Segmentation Fault posted:

Same reason tumblr identitarians love Steven Universe: it's garbage for intellectual babies with the nutritional value of chicken mcnuggets

mrmcd posted:

Lol wut?

I'm not really up to speed on UK politics but Corbyn seems at worst someone who's not going to win elections, not dragging people off to the gulags.

Well What Now posted:

this really seems like the kind of loss whose implications will eventually sink in to even the densest DNC motherfucker given enough time, but then again I know poo poo about the DNC

do you get that feeling?

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

shes a hardcore blairite

punk rebel ecks posted:

There were a gently caress TON of "etc."

I would be open to the argument that Sanders supporters had the quantity of obnoxious posters, but Hillary supporters had the quality of obnoxious posters.

Segmentation Fault posted:

What happened to your avatar

Dapper_Swindler posted:

this. its a show that makes sadbrains id politicos feel good watching it. plus it makes patrion money for wannabee hack critics. https://www.patreon.com/popdetective

Venom Snake posted:

The DNC is over hyped in it's reach. The people who you should care about the most are state parties right now. If the state partys bends the knee to the progressive cause then so will the DNC, DSCC, DCCC. Right now almost all of the big establishment blocks have bent the knee. Most of those who won't are already to crippled to resist.

Fair warning though that your not going to be able to bitch about the establishment when you are the establishment.

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

i banned myself because ebola didnt kill the world

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Thank you for your sacrifice in stopping ebola

Zikan posted:

it's cool to like a thing

its bad to shornhorn a reference to it to to normalize the evil we face

MJ12 posted:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/clintons-popular-vote-lead-will-grow-and-grow/507455/

This article is interesting because it's actually a good bridge if you're trying to convince centrist liberals to support more progressive policy. Clinton did, in fact, mobilize a pretty significant number of Democratic voters. In fact, her turnout might be within striking distance of Obama '12, which is pretty impressive since Obama had all of Clinton's brilliance, none of her baggage, and a lot of charisma. But middle America wasn't part of that coalition. They were left out, and they voted for Trump instead because they were desperate, because they were tired, and because, yes, some of them were racists who'd normally have sat it out, but we don't need or want #3. Democrats and millenials didn't fail Clinton, unless by that you mean you want to organize a million Democrats to move to the Rust Belt.

Clinton didn't fail to inspire the people she was talking to and the people whose issues she was speaking of addressing. She just, like so many people before her, failed to address the issues of a group which was hurting and desperate and looking with nostalgia in better times, and Trump tapped into that vein of dissatisfaction. The one thing Trump said that resonates with me right now is this. "What the hell have you got to lose?" I think, more than "Make America Great Again," that's what Trump's campaign was based on, and why it won. We let these guys rot so long they figured they had nothing to lose. And we hosed up. We took them for granted and we hosed up.

Thinking of it, I think the whole "Clinton was a Bad Candidate with a Bad Campaign (TM)" message is somewhat counterproductive no matter how true it is because it implies that if Clinton had been more charismatic (like Corey Booker) and her campaign had tweaked its algorithms better, they'd have won handily. Which is:

1. Probably true;
2. Justifies centrists going "we can do the same thing in 2020 and win."
3. Is probably going to make people who supported Clinton less inclined to listen (see #2).

And I get that lots of you guys got shat on by Clinton supporters and schadenfreude is fun and good but you're gonna need to convince the centrists to shut up and vote for your candidate too at some point. I agree with about 90% of what's said in this thread. I agree that there are systemic issues with the Democratic party as it is. But I think that these issues are systemic-and it's not just about Clinton.

NumberLast posted:

Were Bernie posters just way worse outside the Bernie thread than they were in it?

In addition, I don't mean to rehash the primary - especially on this forum - but I've been dying to understand why the Bernie thread moving super fast and having low to no content posts as a majority bothered people that wouldn't have even posted in it.

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

https://twitter.com/CoryBooker/status/797846660441378817

NumberLast posted:

Awe, I like Harry Potter and Steven Universe.

Segmentation Fault posted:

The guy who runs this patreon once made a satire video using clips from Glenn Beck's radio show set to Donald Duck, now he's crying about violence in video games

LinYutang posted:

bernie openly firing broadsides at the Dem establishment

iospace posted:

I think the state parties need the most help and they need it yesterday. Every second spent bickering is not helping them advance. If we can take a couple statehouses, snipe a few house seats, and keep the Senate below 60 for the GOP, we should be good for 2020

LinYutang posted:

bernie openly firing broadsides at the Dem establishment

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

simplistic good vs evil morality and every millenials read/seen them.

in bookers case hes probably trying to get some sweet millenial cred for his 2020 run since he was 26 when a childrens book called harry potter was released

NumberLast posted:

We have to come together in the face of Trump. Like a gem fusion we mustn't simply combine with one another, but be one another.

exmarx posted:

he sincerely does not know anything

NumberLast posted:

Awe, I like Harry Potter and Steven Universe.

Venom Snake posted:

bump_fn posted:

hey vs i know ur busy saving us all but if u could put together a post about how to get active and involved i na way that helps at some point i would seriously appreciate it. I've called people and am planning on crashing meetings but a digestible "here's what to do" would be seriously appreciated when you find the time

exmarx posted:

he sincerely does not know anything

Homeless Friend posted:

You just sound a bit retarded tbh. I mean lmao I poo poo on annoying Bernie posters like nobodies business but switching candidates? Pffft.

Clinton posters were just less self-righteous about being assholes. That's all.

Zikan posted:

he does, it just that the info he got from the campaign was so insanely bad it looked like he didn't

exmarx posted:

he's an inveterate liar with a well-connected dad lol

Dapper_Swindler posted:

this. its a show that makes sadbrains id politicos feel good watching it. plus it makes patrion money for wannabee hack critics. https://www.patreon.com/popdetective

Venom Snake posted:

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

exmarx posted:

he's an inveterate liar with a well-connected dad lol

Fidel Castronaut posted:

Fishmech was one guy who nobody liked. Tatum Girlpants, A Winner is Jew, Zoux, Deteriorata, and pals ran the democratic primary thread and jerked each other off by ganging up on people who liked Bernie, continuously straw manning the worst of Bernie supporters so that they never had to address reasonable criticisms of Hillary. They were by far the worse posters.

Some of them, like A Winner is Jew, have posted about the error of their ways but let's not bullshit about how the conversation went here.

Fidel Castronaut posted:

I mean, A Winner is Jew concern trolled the hell out of a woman complaining that Latinx Cinco de Mayo protesters outside a Hillary rally cussed in front of her kids. Then, they would turn around and accuse others of racism. It was unbelievable.