tadashi posted:

They decided the 2008 primary election strategy would surely work in a general election if they just tried it again.

I AM THE TOILET posted:

Every incestuous, mongrel dipshit hayseed buttfuck crawled out of their rotting logs out in the holler and stumbled to the polls and we had to count their loving votes and they won. And they didn't vote because trump is going to make their lives better, but because trump is going to make brown peoples' lives worse than their own, and pettiness forms a great chunk of the seething obsidian morass that one could generously describe as their spirit.

bump_fn posted:

Just got off the phone w some friends and family about calling their reps and getting involved and I feel like that dbz Alex jones video

logikv9 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKVMUGwKcLE

ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:

for posterity, a la the DnD political cartoon thread:


nice

ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:

for posterity, a la the DnD political cartoon thread:

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

He is the toilet

hailthefish posted:

fixed it for you, so you can be less offended, god bless

Zikan posted:

Al! posted:

Grondoth posted:

I think the politoon thread has consumed some people who follow it. The idea behind the first incarnation was to contrast the intelligence, knowledge, and guts required to really talk about politics on a meaningful level with how just goddamn stupid the political cartoon universe is. It was "could you imagine the type of people who only see issues through these cartoons? Can you imagine how little they'd get?"
I think the thread is now full of those people.

Bass Bottles posted:

I feel like, no matter what happens, there will always be people at the end of everything saying "I knew it all along! How could you not have seen the obvious?"

Like, maybe it's true, but demonizing people isn't really helpful??? Idk. I find it hard to believe that HRC didn't do everything she thought necessary to win. But I also agree that she and her methods need to be completely wiped aside and the Bernie faction needs to give their thing a shot.

Zikan posted:

Pomp posted:

lol

exmarx posted:

Cartoons for real make people dumb as poo poo

bump_fn posted:

focus your anger on two groups: (a) the people who hosed this up and (b) the people who are at serious risk because of the fuckup. also dont just be angry be active


BE
ACTIVE
YOU
loving
GOONS

Wikkheiser posted:

https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/797926092157792256

Wikkheiser posted:

https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/797926092157792256

Wikkheiser posted:

https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/797926092157792256

bump_fn posted:

bernie is good
https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/797910430693789696

Digiwizzard posted:

Huh, weird. This corncob seems to be moving. It's almost like it's alive.

RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:

Reince Priebus named Trump's chief of staff

Wikkheiser posted:

https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/797926092157792256

etalian posted:

Any news if Fat Reek will get a job?

Raskolnikov38 posted:

fat reek's reward will be, at best, a presidential pardon for bridgegate

MJ12 posted:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/clintons-popular-vote-lead-will-grow-and-grow/507455/

This article is interesting because it's actually a good bridge if you're trying to convince centrist liberals to support more progressive policy. Clinton did, in fact, mobilize a pretty significant number of Democratic voters. In fact, her turnout might be within striking distance of Obama '12, which is pretty impressive since Obama had all of Clinton's brilliance, none of her baggage, and a lot of charisma. But middle America wasn't part of that coalition. They were left out, and they voted for Trump instead because they were desperate, because they were tired, and because, yes, some of them were racists who'd normally have sat it out, but we don't need or want #3. Democrats and millenials didn't fail Clinton, unless by that you mean you want to organize a million Democrats to move to the Rust Belt.

Clinton didn't fail to inspire the people she was talking to and the people whose issues she was speaking of addressing. She just, like so many people before her, failed to address the issues of a group which was hurting and desperate and looking with nostalgia in better times, and Trump tapped into that vein of dissatisfaction. The one thing Trump said that resonates with me right now is this. "What the hell have you got to lose?" I think, more than "Make America Great Again," that's what Trump's campaign was based on, and why it won. We let these guys rot so long they figured they had nothing to lose. And we hosed up. We took them for granted and we hosed up.

Thinking of it, I think the whole "Clinton was a Bad Candidate with a Bad Campaign (TM)" message is somewhat counterproductive no matter how true it is because it implies that if Clinton had been more charismatic (like Corey Booker) and her campaign had tweaked its algorithms better, they'd have won handily. Which is:

1. Probably true;
2. Justifies centrists going "we can do the same thing in 2020 and win."
3. Is probably going to make people who supported Clinton less inclined to listen (see #2).

And I get that lots of you guys got shat on by Clinton supporters and schadenfreude is fun and good but you're gonna need to convince the centrists to shut up and vote for your candidate too at some point. I agree with about 90% of what's said in this thread. I agree that there are systemic issues with the Democratic party as it is. But I think that these issues are systemic-and

exmarx posted:

Cartoons for real make people dumb as poo poo