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The best part of the ending was how Mac Walters said the galaxy was supposed to be a wasteland post ME3. What a weird thing to do.
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Nov 12, 2016 03:51
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Eej posted:I would go to the doctor to check for a broken fun gland before proceeding Charge is fine but something about Nova just feels totally unsatisfying, even if it is powerful 
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Nov 12, 2016 03:54
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Well the Mass Effect has already proven it can warp time/space. Lets just go with the anime ending and have all universes occur at once, and now Ryder has to step through all four and experience the different fallouts. Seriously though, gently caress color endings.
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Nov 12, 2016 03:57
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Milky Moor posted:The best part of the ending was how Mac Walters said the galaxy was supposed to be a wasteland post ME3. I can't name one person at Bioware whose response to the audience turning on the ending didn't make the situation worse
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Nov 12, 2016 04:03
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Patrick Weekes... sorta helped with some cathartic venting.Ciaphas posted:Charge is fine but something about Nova just feels totally unsatisfying, even if it is powerful Yeah you don't need to worry about Nova you can just stick with using Charge as an invulnerability frame move/shield regen while you shotgun blast the poo poo out of everything.
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Nov 12, 2016 04:36
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But if you don't Nova you aren't hitting the ground with a shockwave like a superhero.
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Nov 12, 2016 05:39
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Eej posted:Patrick Weekes... sorta helped with some cathartic venting. It should target an enemy and punch them with a shockwave radiating out from their body. Now it's even more awesome. Why punch the ground when you can supercavitate some minion's body?
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Nov 12, 2016 05:59
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You just described charge.
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Nov 12, 2016 06:54
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Has anyone made a mod that lets us charge the kid in the dream sequences?
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Nov 12, 2016 09:07
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Jeza posted:the storm over ME3's ending was ridiculous and overblown, and was essentially fine. especially compared to something like say, deus ex: hr. and skyrim is a dull reskin of oblivion full of weird potato face people and horrible gamebryo everything. people who like it a lot have terrible opinions on games, and life.  I've no problem with the Synthesis ending. It seemed like the obvious "canon" ending from a narrative point of view.
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Nov 12, 2016 09:22
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Moola posted:what the heck I avoided spoilers before I started playing but I couldn't help but hear people freaking out about the ending. I definitely expected the ending to coming down to picking a button for the ending scene you wanted, because that's how it works in every videogame which choices. So I figured it was something else wrong, like, you're the reapers the whole time or I don't know, I just figured it must be something truly offensively bad or something. When I got to the end, I was really excited that there wasn't really any choice for my Shephard staying in character, it felt like the logical solution and conclusion to what I'd worked for thus far. I never even save-reloaded to see the other endings, gently caress em, wouldn't make sense or be good anyway. I was genuinely surprised and excited to see that was an option, I hadn't considered it or thought it was on the table, because I was expecting something terrible to match the intensity of the online anger about it. I guess some people wanted more in-depth conclusion to every character or something but I felt like I got a ton of great closure throughout the rest of the game. After I bless the galaxy with a new level of existence, I don't think any of the horrible and mortal problems of the old galaxy matter anymore. It's all bullshit from a lovely time we can all move on from together in peace. The other options seemed like they were for rear end in a top hat Shepards or for selfish ones. I've since read what the amended endings were, and I think that it's cool they added another option to shoot the hologram. I don't know what people expected or wanted to this day and I kind of have to think people just got whipped up and it became just a fair target for people to rage on without any resistance. Khanstant fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Nov 12, 2016 |
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Nov 12, 2016 09:56
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Khanstant posted:I avoided spoilers before I started playing but I couldn't help but hear people freaking out about the ending. I definitely expected the ending to coming down to picking a button for the ending scene you wanted, because that's how it works in every videogame which choices. So I figured it was something else wrong, like, you're the reapers the whole time or I don't know, I just figured it must be something truly offensively bad or something. When I got to the end, I was really excited that there wasn't really any choice for my Shephard staying in character, it felt like the logical solution and conclusion to what I'd worked for thus far. I never even save-reloaded to see the other endings, gently caress em, wouldn't make sense or be good anyway. I was genuinely surprised and excited to see that was an option, I hadn't considered it or thought it was on the table, because I was expecting something terrible to match the intensity of the online anger about it. A new level of existence: putting green circuitry overlay over people.
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Nov 12, 2016 10:10
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Can i still charge into peoples faces in Andromeda? This is important!!!
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Nov 12, 2016 10:57
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Milky Moor posted:A new level of existence: putting green circuitry overlay over people. Look if we're going to pick apart dumb looking poo poo in Mass Effect we don't have to start at the end.
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Nov 12, 2016 11:01
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moist turtleneck posted:Ending was bad, even after they "fixed" it There really was no way to "fix" something as pretentious as that ending. If the story had a strong foundation, maybe, but it was shoddy from the offset since they just weren't prepared to end the series at the time thanks to poor planning.
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Nov 12, 2016 11:22
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Actually, it turns out Mass Effect 3 was just fine.
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Nov 12, 2016 11:56
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I still prefer the ending the original writer was going for: The reapers are the good guys, you're the bad guys, organised organic civilisations utilising mass effect fields are hastening the entropic death of the universe by an appreciable amount (by machine standards). This is why the Reapers rebelled against their space-cuttlefish overlords and systematically cull the galaxy every now and then, as they respect a species right to have it's time in the sun and also be indexed, but also don't want their unlimited lifetimes cut down anymore than they have to be. Which is why they make new reapers out of the species they destroy, so the species they exterminate can continue to live on forever in some form, and not be forgotten. TLDR; you a bad dude, space robots good, no two ways about it. Get over it nerds.
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Nov 12, 2016 12:00
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I didn't hate the ending at first, then I reloaded to check out the other options.
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Nov 12, 2016 12:03
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monster on a stick posted:Has anyone made a mod that lets us charge the kid in the dream sequences? I make a point of running away from him in the dream sequences. Eventually the game gives up and advances the cutscene.
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Nov 12, 2016 12:10
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Lt. Danger posted:Actually, it turns out Mass Effect 3 was just fine. thank you for clearing this up noted bad opinion haver Lt.Danger
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Nov 12, 2016 12:45
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Lt. Danger posted:Actually, it turns out Mass Effect 3 was just fine. This is only true for the multiplayer, which was 
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Nov 12, 2016 12:53
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9-Volt Assault posted:Can i still charge into peoples faces in Andromeda? This is important!!! Yes. Maybe it will also be possible to go invisible, pop a tech shield, and then charge into someone too!
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Nov 12, 2016 13:30
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McGiggins posted:I still prefer the ending the original writer was going for: The reapers are the good guys, you're the bad guys, organised organic civilisations utilising mass effect fields are hastening the entropic death of the universe by an appreciable amount (by machine standards). This is why the Reapers rebelled against their space-cuttlefish overlords and systematically cull the galaxy every now and then, as they respect a species right to have it's time in the sun and also be indexed, but also don't want their unlimited lifetimes cut down anymore than they have to be. Which is why they make new reapers out of the species they destroy, so the species they exterminate can continue to live on forever in some form, and not be forgotten. That wasn't great, but at least it was foreshadowed and made use of the setting's elements. Unlike the gibberish and magic we got. Anyway, let's get off the whole THE ENDS ARE BAD argument and get back to wildly speculating about this game.
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Nov 12, 2016 15:03
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9-Volt Assault posted:Can i still charge into peoples faces in Andromeda? This is important!!! I hope they buff Tech Shield back to ME2 power levels. You were straight up goddamn invulnerable with max level Tech Shield in that, I was so sad they nerfed it into 'only mostly invulnerable' in ME3.
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Nov 12, 2016 17:41
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McGiggins posted:I still prefer the ending the original writer was going for: The reapers are the good guys, you're the bad guys, organised organic civilisations utilising mass effect fields are hastening the entropic death of the universe by an appreciable amount (by machine standards). This is why the Reapers rebelled against their space-cuttlefish overlords and systematically cull the galaxy every now and then, as they respect a species right to have it's time in the sun and also be indexed, but also don't want their unlimited lifetimes cut down anymore than they have to be. Which is why they make new reapers out of the species they destroy, so the species they exterminate can continue to live on forever in some form, and not be forgotten. Also would explain why the series was called "Mass Effect" in the first place. This great phenomenon responsible for almost all space-faring progress is also destroying it. Reaper intentions more justified. Hammy, sure, but I like it.
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Nov 12, 2016 17:43
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McGiggins posted:I still prefer the ending the original writer was going for: The reapers are the good guys, you're the bad guys, organised organic civilisations utilising mass effect fields are hastening the entropic death of the universe by an appreciable amount (by machine standards). This is why the Reapers rebelled against their space-cuttlefish overlords and systematically cull the galaxy every now and then, as they respect a species right to have it's time in the sun and also be indexed, but also don't want their unlimited lifetimes cut down anymore than they have to be. Which is why they make new reapers out of the species they destroy, so the species they exterminate can continue to live on forever in some form, and not be forgotten. That ending in no way says the Reapers are good guys.
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Nov 12, 2016 17:53
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Steve2911 posted:That ending in no way says the Reapers are good guys. Perhaps not, they still turn people into techno zombies, but they have rationalized it as the best course of action using robot logic. They think they are the good guys, but mass genocide is never justifiable.
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Nov 12, 2016 18:00
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Arcsquad12 posted:Perhaps not, they still turn people into techno zombies, but they have rationalized it as the best course of action using robot logic. They think they are the good guys, but mass genocide is never justifiable. I'd say the mark of any good villain is that they have motivations that they feel justify their actions. I think the Reapers as they exist have this too though.
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Nov 12, 2016 18:03
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Steve2911 posted:I'd say the mark of any good villain is that they have motivations that they feel justify their actions. I think the Reapers as they exist have this too though. Not really because their entire ideology is thwarted by the existence of a man with robot parts, which is completely outside of their expectations. Kurieg fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Nov 12, 2016 |
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Nov 12, 2016 18:07
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Steve2911 posted:That ending in no way says the Reapers are good guys. To salmonella we're unfathomable monsters responsible for genocides the likes of which we can hardly imagine. For us, we're just trying not to get the runs.
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Nov 12, 2016 18:12
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Steve2911 posted:I'd say the mark of any good villain is that they have motivations that they feel justify their actions. I think the Reapers as they exist have this too though. What they have now is the flawed logic of a defective computer program that has them ordered to "preserve life" in the most needlessly sadistic and destructive manner possible. It also has their supposed monuments to said species in forms that encourage their enemies to destroy as many as possible for numerous reasons, meaning millions of years worth of harvests are undone in one large battle.
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Nov 12, 2016 18:36
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can we talk about Andromeda instead? 
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Nov 12, 2016 18:40
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Moola posted:can we talk about Andromeda instead? Sure. I really enjoyed that briefing trailer and am really keen on the series having a chance to start from scratch. A lot of what made ME1 so good was the sense of getting to know the world and the space around you, and if Andromeda can bring that feeling back with mechanics and aesthetics that aren't bland, then 
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Nov 12, 2016 18:47
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Not a whole lot to talk about until we get some deets on that beta
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Nov 12, 2016 18:48
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I think the asses shown in the trailers have been really top notch. Bioware is definitely stepping up it's butt game. Any word on if the engine supports jiggle physics?
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Nov 12, 2016 18:50
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Hank Morgan posted:I make a point of running away from him in the dream sequences. Eventually the game gives up and advances the cutscene. Tirranek posted:Sure. I really enjoyed that briefing trailer and am really keen on the series having a chance to start from scratch. A lot of what made ME1 so good was the sense of getting to know the world and the space around you, and if Andromeda can bring that feeling back with mechanics and aesthetics that aren't bland, then
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Nov 12, 2016 18:53
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SubponticatePoster posted:Well I know what I'm doing my next playthrough! You could just run over them? 
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Nov 12, 2016 18:55
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I'm playing Inquisition for the first time, it's ok I guess if Andromeda is basically this but with mass effect stuff then I think it will be pretty cool
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Moola posted:I'm playing Inquisition for the first time, it's ok I guess Oh God please no. Inquisition is fine if you completely ignore everything except the main quests. Otherwise it's a single player MMO with a whole bunch of stupid filler thrown in.
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