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Onmi posted:Tangentially related, one of the few reasons I'm glad that Renew Your Vows is its own universe is, barring another Secret Wars or Spider-Verse, Marvels endless crossover events will not touch it. The story wont be interrupted 7 issues in because Schlong Johnson has begun to turn everyone in the world into Pasties and Spidey needs to show up for the event even though he wont really do anything. This is exactly why I'm not getting Ultimates 2 when it comes out. I played catchup on Ultimates after everyone was talking about it. But since I'm not reading Civil War 2, it makes it feel like you're reading every other issue of Ultimates. A lot happened outside Ultimates that is very important to Ultimates. And at the same time, Ultimates felt like they never finished any of their story arches. As good as it may be, there's no point in me going forward if I'm not going to bother with tie-ins.
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X-O posted:I know there's 49 more of these, but there won't be another one more perfect than this one. So any other Avengers who are tied to specific states besides New York? The only ones that come to mind are Nova (Arizona), Ms. Marvel (New Jersey), and Speedball (Pennsylvania). And to my knowledge, all three of them quit their respective Avengers teams.
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On the USAvengers first-issue-cover team alone you've got a Brazilian team leader, a woman from Norway, a woman from [whatever fictional nation Tony Stark's origin story took place], and Squirrel Girl has dual Canadian/American citizenship. Also the creative team is from England and Mexico. It's kind of a strangely marketed book, actually.
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Nov 12, 2016 20:04
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Edge & Christian posted:On the USAvengers first-issue-cover team alone you've got a Brazilian team leader, a woman from Norway, a woman from [whatever fictional nation Tony Stark's origin story took place], and Squirrel Girl has dual Canadian/American citizenship. Also the creative team is from England and Mexico. I mean, Melting Pot of Culture and all that. Onmi posted:Tangentially related, one of the few reasons I'm glad that Renew Your Vows is its own universe is, barring another Secret Wars or Spider-Verse, Marvels endless crossover events will not touch it. The story wont be interrupted 7 issues in because Schlong Johnson has begun to turn everyone in the world into Pasties and Spidey needs to show up for the event even though he wont really do anything. Agreed. Instead of some kinda "Road To MindWαrs: Society" extra story at the end we'll just get some more Earnest Adventures of Spider-Dad. Just all Spider-family all the time.
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Nov 12, 2016 20:32
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Onmi posted:Tangentially related, one of the few reasons I'm glad that Renew Your Vows is its own universe is, barring another Secret Wars or Spider-Verse, Marvels endless crossover events will not touch it. The story wont be interrupted 7 issues in because Schlong Johnson has begun to turn everyone in the world into Pasties and Spidey needs to show up for the event even though he wont really do anything. yea that's always been annoying to me. I remember when I first started getting into comics, I only read spiderman and would be real confused sometimes because it seemed to skip around or refer to events I didn't know about because they weren't in the book I was reading
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Nov 12, 2016 20:54
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:I mean, Melting Pot of Culture and all that.
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Edge & Christian posted:That was mostly in response to the "Marvel's so-called diversity movement is all Americans anyway" or whatever from the previous page, but I mean, Sunspot and Pod and Toni Ho are (to the best of my knowledge) not American citizens, nor are either of the two main creative team member. Oh, alright then, yeah.
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Nov 12, 2016 21:20
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As a card-carrying non-American I'm fully fine with Marvel focusing on American characters if it means they're going to be better characters. Diversity for diversity's sake is as much a crutch as it is impetus for positive change. I think the gender disparity in top heroes was the most important thing for to cover and they're gettin there with Kamala, Laura and Thor and (sort-of) Carol, as well as a bunch of fun minor characters like Gwenpool, Doreen, Mockingbird and the various Spider-Ladies. I mean, Marvel's history of tying to create characters from where I come from has given us Banshee (who might actually be Scotish now that I think about it) and Bullseye that one time. I'm totally down with not having to read another Irish character that somebody thinks I'll get because he says "ye" instead of "you" and "talks loik dis at tree in da morning."
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Nov 12, 2016 22:11
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Maxwell Adams posted:Might as well. Marvel's current diverse lineup is already completely American, why not rev it to 110%. Well, I meant to reference the American Girl doll series, which the point is to show the diversity of Americas population.
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Nov 12, 2016 22:57
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Rhyno posted:I don't remember the details but I think two issues of GLC are just a massive goddamned mess. I think they retooled their entire plan for Sodam Yat and scrapped most of what they already had in the can. I imagine Geoff Johns realised late in the game that it could result in a Green Lantern more important than Hal Jordan, which is obviously unacceptable.
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Nov 12, 2016 23:53
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Nilbop posted:I mean, Marvel's history of tying to create characters from where I come from has given us Banshee (who might actually be Scotish now that I think about it) No, he was Irish. I have an old interview with Claremont where he talked about how he was worried that early '80s Banshee was way too much of an Irish stereotype.
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Nov 13, 2016 00:57
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Wanderer posted:No, he was Irish. I have an old interview with Claremont where he talked about how he was worried that early '80s Banshee was way too much of an Irish stereotype.
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Nessus posted:Dude had a clay pipe, called Chuck "Perfesser," and his brother literally had shillelagh powers There was also a Family Keep. It seriously hit every stereotype.
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Shawn posted:There was also a Family Keep. It seriously hit every stereotype. With attendant leprechauns. No, really.
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Nov 13, 2016 01:50
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SilverSupernova posted:So any other Avengers who are tied to specific states besides New York? You could just plop down various Hulks in Southwest states.
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Nov 13, 2016 01:58
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Shawn posted:There was also a Family Keep. It seriously hit every stereotype. I think they even retconned in his wife getting blown up by the IRA when she was visiting the north, presumably because they wanted some Irish stereotypes more relevant to the 1980s than the 1480s.
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Nov 13, 2016 02:07
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My entire understanding of the Irish is based off of Banshee and WWE's Sheamus.
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If Conor McGregor started using sonic screams I'd watch way more UFC.
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Nov 13, 2016 07:44
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At least Banshee got to keep his accent when they put him in a movie. Moira Mactaggert, the Scottish biologist, was changed to an American CIA agent. This has been a gripe of mine for a while.
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Maxwell Adams posted:At least Banshee got to keep his accent when they put him in a movie. Moira Mactaggert, the Scottish biologist, was changed to an American CIA agent. Played by an Australian no less.
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Nov 13, 2016 12:41
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I honestly couldn't tell what kind of accent the guy playing him in First Class had, the dude has a chronic case of the mumbles. See also that cool vampire film he did with Saoirse Ronan, my sense of disbelief wasn't broken by 200 year vampire ladies hiding in grim, seaside towns, it was that she could make any kind of connection with a dude incapable of speaking coherent sentences. The only film/show that captures Ireland as I've experienced it was Father Ted. Having spent several summers at my nan's on the Mayo coast, that show felt like a gosh darn documentary.
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Sentinel Red posted:The only film/show that captures Ireland as I've experienced it was Father Ted. Having spent several summers at my nan's on the Mayo coast, that show felt like a gosh darn documentary. Ever seen The Commitments?
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Nov 13, 2016 15:21
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Banshee had an accent in First Class?
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Aphrodite posted:Banshee had an accent in First Class? He was clearly trying to do something with his voice.
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Nov 13, 2016 17:48
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Rhyno posted:He was clearly trying to do something with his voice. At least they didn't get it completely wrong. Like having Emma Frost with an American accent, and then following that up by having Jean Grey with a British accent.
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Maxwell Adams posted:At least they didn't get it completely wrong. Like having Emma Frost with an American accent, and then following that up by having Jean Grey with a British accent. Emma frost is from Boston and only had a fake British
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So I have been slowly but surely plugging through the Ultimate Universe. Just hit Ultimate Nightmare which is good so far. I hit the point where Ultimate X-Men starts getting bad. After Millar leaves, Bendis picks up and the book does get a little shaken, but Bendis rights the ship. Then BKV takes over and the book has gone off a cliff. Man it isn't good now. Ultimate War was dumb. I have also hit the point where USM is good. I felt that until the Sinister six arc the book was just ok. Now it is good and enjoyable. Poor Gwen.
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bobkatt013 posted:Emma frost is from Boston and only had a fake British And Sophie Turner's American accent was fine.
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bobkatt013 posted:Emma frost is from Boston and only had a fake British And you can basically flip a coin to see if any given writer will write her as posh British or New England old money.
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Nov 14, 2016 00:18
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But that's the beauty of it. They're both fine, because she fakes it.
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Is she even rich anymore. With all the times she was on the lam or that her house exploded, you'd think she'd be broke.
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she had suitcases filled with money even while living in that old weapon x facility with edgelord cyclops, I'm sure she's doing fine
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I don't think a telepath needs money often, and when they do it's easy to get.
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During Schism/Regenesis she mentioned that she liquidated most of her assets and spent it to fund Utopia since they didn't have Worthington money anymore.
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bobkatt013 posted:Emma frost is from Boston and only had a fake British You know she had the thickest imaginable Bostonian accent, but thousands in diction lessons, she's got what is normally called a Mid Atlantic accent, which is the accent rich women on the Simpsons tend to have.
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twistedmentat posted:You know she had the thickest imaginable Bostonian accent, but thousands in diction lessons, she's got what is normally called a Mid Atlantic accent, which is the accent rich women on the Simpsons tend to have. All I can think about now is the newsradio episode in which Jon Lovitz causes Maura Tierney to regain her Boston accent
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twistedmentat posted:You know she had the thickest imaginable Bostonian accent, but thousands in diction lessons, she's got what is normally called a Mid Atlantic accent, which is the accent rich women on the Simpsons tend to have. Nah, Emma came from money. I'm betting she started out with the old-school Boston brahmin accent - which I think is fundamentally the same as the Mid Atlantic but I can't be arsed to check right now. She didn't grow up in Southie or anything.
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I wonder if Emma ever made one of her posh quips about "superior breeding" within earshot of Magneto.
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twistedmentat posted:You know she had the thickest imaginable Bostonian accent, but thousands in diction lessons, she's got what is normally called a Mid Atlantic accent, which is the accent rich women on the Simpsons tend to have. It's not consistent. There are also times when it's said it's British.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Nah, Emma came from money. I'm betting she started out with the old-school Boston brahmin accent - which I think is fundamentally the same as the Mid Atlantic but I can't be arsed to check right now. In at least one of her origins she's poor and homeless and uses her powers to change that.
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