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Karl Barks posted:apparently u weren't voting LOL No we were. Independents and millenials however aka progs were not. They wrote bozo the clown or harambe on the ticket. Or hung out by the fireplace. So, how did knitting by the fireplace go for you?
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NumberLast posted:When did people agree on this new definition of the word "Racism"? I hear it a lot, but I never got the memo. It's old. Sociology defines racism that way.
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I just wanna quickly say how glad I am to finally see how I'm not crazy about class replacing race as the major division in our society. Like this has something that had been kicking around in my head as a child and member of the comfortable salary class from years ago, hearing the voice of people I knew being all "I'm all for social justice as long as there's good wine and cheese." These are people who vote 100% democrat, good reliable voters, always tip 15%, black, hispanic, asian, gay, jewish, muslim friends... and totally lost the plot on people not_like_them.
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Princess Di posted:It's old. Sociology defines racism that way. Huh, the only definitions of racism I ever saw for most of my life are basically "Racial stereotyping." And the only ones I can find that don't use it that way are inside of academic papers from the 1990's. Doesn't seem very widespread. Man, is it annoying when common words are jargon that mean something rather different, kinda like "Resolution." NumberLast has issued a correction as of 02:45 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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Princess Di posted:Omg, they absolutely fear for their healthcare and plenty of young minorities have kids to care for. I don't mean to say that minorities are following idpol. Castronaut and I are referring to a particular privileged class of college students.
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Nov 13, 2016 02:34
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Princess Di posted:No we were. sorry, that you, lost, dude
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Vox Nihili posted:Enten spitting truth suddenly: it wopuld have made literally zero difference because she had absolutely no message for them whatsoever
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Princess Di posted:Independents and millenials however aka progs were not. If you think midwest independants and progressives are the same thing you are a goddamn idiot
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Flubby posted:I don't know about this Bernie 2020 talk. I love Bernie and all, but he's going to be so old. He was already old in 2016. Turns out, in 2020, he may be even older. I'm more Bernie ~now~ for Bernie stuff rather than focusing on 4 years. The election in 2 years is important too.
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Princess Di posted:No we were.
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Cubey posted:it wopuld have made literally zero difference because she had absolutely no message for them whatsoever She would have taken a photo op with the butter cow.
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Princess Di posted:No we were. What is this fireplace thing a reference to? Also, your avatar is really doing a number for bringing out your posting voice.
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We should all be really worried about the next decade. Self driving trucks are going to swing people further to the right as they get left behind. https://twitter.com/griph/status/796539192721506304
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*smug liberal voice* lol don't u have a fireplace dumb millenial, vote for the candidate i like idiot
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Fidel Castronaut posted:Haha what the gently caress. They don't even have right-to-work in Ohio, what is OSU doing? I got a degree from OSU and it can eat a dick Pener Kropoopkin posted:If you want a good time, start researching primary documents written by slave masters while you still have access to a university library. The 19th Century South was like if alt right dweebs were allowed to run society. Try reading Konstantin Pobedonostsev
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It's also time liberals struck "white" out from their common lexicon of insults. "Such a white thing to do" or "white people problems"  or "white people haha am I right?", this isn't a white supremacy/white pride thing, people need to stop conflating ALL behaviors with race. The coastal elite have been making GBS threads on midwestern whites for ages now and you wonder why disadvantaged working class whites tune out democratic messaging? I'm not as good at communicating as others when it comes to politics but seriously it's bullshit to poo poo on "rednecks" or "hicks" or "white trash" and in the same sentence get pissy when lower class urban blacks are called "ghetto". It's all a form of classism. The DNC expected the Rust Belt to turn out for Hillary like good little Democrats then when they went to Trump in droves people get mad at them for all being racist/sexist hicks. They're people too and liberals shouldn't write them off because they're white and white people "need to die" or whatever. No matter what race we are, we're all getting hosed over together. Justin Tyme has issued a correction as of 02:48 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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Smoking Crow posted:Try reading Konstantin Pobedonostsev How hard is his race science game? Because slavemasters were all about the race science.
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Princess Di posted:No we were. lmao @ the idea of millenials even owning a home, much less one with a fireplace you don't loving get it at all, do you?
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Justin Tyme posted:It's also time liberals struck "white" out from their common lexicon of insults. "Such a white thing to do" or "white people problems" The more significant divide is between the metropoles and their hinterlands. Even real cities are being cannibalized and having their capital sucked up into major service centers, like New York, Chicago, St. Louis, Denver, etc. There isn't any difference in the economic relations of that dynamic between people in the Midwest, or the people in rural parts of New York.
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Nov 13, 2016 02:49
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Hillary did worse with every minority demographic than Obama. You can't just draw the end of your analysis here without tangling with the issue of why 8% of the black vote went to Trump. Hillary did worse with every minority demographic than Obama. This is a bad faith argument. That is willfully ignoring the fact that Hillary was never going to reach those numbers since Obama was the first black president in the history of the United States. Now if Hillary's team believed they were going to do that, then that is yet another major gently caress up. Our turnout was very much in line with what is expected from a winning democratic candidate. Also really? You are going to talk about 8 percent of the black vote when we make up 13 percent of the population when 63 percent of white men voted for Trump and of those that remained many didn't care for him but didn't find blatant racism disgusting enough to get them to vote against it? At what point do middle class white people take responsibility for the personal antipathy that led them to just sit this one out. If we are going to acknowledge the rust belt's part in this, where is the admission that the poor descendants of steel workers did not do this alone?
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https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/797605120850722817 Jesus H.
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Justin Tyme posted:It's also time liberals struck "white" out from their common lexicon of insults. "Such a white thing to do" or "white people problems" If I could collectively tell the left anything, it would be that institutional power might be necessary to make someone a racist, but anybody can be an rear end in a top hat.
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friendly reminder to show up at meetings and get in touch with your state's democratic party, even if they are already likely to back ellison. make your loving voice heard, we cannot have people like this guy in control of the dnc any longer.
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Princess Di posted:At what point do middle class white people take responsibility for the personal antipathy that led them to just sit this one out. Much like Bernie wanted to.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:How hard is his race science game? Because slavemasters were all about the race science. No race science, but he did believe that democracy was a decadent western system of mob rule He also wanted to ban religions other than Russian Orthodoxy and forced Jews off their land
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Princess Di posted:Hillary did worse with every minority demographic than Obama. I'm not going to accept responsibility for an identity grouping that I'm not even a part of. I only brought up the black vote, because the conventional wisdom was that Trump shouldn't have gotten any of it. Well what about the quarter of the Hispanic vote that went to Trump too? Hillary lost on pitifully small margins, which meant those minority votes for Trump made a difference. How can you account for that? Blaming the racism problem exclusively on whites is a counter-productive analysis.
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i just can't "WHITE PRIVILEGE!" understand why "YES ALL MEN" middle class "HAMILTON HAMILTON HAMILTON YAAS" white males "A BASKET OF DEPLORABLES" didn't show up to vote for "POKEMON GO OUT TO THE POLLS!" my candidate...
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gently caress hamilton it makes me want to go to grad school so i can be a professor of american history and fix the poo poo it caused
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Bigotry is bigotry, no matter the person espousing it.
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Karl Barks posted:sorry, that you, lost, dude I'm happy for you though! Your guy won! Oh it wasn't your guy? If you didn't vote against him you did fuckall this election. How was your Riesling by the fireplace? I hear Grapes of Wrath is good reading this time of year.
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Princess Di posted:I'm happy for you though! 
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Also, "Middle class white people" didn't sit this out. They voted decisively for Trump. A third of the country only has an income of $20,000 or less. 71% makes less than $50,000. The middle class in general is a rump of what it used to be, and the white middle class sure as Hell didn't sit this out. Poor people did.
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Princess Di posted:I'm happy for you though! If you didn't vote for Clinton you're a bad person!!! ^ Literally why Hillary lost. You can't shame people into believing in something. And you certainly couldn't shame people into voting for the neoliberal dumpster fire of Hillary Clinton.
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Princess Di posted:I'm happy for you though! you're so loving corn cobbed right now, lmao
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Princess Di posted:I'm happy for you though! People don't have an obligation to vote for your side, or even vote at all.
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clinton's war on coal would have ended my enjoyment of The Fireplace
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Seriously lol if you think Hillary was failed, rather than Hillary (and the Dems) failed the electorate.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I don't mean to say that minorities are following idpol. Castronaut and I are referring to a particular privileged class of college students. Well I'm glad that's cleared up finally. It appears here on SA, it doesn't mean what I think it means. Please keep in mind how it's normally used though. Jaminjami posted:millenials cant afford a fireplace or knitting The picky ones can. Only the best for Harambe. gently caress that baby though.
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