 29, 2011

Doc Hawkins posted:

Things were very calm in this thread post-election, until Grognan et. al started in.

When you say that you're being reasonable, and need people of color to work forwith you, and that they're being loud and emotional when they aren't (despite having more than every right to be), you aren't helping to salvage the country. Or at least, not the country which they live in.

There are two Americas, and you're trying to fix the wrong one.

I did not say people of color are being loud and emotional, I said negromancer is, and he is. He's fervently telling every poster who doesn't see everything the way he does, despite also not being happy Trump won at such a vitriol he isn't even reading the posts half the time.

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there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
Pretty sure he's saying white people are poo poo in general; he's just not exempting white poors.

Edited to add: and that makes some people mad because they desperately want a revolution in the lower class without having to deal with the racism issue.

there wolf fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Nov 11, 2016

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Grognan posted:

not what I said, thanks for the fair shake.

I think if you had wanted the benefit of the doubt, you would have approached this incursion differently.

quote:

Negromancer is literally the black version of wanting to flee to Canada because he's rich enough to do it and oh god why are people so mean to me because I do not understand why people do the things they do.

Not understanding why this is an fundamentally false equivalence requires a willful and breathtaking ignorance in the service of white supremacy. In other words:

negromancer posted:

Yeah, because black people fleeing the racism in America is so wildly unreasonable.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

DrPaper posted:

I did not say people of color are being loud and emotional, I said negromancer is, and he is. He's fervently telling every poster who doesn't see everything the way he does, despite also not being happy Trump won at such a vitriol he isn't even reading the posts half the time.

He isn't being loud or emotional. Take your hot takes to GBS.

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Trabisnikof posted:

He isn't being loud or emotional. Take your hot takes to GBS.

Please ignore and report the derailing posters. This is not what this space is for.

Let them take their hot takes to USPOL or GBS.

This is not the place for it.

Tell them to leave and report them.

Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

there wolf posted:

Pretty sure he's saying white people are poo poo in general; he's just not exempting white poors.

Is saying whole races of people are poo poo acceptable and ok if they are on "our" side?

Have some goddamn self awareness.

Fuckit: If you get your way and get banned for this, I reserve a loving poor people thread. Because that is a bigger loving demo than simply IDing as black and has more political adversaries.

Grognan fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Nov 11, 2016

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Grognan posted:

Is saying whole races of people are poo poo acceptable and ok if they are on "our" side?

Have some goddamn self awareness.

This is not the space for you or your opinions.

Goodbye.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


DrPaper posted:

I did not say people of color are being loud and emotional, I said negromancer is, and he is. He's fervently telling every poster who doesn't see everything the way he does, despite also not being happy Trump won at such a vitriol he isn't even reading the posts half the time.

You're mistaken. Read the OP. Optionally read the QCS discussion which preceded it. He's trying to be responsible for keeping a poo poo-magnet clean.

e:

negromancer posted:

Please ignore and report the derailing posters. This is not what this space is for.

Sorry, done.

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
e: nvm.

negromancer
Aug 20, 2014

by FactsAreUseless

Grognan posted:


Fuckit: If you get your way and get banned for this, I reserve a loving poor people thread. Because that is a bigger loving demo than simply IDing as black and has more political adversaries.

Lucky for you there's already a thread for that.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3788023%5C

Take your poo poo opinions there and leave this thread.

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Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Wait wait, was this thread was started by some white rear end motherfucker that felt guilty over black things that he is doubling down like the embodiment of white guilt so hard he got a black panther avatar?

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