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500562 | 49.92% | ||
139 | 0.01% | ||
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500888 | 49.95% | ||
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btws actually weird until u said the words "make mental notes"
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:39 |
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Oh Snapple! posted:yeah taking another shot at college made it abundantly clear to me that conservatism is going nowhere. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html?_r=1 Blame the turnout numbers of Millennials, but the general stance isn't the issue (yet, until they get older).
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:40 |
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:41 |
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Al! posted:btws actually weird until u said the words "make mental notes" it's weird that you're being a poo poo over something like this
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:41 |
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Plinkey posted:This could have worked if there was a more coherent message on the fact that we're a post assembly line worker country, but that doesn't mean we can't manufacture things that are more technology oriented, better then a rest of the world...etc. Hell I think even if she focused on infrastructure more and educating the workforce for new jobs in technology based manufacturing she would have done way better in PA. Decius posted:
I hadn't noticed the non-white college graduates voted for Trump more than non-white non-college graduates.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:43 |
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Oh Snapple! posted:it's weird that you're being a poo poo over something like this no its weird you're saying im weird
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:43 |
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If you take out the actual candidate on left issues Millennials are a huge jump from the previous generation. Most poo poo head people my age at the very least have an open mind.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:43 |
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Portland is handing conservatives long term control, so this is gonna suck
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:43 |
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Al! posted:no its weird you're saying im weird it's weird that you think that's weird
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:45 |
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Admiral Ray posted:Oh yeah, lying during a campaign is, like, the thing to do to get votes. Then you've just gotta be seen trying to fulfill those promises.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:46 |
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Oh Snapple! posted:it's weird that you think that's weird ok are you guys gonna gently caress now or what
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:46 |
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Slamhound posted:But what, exactly, did he offer them? Change. Is that so hard to understand? We've been calling him the "chaos candidate" for so long...they don't know what he's going to do, but they know it's gonna be different. And they believe, accurately or not, that NOBODY is going to be pulling his strings financially. He doesn't need anything, he doesn't want anything...he can just do. If you can't understand this, then you will never understand how he won.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:47 |
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Plinkey posted:No, any new manufacturing will most likely be in the south because of weaker labor laws. Jesus loving Christ, dude. I specifically started this line of inquiry because of your post: Plinkey posted:Yeah, it's almost like hillary should have gotten behind the disenfranchised lower to middle class in the rust belt with something other than 'it'll be fine, don't worry, here's lady gaga' The only viable response to your concern is one that you specifically understand to be untenable to that concern. Furthermore: Oiled and Ready posted:Likely to happen? Probably in some form. It's overdue, will enjoy bipartisan public support and can be done with the stroke of a pen - it isnt a 2000 mile long concrete physical structure, for example. Given all this, I ask again, what exactly does Trump offer the rust belt that differs from Hillary's "it'll be fine, don't worry"? If he offers nothing, then why the criticism of Clinton?
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:48 |
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you know when he went to "black" areas but actually spoke to white people? and you know how his message was "what the hell do you have to lose"?
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:48 |
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Vox Nihili posted:ok are you guys gonna gently caress now or what i'm not that easy. you're looking at least a 3 page fight for that to even be on the table.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:48 |
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DryGoods posted:During these dark times I can't help but look back and wonder, what if? Maybe we should have all just listened to Lincoln Chafee from the beginning.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:49 |
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och th' milk drinkers need a well 'ard bevvy innitOh Snapple! posted:i'm not that easy. you're looking at least a 3 page fight for that to even be on the table. Ah blaw it oot yer butt n hae a dram
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:48 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHkPadFK34o this video is still just its just amazing lol repost it forever
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:50 |
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navyjack posted:Change. Is that so hard to understand? We've been calling him the "chaos candidate" for so long...they don't know what he's going to do, but they know it's gonna be different. And they believe, accurately or not, that NOBODY is going to be pulling his strings financially. lmao
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:51 |
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wait whos fuckin who n how do i get involved
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:50 |
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I want to see the universe were O'mally wins the nomination
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:51 |
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Lastgirl posted:och th' milk drinkers need a well 'ard bevvy innit this is a new america. we need fresh vision, fresher memes that milk is stale
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:51 |
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Slamhound posted:
This isn't a complete answer by any stretch but for starters, he talked mad poo poo about NAFTA which Hillary, married to its signatory, could or would not.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:51 |
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Doctor Spaceman posted:you know when he went to "black" areas but actually spoke to white people? lol you know how he got a higher % of african-american voters than Romney
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:53 |
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I just saw the Deju Q episode of Star Trek: TNG and it reminded me so much what has happened this past week and what is in store for the future.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:53 |
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Slamhound posted:
I think they think the factories will come back to the places they were before. I've never heard the "south has lax labor laws now" thing even though it should be obvious (I live in Kentucky, lots of plants here) and I doubt they factored it in. It seems easy to make the empty assumption that the reasons the factories were there to start with still exist today without NAFTA.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:54 |
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anime was right posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHkPadFK34o This guy who is not singer/songwriter Elliot Smith seems pretty cool and I hope he becomes chair
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:53 |
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Venom Snake posted:I want to see the universe were O'mally wins the nomination its called the wire real 💯 good show fam 👍👍 peep it 👌👌👌 Vox Nihili posted:this is a new america. we need fresh vision, fresher memes when has milk ever not been stale and gross to drink? if u come between me and this ill cvt ye
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:53 |
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crazy cloud posted:lol you know how he got a higher % of african-american voters than Romney Misogyny, duh But really though
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:55 |
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Decius posted:
lol
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:57 |
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crazy cloud posted:lol you know how he got a higher % of african-american voters than Romney yeah, and worse than Bush did in either of his elections "Clinton less successful amongst black voters than Obama" isn't some massive surprise
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:57 |
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also
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:58 |
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Maybe it was Time Kaine that hurt the black vote. Think about it.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:58 |
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If I had to guess it's because they put trade agreements under FP as opposed to economy.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:58 |
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crazy cloud posted:Yeah when the president is black it's unamerican to drop n-bombs, but when the president is orange it's patriotic to do so n-bomb = normie ??
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 08:59 |
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a.lo posted:Maybe it was Time Kaine that hurt the black vote. Think about it.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 09:01 |
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Man Musk posted:n-bomb = normie ?? woww wtf mods???????
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 09:01 |
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Slamhound posted:Jesus loving Christ, dude. I specifically started this line of inquiry because of your post: Ok, I see where you're coming from, the difference in my mind is that the people of the rural rust belt will get less hosed under Clinton but she didn't make that point, at all. There are safety nets in place at the federal level through the ACA and other programs like that, which she didn't harp on, you even had Bill calling the ACA a mess. Are they still hosed unless there's a change in how the economy works around the great lakes, probably, but to a lesser extent when they are unemployed and no one will sign them up for health care because they have whatever existing conditions. Could manufacturing come back to the areas? Probably but I doubt it in any measurable extent but at least you have someone in the white house that's going to offer up/improve programs for these people specifically, and having the richer america pay for it because they are the beneficiaries of the last 8 years, they've been hosed over for like 10+ years not seeing incomes go up and hearing about how great the economy is. I don't blame any of them for voting trump because he straight up said external factors are the reason they are hurting which is a comforting thing to hear, but I think it's short sighted.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 09:02 |
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crazy cloud posted:This isn't a complete answer by any stretch but for starters, he talked mad poo poo about NAFTA which Hillary, married to its signatory, could or would not. Oiled and Ready posted:I think they think the factories will come back to the places they were before. I've never heard the "south has lax labor laws now" thing even though it should be obvious (I live in Kentucky, lots of plants here) and I doubt they factored it in. It seems easy to make the empty assumption that the reasons the factories were there to start with still exist today without NAFTA. The broader point I'm making between swigging milk from my sippy cup, is that the criticisms of Hillary that are being made don't hold up to any reasonable scrutiny given Trump's platform. That's not to say she can't be criticized, it's to say that she needs to be properly criticized.
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 09:02 |
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# ? Jun 4, 2024 21:43 |
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Lastgirl posted:its called the wire ugh what is with this forum and cheap scotch, drink american if youre gonna drink cheap ya stinkos! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Nov 11, 2016 09:03 |