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Venom Snake posted:Bernie isn't hated by democrats not explicitly but he got kinda shafted by the DNC and he is basically telling people "politicians both D and R have been loving you for decades" my point was they are both old, very much to the left of the established parties and right about what's ailing their countries including that the left has failed the people
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Paolomania posted:It is time now for all believers to bow down and worship at the idol of Willa Rogers, who we know is the true Khaleesi of C-SPAM! Our Cassandra so often so right and yet receives such poo poo for it. holy poo poo
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How could the democrats have threaded the needle with "Obama did a good job" and "poo poo is hosed up and we need change" in an elegant way?
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iospace posted:Most tech companies are liberal riiiiiiiiiiight up to the point where unions are involved. Then NOPE, NO UNION FOR YOU! ENJOY YOUR 80 HOUR WORKWEEKS AND THE PRIDE OF WORKING FOR A COMPANY LIKE AMAZON! quote:(oh, and it's not unique to tech companies too. It's well documented that retail and restaurants like to use salary based employees as "free overtime", something which Obama squashed this year for people making under around 48k. Watch Trump reverse that one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Path_to_Prosperity Typo has issued a correction as of 15:44 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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iospace posted:See, here's the thing, and this is the last I'm saying about Bernie vs Hillary. Hillary didn't lose PA by all that much (70k votes), there's no reason why a better candidate couldn't have taken it Now that Trump won we are becoming as fatalistic to the idea of an inevitable Trump victory just as we were to an inevitable Hillary victory a week ago
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mike12345 posted:he's going to be impeached before taking office 
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if donald trump devotes all his energy to humiliating mitt romney for 4 years it wont realy be that bad
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Swan Oat posted:if donald trump devotes all his energy to humiliating mitt romney for 4 years it wont realy be that bad Well, we know Ted Cruz is hosed forever, so that's also a silver lining.
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nachos posted:How could the democrats have threaded the needle with "Obama did a good job" and "poo poo is hosed up and we need change" in an elegant way? Blame the Republicans
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iospace posted:Well, we know Ted Cruz is hosed forever, so that's also a silver lining. Also Trump might truly hate being president and all its responsibilities
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Typo posted:Hillary didn't lose PA by all that much (70k votes), there's no reason why a better candidate couldn't have taken it Just to be clear, you mean Trump or Bernie here?
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Also Trump might truly hate being president and all its responsibilities Congrats, we get shadow president Pence now. Enjoy forced conversion therapy.
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Holy poo poo that chapo trap house episode is so loving good.
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iospace posted:Congrats, we get shadow president Pence now. Enjoy forced conversion therapy. Reminder that this was basically what Don jr. promised Kasich in an effort to lure him onto the ticket.
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Paolomania posted:It is time now for all believers to bow down and worship at the idol of Willa Rogers, who we know is the true Khaleesi of C-SPAM! Our Cassandra so often so right and yet receives such poo poo for it. Whiskey Juvenile posted:here's a common sense solution: gently caress rural America 
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iospace posted:Congrats, we get shadow president Pence now. Enjoy forced conversion therapy. We're already getting that. I fully expect ted Cruz at my door to personally drag me to the trains. But I want Trump to dislike all the demands put on him as a figurehead in a position that isn't one. He doesn't deserve to enjoy this.
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nachos posted:How could the democrats have threaded the needle with "Obama did a good job" and "poo poo is hosed up and we need change" in an elegant way? When did you ever hear Hillary talk about obstruction?
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) would have beaten Donald Trump by a historic margin if he had been the Democratic nominee, according to a private pre-election poll provided to The Huffington Post. Sheng-ji Yang posted:although considering how off the polls were, probably worth taking with a grain of salt It is worth pointing out that this very poll had the GE at Clinton +2, which will probably be exactly right.
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Thoguh posted:Equating all immigration is part of the problem. poo poo like 'most US Nobel Prize winners are immigrants!' rings hollow because all but a small group of super racists want to completely shut the borders to any type of immigration. Bringing in smart and successful people who go through the process isn't what a working class person is opposed to. They're opposed to having competition for the dwindling number of low skill jobs from people who accept terrible pay and working conditions because they are even more desperate than everybody else. Can't get rid of supply without addressing demand. You can literally kick 100% of the illegal immigrants out of the country and as long as there are American companies who hire them they will return. Deport all the business owners who use undocumented immigrant labor imo. This includes all the agriculture corporations that post massive profits while exploiting slave-labor.
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"I can't believe the media only reported on her fictional scandals", says campaign that would let their candidate disappear from the national stage for days at a time.
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iospace posted:See, here's the thing, and this is the last I'm saying about Bernie vs Hillary. This is so stupid for so many reasons. 1) Bernie was very effective at turning out young and midwestern/rural voters 2) He was also effective at minority outreach, yes clinton won with lations and black people, but Bernie won with arab americans and native americans 3) It was the Dem primary, both candidates were pretty good on minority issues. I have no doubt he would have been able to turn out clinton voters in the general.
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Swan Oat posted:freddie is a handsome boy and im glad hes posting again It was funny to see the reactions from the image obsessed parts of the Left claiming that Freddie & Connor are too obsessed with white workers (even though they were absolutely decisive), only for Freddie to remind them all that deindustrialization affected black workers even worse, and that their suppressed turnout also made the difference. Did Hillary ever mention Flint, Michigan even once after the debates?
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Nae-naeing on Ellen is the pinnacle of black outreach. There's no chance Bernie could have done something that reflected an actual conversation and engagement with issues facing black communities.
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Eh Bernie's primary campaign was a clusterfuck. He would have made different mistakes. We'll never know if they would have been fatal. But in the end this might work out better? A dramatic failure of the business wing of the democrats, and what's probably going to be a really disappointing tears for R voters while a bad but energizing time for Ds. Bernie getting obstructed to hell isn't going to lead to motivated midterm voters probably.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:although considering how off the polls were, probably worth taking with a grain of salt Especially in retrospect.
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This is what infuriates me. It's totally possible, even likely, that with a better candidate or better run campaign, we would've won this. However, even on that much happier timeline we'd still be playing perpetual defense on the Presidency and Senate, while never taking the house and watching Republican legislatures burn down their states and set increasingly impossible districts every 10 years. Don't think I have forgotten all the people in the liberal twitter/blog crowd that sneered at Freddie as a "brogressive" and basically called him a racist for pointing out that safe space academic babble is political suicide.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It was funny to see the reactions from the image obsessed parts of the Left claiming that Freddie & Connor are too obsessed with white workers (even though they were absolutely decisive), only for Freddie to remind them all that deindustrialization affected black workers even worse, and that their suppressed turnout also made the difference.  why continue to bring it up when you have the power of chart`s
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That's the shittest summoning circle I've ever seen. You shame Satan abuela, get out.
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Megiddo posted:And I'm sure that if we had months of Trump hitting him for being a socialist commie and dog whistle America First/anti-"Globalist" bullshit, coupled with Bernie's minority turnout being worse than Hillary's that things would've been so much different! Granted it would one of the ONLY issues Trump would be able to hit too. Instead of like, 20 for Hillary.
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iospace posted:Congrats, we get shadow president Pence now. Enjoy forced conversion therapy. There's still a chance the Kushner faction wins and they just massively grift the federal budget for 4 years.
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