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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Venom Snake posted:

You are loving mental if you think rich land grabbing religious whacko's like the Bundies and Malheurs are people with legit concerns. These peoples encourage the murder of wild life preservation workers ffs. They destroyed native American artifacts.

Also they are basically the same as tax evading whacko birds.

In their case they didn't want to pay the BLM fees, which are 90% less what a private landowner would have charged them for grazing rights.

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Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Fidel Castronaut posted:

I'm glad the Hillary team is blaming everybody else. It just calcifies their irrelevance and makes it abundantly clear that we cannot afford them and their inability to see outside the circlejerk.

The majority of the people who are doing that are Brooklyn yuppies who cannot understand why nobody outside of NY cares about them

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Coheed and Camembert posted:

There's been a weird energy the last couple days on social media where liberals are loving pissed and fired up. It could be promising.

I hope they get off social media and loving do something about it

If I can I may crash a local student democrats group Monday and try to rile them up

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.
Yeah, I'm all for giving liberals poo poo for not listening to the working class but the Bundys are exactly what we need to prevent and I'd wager most of the people who didn't vote for Hillary also think the Bundys are batshit.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Nonsense posted:

Bill Maher is a bigoted piece of poo poo and I hope somebody slugs him on his show

that there are dems who just have to see what he has to say on a weekly basis legitimately freaks me out

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
The people like Bundy want all government land to be privately owned so it can be exploited. They "protest" by destroying nature trails, hunting endangered animals, making parks unsafe for visitors. I cannot think of a bigger enemy of the people than these fuckwads who believe government preserving nature is communism.

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.
I was going to say that he can't have that great of a viewership because he's on premium cable and not most people have HBO for Game of Thrones and Westworld and Veep but apparently he gets 4 million viewers each week. More than 1% of human beings you meet are avid Maher viewers and pay for the pleasure.

Zythrst
May 31, 2011

Time to join a revolution son, its going to be yooge!

Fidel Castronaut posted:

I was going to say that he can't have that great of a viewership because he's on premium cable and not most people have HBO for Game of Thrones and Westworld and Veep but apparently he gets 4 million viewers each week. More than 1% of human beings you meet are avid Maher viewers and pay for the pleasure.

The last time I watched him was the Killer Mike episode. Maher is the worst.

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

just had an idea: new tier of super super delegates that are used to prevent the party elite from choosing the wrong candidate over the unwashed masses

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Clinton's vision for America's future: A pay raise at your 39 hour a week job. It will be enough to cover the rising cost of your Obamacare package, but not much more so you're still gonna have to be an Uber driver at night to make ends meet

Trump's vision for America's future: Good jobs for you and gently caress everyone else

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

Zythrst posted:

The last time I watched him was the Killer Mike episode. Maher is the worst.

I watched his interview with Obama and I was embarrassed on Maher's behalf. There were some good moments here and there but lol at taking Obama to task on GMOs and Obama coming back with "science says these don't ruin things like you say they do."

It's weird because I used to watch him religiously in the early 2000s because it was verboten to speak ill of Bush and the War on Terror and he did both so there's a part of me that wants to cut him some slack for keeping me sane back then but he has only become peak smug liberal, which is the last thing anybody needs right now.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Karl Barks posted:

just had an idea: new tier of super super delegates that are used to prevent the party elite from choosing the wrong candidate over the unwashed masses

can we call it super delegate 2

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Jon Oliver good

Samantha Bee good

Noah bad,

Maher bad

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

There should be a law saying cattle illegally left unattended on public land will be declared abandoned and free for anyone to take. Free market, if you don't pay to use the land you don't get any legal protection.

bump_fn posted:

Trump is worse than Hillary on many many issues but on a macro level there is a silver lining of the Democratic Party waking the gently caress up

This is part of why I wasn't hyped for either outcome of the election. If Hillary won, the party would have continued sliding to the right while still claiming to represent the marginalized people their rich backers are screwing over.

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Phi230 posted:

Jon Oliver good

Samantha Bee good

Noah bad,

Maher bad

they're all bad since they do nothing but point out horrible poo poo and then smooth it over with a cheep laugh for ratings

theres a will theres moe
Jan 10, 2007


Hair Elf
I like maher but I think all religion is society-ruining anti-rational brainwashing

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Guy Goodbody posted:

Clinton's vision for America's future: *mumble mumble* "WELL MY OPPONENT" *rhetorical dodge* *mealy-mouthed arcane platform poo poo no one understands* *forced meme/slogan for the msm* "Check out Hillary Clinton.com and also donald's wacky twitter feed lol"

fixed

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

super sweet best pal posted:

There should be a law saying cattle illegally left unattended on public land will be declared abandoned and free for anyone to take. Free market, if you don't pay to use the land you don't get any legal protection.

Did you even see pics of the Bundy cattle?

Very mangy and skeletal, he wasn't taking good care of them.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Phi230 posted:

Jon Oliver good

Samantha Bee good

Noah bad,

Maher bad

How big of meltdown do you think he is going to have tomorrow.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Gringostar posted:

they're all bad since they do nothing but point out horrible poo poo and then smooth it over with a cheep laugh for ratings

i agree

close dnd

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

theres a will theres moe posted:

I like maher but I think all religion is society-ruining anti-rational brainwashing

alt-right is full of atheists so lol at the idea that religion is what is making society irrational. i would take a jesuit priest over a fedora'd atheist every day of every week.

theres a will theres moe
Jan 10, 2007


Hair Elf

Fidel Castronaut posted:

alt-right is full of atheists so lol at the idea that religion is what is making society irrational. i would take a jesuit priest over a fedora'd atheist every day of every week.

It's definitely not all religion's fault

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
what's that laibach line? "in the absence of god we'll pray to police."

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Fidel Castronaut posted:

alt-right is full of atheists so lol at the idea that religion is what is making society irrational. i would take a jesuit priest over a fedora'd atheist every day of every week.

i can literally think of one jesuit in particular that would have been better than either trump or hillary

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

Fidel Castronaut posted:

alt-right is full of atheists so lol at the idea that religion is what is making society irrational. i would take a jesuit priest over a fedora'd atheist every day of every week.

it's complicated, basically.

I stopped going to church years ago because lol southern baptists but the part of me that causes me to gravitate toward progressive causes was very much molded by going as a child because that was when they just kind of kept it to a simple "jesus was good and you should be compassionate like him" message and it thankfully stuck for the long-term.

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

Lawman 0 posted:

How big of meltdown do you think he is going to have tomorrow.

hes going to limit blame to bigots and 3rd parties and these glorious few days of liberals reflecting on their party and platform will end and we'll be back to hearing how the real tragedy of this election was tpp failing or whatever the adhd symptom-of-a-failed-system of the week is without any focus or discussion about causes

The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015

Oh Snapple! posted:

can we call it super delegate 2

son of super delegate

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

Oh Snapple! posted:

can we call it super delegate 2

super delegate 2, shill harder

The_Politics_Man
Aug 25, 2015

Oh Snapple! posted:

it's complicated, basically.

I stopped going to church years ago because lol southern baptists but the part of me that causes me to gravitate toward progressive causes was very much molded by going as a child because that was when they just kind of kept it to a simple "jesus was good and you should be compassionate like him" message and it thankfully stuck for the long-term.

bring back social gospel

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Lawman 0 posted:

How big of meltdown do you think he is going to have tomorrow.

well,

if he doesn't ride the progressive wave and demand GOP and DNCe bloodshed and if he denounces the protests then he will be added to the bad pile


if he stokes the left fire then gooder

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Phobophilia posted:

i think it was mostly fine for bernie, only people who are deep into being pieces of poo poo would psyche themselves up with those photoshops of bernie bowing in the back of an interracial porn shoot

lol

yea that just goes to show that it was just an echo chamber for a bunch of fat bored alt-right males circlejerking over it while the rurals are outside trying to survive. It wouldn't have mattered because bernie would've said

you rurals, the poors are losing jobs and I will bring it back but make the wealthy pay for your fair share, I think that was already a staggeringly clear message.

It could not have been any more freaking crystal clear

it was like the next logical step after Obama, but Clinton just had to wedge herself in because she powerhungry and #ItsHerTurn

Lastgirl has issued a correction as of 22:24 on Nov 12, 2016

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Guy Goodbody posted:

Clinton's vision for America's future: A pay raise at your 39 hour a week job. It will be enough to cover the rising cost of your Obamacare package, but not much more so you're still gonna have to be an Uber driver at night to make ends meet

Trump's vision for America's future: Good jobs for you and gently caress everyone else
i'm going to laugh my rear end off if trump is able to get his trillion dollar infrastructure jobs project through w/ significant public funding while all the dnc sycophants and hillfolk shriek at it

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

comedyblissoption posted:

i'm going to laugh my rear end off if trump is able to get his trillion dollar infrastructure jobs project through w/ significant public funding while all the dnc sycophants and hillfolk shriek at it

but those people arent the republican congress and senate

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound

comedyblissoption posted:

i'm going to laugh my rear end off if trump is able to get his trillion dollar infrastructure jobs project through w/ significant public funding while all the dnc sycophants and hillfolk shriek at it

it will go through but he will just make all those new roads be toll roads that are paid for by robbing entitlement programs and built and overseen by a trump company

Jaminjami
Jan 26, 2015

💪💪💪

theres a will theres moe
Jan 10, 2007


Hair Elf

Gringostar posted:

it will go through but he will just make all those new roads be toll roads that are paid for by robbing entitlement programs and built and overseen by a trump company

A trump company that brings in Indians and Nepalis to do the work for 15% of the rate in the contract proposal.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Gringostar posted:

it will go through but he will just make all those new roads be toll roads that are paid for by robbing entitlement programs and built and overseen by a trump company

His website mention public-private partnership aka poo poo like toll roads instead of no strings attached federal funding for infrastructure projects.

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
The keeper of the city keys
Puts shutters on the dreams.
I wait outside the pilgrim's door
With insufficient schemes.
The black queen chants the funeral march,
The cracked brass bells will ring;
To summon back the fire witch
To the court of the cheeto king.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

theres a will theres moe posted:

It's definitely not all religion's fault

poo poo heads hide behind any idea structure. Piety I'd just a classic.

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Deimus
Aug 17, 2012

Pomp posted:

The keeper of the city keys
Puts shutters on the dreams.
I wait outside the pilgrim's door
With insufficient schemes.
The black queen chants the funeral march,
The cracked brass bells will ring;
To summon back the fire witch
To the court of the cheeto king.

Hello, fellow King Crimson listener.

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