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AlphaKretin posted:Speaking of the "National" Dex, are Unova/Kalos/Alola actually different countries or is PokéJapan really culturally diverse and big? Kanto and Jhoto are the actual Kanto region in Japan (Tokyo is Saffron City) Hoenn is the Kyushu region (most southern Japanese island) Sinnoh is Hokkaido (most northern Japanese island) Unova is New York and New Jersey Kalos is France Alola is Hawaii Pokemon Ranger and any other side game that's part of the main universe also used smaller areas of the Japanese map. The real world political lines exist, just Pokefied. Plus the game is played through the eyes of an 11 year old kid.
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extra row of teeth posted:Great, the three turds are back. I was so loving sick of seeing this thing's dopily designed face(s) in every OU team and was thrilled when Excadrill became OU's top mole. Well they are coming back with slick hair at least.
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Nov 12, 2016 16:10
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Dr. Fetus posted:Rotation is also gone.  My Trick Room/Wish Aromatisse is crying
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Nov 12, 2016 16:21
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Txn posted:Gamefreak why? It was my favorite battle format You'll understand when you see the single digit frame rates in doubles. At least they prioritized the music.
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Nov 12, 2016 16:26
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Dehry posted:Kanto and Jhoto are the actual Kanto region in Japan (Tokyo is Saffron City) Orre is based on Arizona.
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Nov 12, 2016 16:40
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I'm going to assume that the reason they got rid of rotation and triples is because the game can't really handle that many Pokemon on screen at once. I don't remember if it was said or not but I'm assuming that means horde battles are gone too. Assuming that's the case it would have been nice for them to fix the problem rather than completely removing the game modes, but not a lot we can do about it at this point. Personally I would have rather they didn't try to push as many polygons if the system or engine couldn't really handle it.
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Nov 12, 2016 16:49
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PSWII60 posted:Personally I would have rather they didn't try to push as many polygons if the system or engine couldn't really handle it. It's 100% an engine problem, Gamefreak have no clue what they're doing with 3D and it shows in a lot of places. The game itself is optimized like trash and while trying to cut out the middle-man and not have a third party help them build the tools and framework for their 3DS mainline titles was admirable, it was a complete failure, and they need a studio who knows how to work with 3D assets on limited hardware to come in and clean up their mess.
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PSWII60 posted:I'm going to assume that the reason they got rid of rotation and triples is because the game can't really handle that many Pokemon on screen at once. I don't remember if it was said or not but I'm assuming that means horde battles are gone too. Assuming that's the case it would have been nice for them to fix the problem rather than completely removing the game modes, but not a lot we can do about it at this point. Personally I would have rather they didn't try to push as many polygons if the system or engine couldn't really handle it. 
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Nov 12, 2016 17:08
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Has anyone ever looked down at their handheld Pokemon game and thought "drat I sure would love to see this beautiful piece of hardware chug and stress along on a loving turn based RPG" What did they do that makes SM even more of a lagfest than XY was? And what made them think it was a good idea? I mean these games are for every one 3DS system right, so why make a game that plays like poo poo on half of the 3DS options? edit: I hear ya vvv
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Nov 12, 2016 17:10
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A big part of the problem is the Pokemon models are absurdly high poly. They made them that way as futureproofing so as not to need to make a thousand models every time they want to do something new. Problem is they overdid it and now with the more detailed battle scenes in Sun and Moon and the trainer models also being in battle...
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HoneyBoy posted:I mean these games are for every one 3DS system right, so why make a game that plays like poo poo on half of the 3DS options? it performs almost the same on an N3DS
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Nov 12, 2016 17:13
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HoneyBoy posted:Has anyone ever looked down at their handheld Pokemon game and thought "drat I sure would love to see this beautiful piece of hardware chug and stress along on a loving turn based RPG" Because Gamefreak is poo poo at optimization?
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Nov 12, 2016 17:15
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On the other hand, fps really shouldn't matter in a turn based handheld rpg. At least going by the demo (on a regular 3ds xl) while the slowdown was sometimes noticeable it had no effect on gameplay.
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Nov 12, 2016 17:21
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less laughter posted:it performs almost the same on an N3DS I'd been reading posts here that there was a notable difference between the different 3DS iterations I guess this is even worse news haha
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HoneyBoy posted:I'd been reading posts here that there was a notable difference between the different 3DS iterations There's a notable difference if you actually think "oh, it didn't lag as bad here!" excuses the fact that it's still going to chug whenever there are 5 or more models on the screen. There are minimum 4 for every battle, since trainer, trainer, pokemon, pokemon. For most people if it chugs, it chugs and the degree to which it sometimes doesn't chug is fairly meaningless.
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Nov 12, 2016 18:05
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So the clothes you can buy are really expensive, like they are in XY, yes? So it behooves us all to make sure we get as many of the items from the demo, right? Need that sweet sweet  for cool clothes, ASAP.
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Nov 12, 2016 18:16
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Reinanigans posted:So the clothes you can buy are really expensive, like they are in XY, yes? So it behooves us all to make sure we get as many of the items from the demo, right? Need that sweet sweet The cheaper clothing options are about $3,000-$6,000 pokebucks. The most expensive I've seen was a leather backpack for $300,000. In other words, yes. On a related note, every hair dresser I've found has had the same boring options for hair color and yet people in my festival plaza keep showing up with purple hair and white hair and it's driving me insane. They're otherwise wearing clothes that I've seen for sale or are right in line with what I've seen for sale, so it stands to reason everything they're sporting should be available. If I get to the last island (yes, I'm playing slowly) and there's no crazy hair color options I'm going to be quite upset. By the way, "Iconic Tee" is the best shirt in the game. I won't ruin it for you guys. Just remember that and go find it.
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Nov 12, 2016 18:24
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Supremezero posted:Because Gamefreak is poo poo at optimization? considering they had to get satoru iwata himself to fit kanto into gold and silver, this is probably right
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Nov 12, 2016 18:24
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Dehry posted:Kanto and Jhoto are the actual Kanto region in Japan (Tokyo is Saffron City) Don't forget about India and the United States of America as actual canon places
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Nov 12, 2016 18:33
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Sockser posted:Don't forget about India and the United States of America as actual canon places South America too, right?
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cheetah7071 posted:South America too, right? specifically Guyana
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cheetah7071 posted:South America too, right? Russia is also specifically mentioned!
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Dehry posted:Kanto and Jhoto are the actual Kanto region in Japan (Tokyo is Saffron City) I feel like the series has been going a weird direction with its real-world influences. Up through B/W they mostly just drew inspiration from real places; Kalos had the main city which was clearly supposed to be Paris, but now the entire Alola region is literally Hawaii. It feels like they really overdid it with trying to insert the culture to where it feels like a cheesy edutainment game where every character has some sort of stereotypical speech pattern or accent and drops in a ton of unnecessary Hawaiian words like kahuna and totem. The closest thing B/W had to anything like that one gym leader who wore a cowboy hat
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Nov 12, 2016 18:49
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Sockser posted:Don't forget about India and the United States of America as actual canon places They kind of acknowledged that in the PWT by saying "Wait is Lt. Surge from Unova?"
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checksin posted:considering they had to get satoru iwata himself to fit kanto into gold and silver, this is probably right Not just that - they couldn't even have localized Red/Green if Iwata hadn't stepped in and mapped out how to do it.
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Looks like Mimikyu's ability cannot be re-used by switching it out and back in. Only works once per battle. Self-inflicted damage from Curse does not pop Disguise, but hurting yourself from confusion does, which is weird and sort of frustrating.
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Nov 12, 2016 19:07
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Funkmaster General posted:Looks like Mimikyu's ability cannot be re-used by switching it out and back in. Only works once per battle. i don't care. i still love it very much
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Funkmaster General posted:
I'm gonna go ahead and guess Ash's plain black t-shirt from the Kanto/Johto This whole programming talk is why I want the next games to be on the Switch so much. The game looks pretty, just up the resolution to 720, use slightly nicer textures and it should be running at a very solid framerate, possibly even with triple and rotation battles coming back. I just look at the citrus 1080p no lines hack (that is edited in post to not run like poo poo since it's an emulator) and I think the look is perfect. The overworld is a bit too korean mmo-ish, but everything else looks stellar, and if the 3DS can "handle" it then the Switch, assuming it's at least Wii U levels of power, should easily handle it.
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What the gently caress is there a trick to the Friend Safari/catching Metangs? Used dozens of loving balls and never caught one of those fuckers
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So if a Pokemon has an Alolan form, having them breed in Alola, even if they aren't Alolan themselves, will always result in the baby being Alolan.  Really, Gamefreak?Calaveron posted:What the gently caress is there a trick to the Friend Safari/catching Metangs? Used dozens of loving balls and never caught one of those fuckers They have the same catch rate as most legendaries, 3. Basically you need a lot of luck.
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Funkmaster General posted:By the way, "Iconic Tee" is the best shirt in the game. I won't ruin it for you guys. Just remember that and go find it. Seconding this, though I don't use it because I play as a girl like Game Freak intended. I also wish I could figure out how to get anime hair colours too. Doesn't seem to be in the same way that X+Y did, via your style rating.
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Dr. Fetus posted:So if a Pokemon has an Alolan form, having them breed in Alola, even if they aren't Alolan themselves, will always result in the baby being Alolan. Good thing there's like....7 of those pokemon so you really don't have to worry too much.
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There's a sign in game saying that it's only a chance though.
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Nov 12, 2016 20:30
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Josuke Higashikata posted:There's a sign in game saying that it's only a chance though. A chance? Great, another RNG variable to throw in for competitive breeding.  (I know gen 6 has it WAY easier than previously to get an ideal Pokémon, but it's still a pain in the rear end especially if you want one of a specific gender for fun)
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Dr. Fetus posted:They have the same catch rate as most legendaries, 3. Basically you need a lot of luck. In DPPt you have a chance to get Beldum as a Pokemon outbreak, but: - Beldum only knows Take Down, so you have to use a Ghost or it'll knock itself out. - The area it'll appear in has a constant Sandstorm. Combined with that low catch-rate it almost offers the best opportunity for your Master Ball!
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I just burnt through all the money I had picking random hair combos and colours to see if "times used" is the trigger for the pigtails and anime hair and it doesn't seem to be the case because I must have reached 20 times or so overall before I reset it.
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Nov 12, 2016 20:38
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Tell me what the iconic tee is put it behind spoiler tags
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I just burnt through all the money I had picking random hair combos and colours to see if "times used" is the trigger for the pigtails and anime hair and it doesn't seem to be the case because I must have reached 20 times or so overall before I reset it. You know what? This is the best thing of the game leaking. By Thursday afternoon there probably will be some spreadsheet detailing all the hairs and how to get them, so no wasting money doing guesswork of what style will look okay. Still sucks that no pompadour.
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Avalerion posted:Which of the pokemon that got alolan forms has competitive use? Regular Dugtrio. It's probably gonna see more use with the buff to 100 ATK, and it has Arena Trap, which is far better than a reskinned Gooey.
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