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Homework Explainer posted:well there was a world war on for starters Yes, the Marxist-Leninist source is "History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (bolshevik)" - https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1939/x01/index.htm Basically it goes through all the strains of opportunism that the bolsheviks had to contend with, the majority of which we are still fighting with today (social democracy, economism, anarchism etc) - laying out the "road to revolution" with the marxist theory to go with it, rather than just a "this happened, then this happened" devoid of revolutionary theory. the book changed my life. Ill second 10 days that shook the world too, but will never recomend anything by trotsky unless you're looking for information on where everything went so wrong with the left in imperialist countries (sorry guyovich) E.H. Carrs "The Bolshevik Revoluion" has a nice summing up in the first chapters of volume 1 too G.C. Furr III fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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VirtualStranger posted:You should all watch this, especially the first 40 minutes. Richard Wolff is great. Best one all year.
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G.C. Furr III posted:E.H. Carrs "The Bolshevik Revoluion" has a nice summing up in the first chapters of volume 1 too hard to get hold of E.H Carr's work these days. I found a battered copy at liverpool library and half the volumes are missing.
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Revolution off to a great start everyone https://www.liberationnews.org/albuquerque-high-students-vote-landslide-win-for-socialist-candidate/
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G.C. Furr III posted:Yes, the Marxist-Leninist source is "History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (bolshevik)" - https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1939/x01/index.htm i think trotsky's history is useful on that front, actually. like how the secret speech is worth reading as a crash course in ideological warfare. though i should have specified while recommending terminals posted:Revolution off to a great start everyone gently caress off dude
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Homework Explainer posted:gently caress off dude I think he was being serious. The youth are ripe for radicalization.
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Fiction posted:I think he was being serious. The youth are ripe for radicalization. i wondered if he meant it that way. if so my apologies
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really gotta thank hillary for not conceding election night, she helped destroy her power base with that
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Condiv posted:really gotta thank hillary for not conceding election night, she helped destroy her power base with that That's what happens when you don't have a concession speech prepared.
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cannot repeat enough: hillary clinton, knowing she'd lost to donald trump and her supporters were tear-streaked and fearing for their futures, chose a literal lobbyist to tell them to go home
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Condiv posted:really gotta thank hillary for not conceding election night, she helped destroy her power base with that Tbh that made me angrier than nearly anything else she's done in this campaign. The one actual reason - other than ambition - for her running in this race was to shatter the glass ceiling on behalf of America's women and girls. And then she doesn't show up to give a concession speech, to offer them any comfort after such a stunning defeat. Instead, she sends out Pedestal, and then the next day she holds a concession speech -- not in front of staff or supporters but in front of donors. What enormous cowardice.
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Tbh that made me angrier than nearly anything else she's done in this campaign. The one actual reason - other than ambition - for her running in this race was to shatter the glass ceiling on behalf of America's women and girls. And then she doesn't show up to give a concession speech, to offer them any comfort after such a stunning defeat. Instead, she sends out Pedestal, and then the next day she holds a concession speech -- not in front of staff or supporters but in front of donors. What enormous cowardice. Yeah. Rest in piss, basically.
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Tbh that made me angrier than nearly anything else she's done in this campaign. The one actual reason - other than ambition - for her running in this race was to shatter the glass ceiling on behalf of America's women and girls. And then she doesn't show up to give a concession speech, to offer them any comfort after such a stunning defeat. Instead, she sends out Pedestal, and then the next day she holds a concession speech -- not in front of staff or supporters but in front of donors. What enormous cowardice. ohh yeah, and she was like 2 hours late
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Tbh that made me angrier than nearly anything else she's done in this campaign. The one actual reason - other than ambition - for her running in this race was to shatter the glass ceiling on behalf of America's women and girls. And then she doesn't show up to give a concession speech, to offer them any comfort after such a stunning defeat. Instead, she sends out Pedestal, and then the next day she holds a concession speech -- not in front of staff or supporters but in front of donors. What enormous cowardice. Were you expecting a corrupt Wall Street mouthpiece to show human compassion or something
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:Tbh that made me angrier than nearly anything else she's done in this campaign. The one actual reason - other than ambition - for her running in this race was to shatter the glass ceiling on behalf of America's women and girls. And then she doesn't show up to give a concession speech, to offer them any comfort after such a stunning defeat. Instead, she sends out Pedestal, and then the next day she holds a concession speech -- not in front of staff or supporters but in front of donors. What enormous cowardice. white feminism falls on it's own sword
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HorseLord posted:white feminism falls on it's own sword ur redtext is pretty good right now
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excellent compilation of resources and information from an extremely good fb page https://www.facebook.com/browearecommunist/posts/1890341244527109
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VirtualStranger posted:You should all watch this, especially the first 40 minutes. Richard Wolff is great. He's right about everything except the idea that we need to create a new party. We need to organize outside of the democratic party, but our vessel for political action should be dried out husk of the DNC. E:By keeping the political wing separate from the ideological wing we can keep the careerists in politics where they will be most effective and where they can't corrupt the movement with their handwringing. The Kingfish fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Nov 11, 2016 |
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Welcome to Hell, everyone. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/politics/newt-gingrich-house-un-american-activities-committee/index.html
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Nov 11, 2016 22:34
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VirtualStranger posted:Welcome to Hell, everyone. Obama didn't take a stand against the surveillance state because he was a coward and because he assumed it would just get passed on to Clinton. He hosed us all just as hard as Bush did.
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Obama was a lovely president, and never let liberals say otherwise.
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Everyone should be kissing Chris Hedges' rear end for preventing Obama from getting even more power to lock up people the state just doesn't like.
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Nah, liberals will memorialize him in history as 'progressive', actually believe the recession is over and that he got us out of it.
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Deimus posted:Nah, liberals will memorialize him in history as 'progressive', actually believe the recession is over and that he got us out of it. Don't give 'em an inch. Obama set a precedent for assassinating American citizens abroad, and now Donald J. Trump has inherited that power. Obama refused to prosecute war crimes and torture, and now Trump is going to bring it all back 10 fold. Obama wouldn't side with Labor in any of its struggles after he promised to be on that picket line, and now there might not even be an NLRB - and the AFL-CIO is bending their knee to Trump. Obama hosed us all hard.
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Deimus posted:Nah, liberals will memorialize him in history as 'progressive', actually believe the recession is over and that he got us out of it. "Thanks, Obama" - Liberals, Unironically.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:AFL-CIO is bending their knee to Trump. RIP Culinary Union, offered up as a sacrifice to satiate President Trump
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Atrocious Joe posted:RIP Culinary Union, offered up as a sacrifice to satiate President Trump Didn't even realize I was posting in this thread and preaching to the choir, but HOLY gently caress they're bending the knee to Donald J. Trump.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Didn't even realize I was posting in this thread and preaching to the choir, but HOLY gently caress they're bending the knee to Donald J. Trump. what exactly are they doin' can i get a link?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Don't give 'em an inch. Obama set a precedent for assassinating American citizens abroad, and now Donald J. Trump has inherited that power. Obama refused to prosecute war crimes and torture, and now Trump is going to bring it all back 10 fold. Obama wouldn't side with Labor in any of its struggles after he promised to be on that picket line, and now there might not even be an NLRB - and the AFL-CIO is bending their knee to Trump. Bernie was alway at the picket line supporting organized labor. Where were the Hillary and Obama?
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Didn't even realize I was posting in this thread and preaching to the choir, but HOLY gently caress they're bending the knee to Donald J. Trump. link?
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resar posted:link? Zikan posted:what exactly are they doin' can i get a link? http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/Other-News/The-Future-of-Veterans-and-Workers-Under-a-Trump-Presidency quote:We are prepared to work with President-elect Trump if he’s serious about following through with his promises to pursue policies that improve the lives of working people and veterans. I may have been a wee bit hasty 
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I almost hope these SF and LA liberals get what they want and have California secede from the union. Because you bet your rear end I'll be in my anti-liberal militia baby.
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Larry Parrish posted:I almost hope these SF and LA liberals get what they want and have California secede from the union. Because you bet your rear end I'll be in my anti-liberal militia baby. California unleashed Reagan on America, and the Clintons followed in his wake. They don't get to leave.
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I can't believe this thread managed to get dumber and more masturbatory post-election. Lots of barely latent accelerationism. I submitted my info to the local PSL chapter to volunteer because I respect their immediate response to the results, fwiw.
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Karl Barks posted:i don't know enough about venezuelian politics, but the vibe i've gotten is that maduro poo poo on chavez legacy this article explains it really well https://newleftreview.org/II/99/julia-buxton-venezuela-after-chavez
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:i just feel like a group that endorsed obama is probably not that socialist, idk. DSA does swear fealty to marx and socialism but they're very married to the western 'anti-authoritarian left' tradition which means periodical naivete about parliamentary reformism, all you need to do is to take a peak at jacobin mag (essentially their propaganda arm) to see what i mean
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I wouldn't even call them 'anti-authoritarian' so much as they're simply reformist, for better or worse, and try to work within parliamentary politics as you said. Although I guess the classification at this point is moot since there's not exactly a thriving workers' council movement in america
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Deimus posted:The Dem Autopsy thread is hilarious in a 'liberals will never learn and it's pathetic and sad' kinda way. let me guess, 'american whites are so intractably racist that no amount of offering free poo poo will win them over', asserted as self-evident fact over and over. i'm not gonna read it for sake of my health btw.
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