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Peel posted:you guys in ny and wa need to get liquidating The WA state senate is 25 to 24 Dem. But a shitheel Dem caucuses with the Republicans, giving them control. Hooray, Washington politics!
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:these protests seem to be as vague and aimless as Occupy Wall Street OWS was good and so are these protests, and I hope they continue every day until january 20 2021
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watching socialists blow the only opportunity theyve been given in decades is pretty lmao and rofl
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poo poo forgot somethin  
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:these protests seem to be as vague and aimless as Occupy Wall Street yeah okay let's give it back to the privileged boomer fucks that let it happen in the first place
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:these protests seem to be as vague and aimless as Occupy Wall Street
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NumberLast posted:The WA state senate is 25 to 24 Dem. why
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Mokelumne Trekka posted:a strike over what - that he won? Trump loving won, I say this as a progressive too. has everyone lost their goddamn minds I went to the first NYC protest. It's not like we expected Trump to come downstairs and say "Well you got me, I resign." It was more of a solidarity thing because tons of people are terrified rn, they need to know people are going to fight for them. Also the PSL was making the rounds and giving recruitment speeches.
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"check out this sick burn i laid on a baby" - socialists itt, unionically
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logikv9 posted:why They made him pro tem, I believe.
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the demonstrations that happened spontaneously while the left is reorganizing and without leadership sure are vague and aimless millennials am i right 
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Al! posted:"check out this sick burn i laid on a baby" - socialists itt, unionically "I supported Hillary and called her a great candidate." Idiots, anti-unionically
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The lessons from this election are pretty clear to me: 1. You need to motivate your base to vote for you due to a clear message for the working American. People are blaming Hillary's on turnout or the fact that working class whites abandoned her. In reality, both are due to the same symptom. Diehard Democrats stayed home because they weren't motivated to go to the polls due to Hillary being seen as a milquetoast candidate. Many working class white Americans turned to Trump because he at least put focus on them with trying to bring back jobs to their local economy despite corporate globalism. It is very easy to incorporate that into left wing politics, because it is part of left wing politics. 2. Focus the hell out of downticket races. Obama's presidency has shown us one thing, you can't do squat unless you have the House and Senate. However, even without the Republican's obstructionism, we wouldn't have been able to do as much as we want. Remember, Obama had his hand tied to a degree when he had a super majority due to blue dog Democrats. We're going to have to figure out not only how to get as many Democrats elected as possible, however we have to also make sure that as many of them actually believe in the party's ideals. This I feel will be the greatest challenge. Note I am not saying abandon, scale back, or even not go forward with social and racial issues, but class politics needs to take a more visible seat than it currently does. 3. Incrementalism is dead. Politics are too unpredictable and it gives time for movements to fizzle out. Triangulation is dead. Many undecided voters aren't undecided because they think "the left is too far left" and "the right is too far right". Many are undecided because they aren't sure which route to take, and who ever makes the best case they will move. 4. Don't get too comfortable, the future is very uncertain. We rested on our laurels believing that a Democrat would have to win office due to America becoming more and more minority every day. We didn't rest on unpredictable things such as Republicans being able to move some of those minorities (Hispanics and Asians), the lack of turnout for certain groups, and key groups flipping. Prepare for the worst, hope for the best. 5. The DNC needs to clean up. I'm sorry but when you have been losing the House and Senate for years and lose to Donald Trump, you need to go period. The DNCs thought process and strategies are straight up toxic. 6. I'm going to bring this up even though I predict a lot of people will quote this and call me crazy. Focus on changing the structure. At least start by lowering the cloture threshold. Possibly to 55? Maybe to 51, but that will pretty much make it pointless. Don't get angry at "gerrymandering" and instead get mad at the true culprit, the lack of proportional representation in the House. Also, I'd count on dismantling the electoral college. Democrats have to start attacking the disease rather than the symptoms. The problem is that I can imagine some backlash from key voting groups. punk rebel ecks has issued a correction as of 21:35 on Nov 13, 2016 |
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yeah, i went to one of those "candleless vigils" last night not with intention of doing useless grieving but getting them involved with ways of resistance. probably got a dozen new volunteers for the effort to take over the dnc people are angry and want to lash out, it's the perfect opportunity to organize and gain followers
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NumberLast posted:"I supported Hillary and called her a great candidate." 2 be more effective w/ this burn write my name on a baby and scream this at it but punchin down on people u believe are wrong does feel good doesnt it welcome.......... 2 tha democratic party
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NumberLast posted:"I supported Hillary and called her a great candidate."
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Al! posted:2 be more effective w/ this burn write my name on a baby and scream this at it 
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Al! posted:2 be more effective w/ this burn write my name on a baby and scream this at it we don't just believe that the DNCe was wrong, there was a vote.
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i think babypunchers is actually a p good name for the crew itt........ Ill make a tag for u later
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Al! posted:i think babypunchers is actually a p good name for the crew itt........ Ill make a tag for u later Rehumanize yourself and face to socialism
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Hamelekim posted:I love the end of that last paragraph. It encapsulates everything that was and is wrong with politics right now. It was her turn.
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Nonsense posted:Who updated the Nasty women tag and why It's fancier
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yall are missing the best part of the lena dunham weepmail 
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Al! posted:i think babypunchers is actually a p good name for the crew itt........ Ill make a tag for u later someone lost his bottle
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Sir Tonk posted:It's fancier When will the US Mint release commemorative coins of TRUMP
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"Stupid effete millennials what's a protest going to do" 1) I'm sick of being poo poo on because older generations won't cop to their own failures 2) Protests are a public showing of support and enthusiasm, they don't have to have direct legislative affects 3) OWS was a net positive, why the gently caress do you think we are where we are now? Anti-elite sentiment had to begin somewhere
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Only in trumps America could I find a thread split over the issue of being nice/being mean to babies Sad sad times for our country
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Iron Twinkie posted:Last year a few minutes up the road from me, 15 white supremacists in pickup trucks waving confederate flags rolled up to a child's birthday party screaming the n word and threatening to kill people. My wife and I stood in line for over an hour to vote for a candidate that we both hated because we were afraid of what people like that would think they could get away with under Trump. All the while HRC is running a 2 billion dollar circle jerk instead of a real political campaign. Welcome, friend.
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LinYutang posted:yall are missing the best part of the lena dunham weepmail What the gently caress is "violent privilege" referring to? Lena Dunham posted:I ached in the places that make me a woman, the places I've been grabbed so carelessly, the places we are struggling to call our own. Is she referring to her vagina?
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Eh I kind of agree with ows shod have had a plan or demands or something. Protesting Trump is a little different because the idea is to deny the gop a mandate. Making a show about not liking wallstreet feels more hollow. Who the hell ever liked wall Street?
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Bass Bottles posted:Only in trumps America could I find a thread split over the issue of being nice/being mean to babies Post baby feud world
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Bass Bottles posted:Only in trumps America could I find a thread split over the issue of being nice/being mean to babies everyone hated that baby
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Eh I kind of agree with ows shod have had a plan or demands or something. Protesting Trump is a little different because the idea is to deny the gop a mandate. Making a show about not liking wallstreet feels more hollow. Who the hell ever liked wall Street? A LOT of people. Prior to OWS, you couldn't even talk about income inequality in politics. Wall Street was seen as defacto necessary golden goose. OWS changed the tone of politics, even for the Republican Party. unwantedplatypus posted:"Stupid effete millennials what's a protest going to do" OWS was probably the most successful left wing protest in decades. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders didn't run if it wasn't for OWS. It was the beginning of the populist left in mainstream American discourse.
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Paolomania posted:It is time now for all believers to bow down and worship at the idol of Willa Rogers, who we know is the true Khaleesi of C-SPAM! Our Cassandra so often so right and yet receives such poo poo for it. Willa Rogers is super cool and good and one of the few reasons I ever read D&D during that era.
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LinYutang posted:yall are missing the best part of the lena dunham weepmail I'm kinda torn between this and the "it was her job" part.
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NumberLast posted:Is...Is this gaslighting? na fam justshowin u the true light  ctrl+f emma goldman
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Al! posted:emma goldman Uh, no thanks Anyway, nice meltdown etc etc
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punk rebel ecks posted:A LOT of people. Prior to OWS, you couldn't even talk about income inequality in politics. Wall Street was seen as defacto necessary golden goose. OWS changed the tone of politics, even for the Republican Party. Okay. I was young enough then to not really notice the change.
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