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2-1 and beyond are invalid because you only know to go there because an NPC tells you
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In his defense who actually listens to NPC dialogue?
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Nov 13, 2016 03:22
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People who want to know what the gently caress is going on instead of bull-rushing on and then bitch about not knowing why they're doing what they're doing? 
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Nov 13, 2016 03:32
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Outrail posted:In his defense who actually listens to NPC dialogue? Counterpoint: Read The loving Quest
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Nov 13, 2016 03:32
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The kind of people who mash through the dialogue and then bitch about "Well where am I supposed to go, where am I supposed to do" deserve to be beaten with the controllers.
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Nov 13, 2016 03:33
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Malachite_Dragon posted:The kind of people who mash through the dialogue and then bitch about "Well where am I supposed to go, where am I supposed to do" deserve to be beaten with the controllers. Modern video games have trained me that I don't have to pay attention to their terrible writing since there will either be only one path that I cannot vary from or there will be a giant arrow pointing straight at where they want me to go (which I promptly ignore and go off to do my own thing).
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Nov 13, 2016 04:19
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WLDl-RBQi0
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Nov 13, 2016 05:21
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Nov 13, 2016 05:29
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Lord Chumley posted:his games will be bad mother fucker must've gotten an F.
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Nov 13, 2016 06:55
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In his defense he's not entirely wrong. There seems to be a growing issue where basic mechanics and other things are explained through blocks of text because the devs want to put in witty or cute bullshit or whatever. A simple sign saying drawbridge or any other visual cue would have been better than having the player talk to an npc, most of whom don't say anything worthwhile, just so they can have a shy guy say "Technology is something, ain't it". I can't defend that he apparently spent like 30 minutes in this area and never once bothered to actually go near the loving bridge.
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Nov 13, 2016 07:36
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Or not talk to any NPCs in the area.
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Nov 13, 2016 07:51
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In the new Paper Mario game most npc's will have hints on how to progress so that shouldn't have been a big surprise either way.
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Nov 13, 2016 08:26
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Random Stranger posted:Modern video games have trained me that I don't have to pay attention to their terrible writing since there will either be only one path that I cannot vary from or there will be a giant arrow pointing straight at where they want me to go (which I promptly ignore and go off to do my own thing). buh dah duh. hud bud dah duh dah duhdaduh. blugnanhung
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Nov 13, 2016 08:30
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This kind of thing is why Valve does a lot of playtesting with their games. They make sure players understand the core verbs of what the game expects of them, and one of the ways they do that is by providing examples of it before the player has to interact with it themselves. The age of hitting space on every wall to find the hidden door is dead. If Valve had designed that Mario level, there probably would've been a monster that opened the gate for a second, so that players understood that the bridge is a gameplay element and not a background barrier.
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Nov 13, 2016 09:13
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If valve had designed it, it would still be rumor instead of a released product.
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Nov 13, 2016 09:18
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Chichevache posted:Jesus, that's almost as bad as "I studied critical thinking an your argument is invalid because you used an ad hominem attack". It's great when you get to explain that it wasn't an ad hom, it was an actual insult because they're a loving idiot.
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Nov 13, 2016 10:35
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MisterBibs posted:If Valve had designed that Mario level, there probably would've been a monster that opened the gate for a second, so that players understood that the bridge is a gameplay element and not a background barrier. It's possible, but streamers and live-commentary let's players are notoriously bad at doing even basic exploration of the systems at hand, even with all the explanations in the world. Like, gently caress, how hard is it to try to go next to the bridge? As soon as you move near it by accident it'll move up!
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Nov 13, 2016 11:42
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Somfin posted:It's possible, but streamers and live-commentary let's players are notoriously bad at doing even basic exploration of the systems at hand, even with all the explanations in the world. With all due fairness if most of them would just shut the gently caress up and focus on the game for a minor second they'd be fine.
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Nov 13, 2016 12:01
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Haha! But is it child abuse? Discuss.
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Nov 13, 2016 12:56
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burexas.irom posted:Haha! But is it child abuse? Discuss. Fuckin yeah, probably. It's also the funniest thing I've ever seen, so there's really no way to say it's a bad thing.
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Nov 13, 2016 17:24
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Somfin posted:It's possible, but streamers and live-commentary let's players are notoriously bad at doing even basic exploration of the systems at hand, even with all the explanations in the world. I don't get why anyone watches streamers in the first place, but why would anyone watch one that's bad at a game?
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Nov 13, 2016 17:30
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canyoneer posted:I don't get why anyone watches streamers in the first place, but why would anyone watch one that's bad at a game? You're in the schadenfreude thread. We celebrate others' incompetence on every page.
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Nov 13, 2016 17:31
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Ah, good ol' Pbat. Not having any kind of awareness is kind of his thing (though not on purpose). See: Terraria. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BhRLs1uZQA
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Nov 13, 2016 18:50
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burexas.irom posted:Haha! But is it child abuse? Discuss. Abuse? No. Endangerment? Yeah, put the phone away while driving!
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Nov 13, 2016 19:02
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I don't play a lot of that type of games, but isn't one of the main points of them to go around and inspect every object and talk to absolutely everyone?
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Nov 13, 2016 20:06
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one of the selling points of the paper mario games is the writing, so if you're not the kind of person who talks to all the NPCs why are you even playing in the first place
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Nov 13, 2016 20:12
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It turns out that putting your indicator on doesn't magically make traffic in the next lane stop This happened to me last Thurs. A dude in the left lane put on his right blinker in rush hour traffic and proceeded to just drift right in front of me without hesitation. He absolutely knew someone was there. He came within a few inches of me, and then flipped me the bird because I honked at him. Some people are such entitled sacks of poo poo that they really do believe that turning on their turn signal entitles them to just go and "everybody else better LOOK OUT!"
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Nov 13, 2016 20:24
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Also the game has long since established that you need to talk to NPCs for hints/tutorials. That bridge doesn't exist in a vacuum.
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Nov 13, 2016 20:24
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Yeah, if that Toad was the only NPC in the game that you could talk to then sure, that would be bad design. But its Paper Mario, talking to NPCs is a thing you do in the game.
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Nov 13, 2016 21:12
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canyoneer posted:I don't get why anyone watches streamers in the first place, but why would anyone watch one that's bad at a game? Retsupurae is good fun.
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Nov 13, 2016 22:29
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 All the Saints need to do is kick the extra point to win the game. Instead, they give up the first defensive two-point conversion in history.
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Nov 13, 2016 22:34
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Wasabi the J posted:Retsupurae is good fun. I've seen a few Retsupurare and coming from a perspective where I'm not personally acquainted with forums heroes [whoever does Retsupuraes], they were really not funny at all. Take a boring, unpleasant video of an annoying nerd talking over a worthless game, how to make this entertaining... by adding MORE annoying nerd voices. I've never heard anyone, like, quote something interesting or a particularly memorable joke, just "Yup, nothing cracks ya up like multiple layers of losers commenting into their screens". That's all well and good when it's text-based forums, but then I don't have to hear everybody's wheedly whines and they don't have to hear mine DILETTANTE: Uhhrrrmmm huhh. Whoops, dropped my mic. CONNOISSEUR: Not me, human being!
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Nov 13, 2016 22:56
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I don't think slowbeef or diabetus has ever called anyone a human being in a video
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Nov 13, 2016 23:20
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Watching some guy try to cash in on the early let's play market but be either insufferable or bad at videogames was pure mean spirited fun. One guy couldn't even beat the first level of MGS for Christ's sake.
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Nov 13, 2016 23:26
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Cobweb Heart posted:I've seen a few Retsupurare and coming from a perspective where I'm not personally acquainted with forums heroes [whoever does Retsupuraes], they were really not funny at all. Take a boring, unpleasant video of an annoying nerd talking over a worthless game, how to make this entertaining... by adding MORE annoying nerd voices. I've never heard anyone, like, quote something interesting or a particularly memorable joke, just "Yup, nothing cracks ya up like multiple layers of losers commenting into their screens". That's all well and good when it's text-based forums, but then I don't have to hear everybody's wheedly whines and they don't have to hear mine is the schadenfreude that we had to read this post
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Nov 13, 2016 23:26
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Crocoswine posted:I don't think slowbeef or diabetus has ever called anyone a human being in a video Not recently, but six or so years ago it wasn't considered too much of a faux pas on SA or the internet in general (or even real life for that matter).
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Nov 14, 2016 00:13
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Paladinus posted:Not recently, but six or so years ago it wasn't considered too much of a faux pas on SA or the internet in general (or even real life for that matter). Please post that video, because I'm 100% positive he has never called anyone a human being in any of his videos.
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Nov 14, 2016 00:41
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who cares
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Tater Love 
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Stex T posted:
They really have poo poo luck on crucial XPs, huh? That one's even worse than Carney's.
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