Ajon posted:

Guavanaut posted:

Sure, RC opioids are dumb, and things like carfentanil are terrifying in concept even at known dosages and have started working their way into the street drug supply in places, but I'm fairly sure that open access to academic knowledge isn't the root cause of that like the clickbait headline wants to imply, and more open access to academic knowledge is an important thing to push for in and of itself.

It seems like the very reason that they've come a part of the street drug network rather than something that only zoo veterinarians knew about and handled with trepidation is precisely due to the DEA cracking down on everything else as hard as possible, rather than considering other tactics like OTC naloxone, heroin maintenance clinics, clean rooms, lighter restrictions on the safer opiates, or tackling the social alienation that leads to addiction in the first place. It's certainly not the fault of chemistry papers that have been around since the 70s.

I notice in Canada at least they're back to blaming China again this time around.

Hot Karl Marx posted:

You call trump a fascist but you want to overturn a democratic election? Do you not see the irony at all?


And those protesters if they were smart would be protesting the DNC for basically pushing the worst candidate possible with a lovely centrist platform because it was 'her turn' not the loving election. Protesting trumps victory is going to win you 0 sympathy from anyone who isn't already in your little circle.

And I can't organize poo poo cause I'm 900km from home in the middle of no where, not American, and I literally work in natural gas pipeline with a ~*unionized*~ job so maybe I know a little bit about left wing labour and supporting hillary was not a good choice. But no, keep protesting trump, instead of maybe the electoral college or maybe the primary process that hosed over Bernie, or how the media was in the bag for Clinton and how that backfired. Don't take a good hard look at the democratic party and just keep on doubling down on the nonesense that got you guys in the position in the first place. I'm just gonna eat a probie cause I don't have time to post a picture as well.

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Lead out in cuffs posted:

I mean, your point stands -- fewer people voted for Trump than for Romney or McCain, and Democratic turnout was super-low comparatively, but holy non-zeroed y-axis Batman!

E: Also how many of those missing votes are accounted for by Johnson? Hmmm? If that chart was zeroed and showed the other candidates, we'd know.

Fansy posted:

Imagine that, a guy working for fossil fuels wants the left to stop organizing.

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Maybe try and talk to me like a fellow person instead of some boogeyman in your head.

Fansy posted:

You're defending Trump's election as democratic.

Lead out in cuffs posted:

, but holy non-zeroed y-axis Batman!

Hot Karl Marx posted:

Bush vs Gore. You have no ground to stand on. You and your 'side' lost the election cause you couldn't appeal to enough people. You're just going to alienate the very people whose support you need. The only people who are going to see these 'protests' as a good thing are people already on your side. The same people who just lost the election. If you want to move forward maybe try and get people who don't agree with you to understand what you and your party are trying to do instead of just calling them bad and evil. That's why the USA is so polarize cause everyone hates each others side.

And you also ignored the other points I made.

Lead out in cuffs posted:

I mean, your point stands -- fewer people voted for Trump than for Romney or McCain, and Democratic turnout was super-low comparatively, but holy non-zeroed y-axis Batman!

E: Also how many of those missing votes are accounted for by Johnson? Hmmm? If that chart was zeroed and showed the other candidates, we'd know.

MizPiz posted:

I've never heard anyone try to delegitimize a graph for not starting at zero; my understanding was that it's better not to do it when you want to show differences between data.

Met posted:

Those forgotten Americans. Hateful white people. Won't anyone show them a little compassion and stop unfriending them on facebook because they do innocent things like working against the interests of minorities and women and throw minor tantrums on the internet?

Thank god we have a president-elect who speaks for the truly persecuted of this country.

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Lime Tonics posted:

Also, the largest employer in america, the us government, pays its workers an average of $58,726 a year after taxes.

goose willis posted:

The Pain posted:

Not much humorous to say about this one. I dashed it off just in time to make the first deadline after the election. No way around it, that election was a downer. It's become harder to blame the blackening political skies exclusively on the dumb criminal arrogance of the Bush administration; the time may have come to reluctnatly concede that most Americans are just so stupid they'll reliably vote for whoever spends more money on TV propaganda. That said, though, I have to admit the Democrats deserved to lose. Although my own Senators (Sarbanes and Miukulski) are pretty progressive and were both vocal opponents of the invasiaon of Iraq, the Democratic Party hasn't really stood for anything at all in decades, not since America's labor force was shopped out to Mexico and Reagan/Bush made it okay to hate coloreds again. Their craven support of Bush's Iraq resolution was their official announcement of death. The best thing they can do now is for their last withered remnants to die off quickly and make way for some new party that does stand for something. In the meantime I think we can safely count on the Republicans to behave so vilely--giving themselves and their corporations a few hundred billion dollars in tax breaks at our expense and sending a couple thousand expendable working-class kids to get killed in the Gulf for oil profits--that finally even the American people might notice. Or maybe it'll take al Qaeda mustard-gassing the loving Superbowl before anyone in the national press corps politely raises a hand and asks hey whatever happened to that Osama guy anyway.

Sorry, everyone. Some weeks it's harder than others to find the funny side of things. - 11/20/02

Lime Tonics posted:

Also, the largest employer in america, the us government, pays its workers an average of $58,726 a year after taxes.

exmarx posted:

elbkaida posted:

People misguidedly protesting a democratically elected president (Korea)

420 Gank Mid posted: