SUK ZONE: it's all a pointless exercise and you're just screaming into the void

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Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

venomsnake's connection to the democratic party adds up, i promise you, to working as a volunteer and handing out leaflets

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:03

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Lemming: Apr 21, 2008

bump_fn posted:

I don't really know what to do either but I checked my state's Democratic website (http://www.cadem.org/), then went to the county level site (http://acdems.org/) and saw they're having a meeting this Wednesday and I'm going to go there and agitate for Keith Ellison.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:03

Zikan: Feb 29, 2004

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/12/the-advertising-decisions-that-helped-doom-hillary-clinton/

quote:

In the closing weeks of the presidential race, Hillary Clinton's campaign � and the outside groups that supported it � aired more television advertisements in Omaha than in the states of Michigan and Wisconsin combined. The Omaha ads were in pursuit of a single electoral vote in a Nebraska congressional district, which Clinton did not ultimately win, and also bled into households in Iowa, which also she did not win. Michigan and Wisconsin add up to 26 electoral votes; she appears not to have won them, either.

Strategic decisions can make all the difference in a close race. Clinton lost the White House (despite winning the popular vote) to Republican Donald Trump on the strength of about 100,000 votes in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. That is the definition of a close race.

But a review of Democrats' advertising decisions at the end of the race suggests Clinton and her allies weren't playing to win a close one. They were playing for a blowout. And it cost them.

Clinton and the groups backing her aired three times as many ads as Trump and his supporters over the course of the general election, according to data from the Wesleyan Media Project. Despite that advantage, the Democrats left several key states essentially unprotected on the airwaves as the race came to a close.

[...]

The upside to that Democratic strategy was that it gave Clinton a lot of different avenues to get the additional 16 electoral votes she would have needed to win the race. But there were several downsides to it. For one, most of those avenues were long shots. Using public polling data, FiveThirtyEight.com calculated each state's likelihood of being the �tipping point� of the election � which is to say, the one that pushed the winner over 270 electoral votes. By its odds, both candidates were wise to invest in North Carolina (11.2 percent chance), Pennsylvania (12.3 percent) and Florida (17.6 percent). Arizona, on the other hand, had less than a 2 percent chance to tip the race. Georgia was about 2 percent. Iowa was a little over 1 percent. And Michigan, which Democrats basically ignored until the very last days of the race? Nearly a 12 percent chance. To be fair, massive ad spending still left Clinton short in Ohio, North Carolina, Florida and even Pennsylvania. But it appears that in divvying their ad budgets, Clinton and her allies forgot a simple rule of presidential elections: You don't need more than 270 electoral votes to win. By playing so aggressively for a blowout, Democrats allowed the Trump team to poach two of their must-win states. A swing of 50,000 voters from Trump to Clinton across Wisconsin, Michigan (which has still not been called, officially) and Pennsylvania would have tipped the race to Clinton. There's no guarantee that shifting pro-Clinton ads from Phoenix and Des Moines to Detroit, Milwaukee and Erie would have done the trick. But it might have.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:05

Zikan: Feb 29, 2004

Disinterested posted:

venomsnake's connection to the democratic party adds up, i promise you, to working as a volunteer and handing out leaflets

more impactful then mook and podesta and their entire data analysis team

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:05

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

Lemming posted:

I don't really know what to do either but I checked my state's Democratic website (http://www.cadem.org/), then went to the county level site (http://acdems.org/) and saw they're having a meeting this Wednesday and I'm going to go there and agitate for Keith Ellison.

ur good. the problem is i live in chicago so its a fuckni hot mess so im doing the best i can. but please loving agitate and go to meetings goony motherfuckers reading this thread

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:06

Sojenus: Dec 28, 2008

looking into events my state democrats are doing to see if i can show up and rabble rouse, and their calendar is dead

just like their party

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:09

Grondoth: Feb 18, 2011

NumberLast posted:

Awe, I like Harry Potter and Steven Universe.

It's OK to like things. It's even OK to draw a little bit of courage and inspiration from things that resonate with you. Just don't retreat into it and try to laboriously set up the fantasy situation as the real one.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:09

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

LinYutang posted:

bernie openly firing broadsides at the Dem establishment

Bad dems probably hoped Bernie would go away.

Instead due to Hillary and DNC face planting his message is now even more important.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:10

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

Sojenus posted:

looking into events my state democrats are doing to see if i can show up and rabble rouse, and their calendar is dead

just like their party

call the phone number and ask for a meeting

and bring everyone you know to the meeting

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:10

Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

VS decoder:

'working for the campaign' = volunteering handing out fliers
'involved in security policy' = handing out fliers in rotc uniform
'security expertise' = i once was in rotc

hth

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:10

Well What Now: Nov 10, 2016; by Fluffdaddy; Shredded Hen

Disinterested posted:

VS decoder:

'working for the campaign' = volunteering handing out fliers
'involved in security policy' = handing out fliers in rotc uniform
'security expertise' = i once was in rotc

hth

oic tysm

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:12

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

Bernie's book is out this month, hopefully it contains some practical info have to create a socialist paradise in the USA.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:12

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

Fidel Castronaut posted:

Fishmech was one guy who nobody liked. Tatum Girlpants, A Winner is Jew, Zoux, Deteriorata, and pals ran the democratic primary thread and jerked each other off by ganging up on people who liked Bernie, continuously straw manning the worst of Bernie supporters so that they never had to address reasonable criticisms of Hillary. They were by far the worse posters.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about em since they all hung out in the Hillary GE thread. Not surprising it was a sad shadow of the Trump thread. I guess I always kept a low profile and generally never butted head with retards too much.

I do miss defending Hillary and her fuckin weird love of Kissinger in the Hill Primary thread tho. fuckin lol at her insane love of him.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:13

Segmentation Fault: Jun 7, 2012

Well What Now posted:

oic tysm

Ou812

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:14

The Puppet Master: Apr 9, 2005; Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard.

I wonder how many toxxers have re-registered? How many were permaed?

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:15

Well What Now: Nov 10, 2016; by Fluffdaddy; Shredded Hen

I totally get why Hillary courted Hank Kissinger. She's a wonk and he's basically the Uberwonk Supreme with fries so his blessing is great for her even if she doesn't agree with him on things (and that's a debate that's totally not worth having ITT).

Kissinger also happens to be detestable slime, but he's Highly Esteemed Detestable Slime in the weird world of wonks.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:16

Well What Now: Nov 10, 2016; by Fluffdaddy; Shredded Hen

Segmentation Fault posted:

Ou812

EDIT AUTOEXEC.BAT

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:17

Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

is to

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:18

Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

Well What Now posted:

oic tysm

np yw

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:19

NumberLast: Jun 7, 2014

Well What Now posted:

I totally get why Hillary courted Hank Kissinger. She's a wonk and he's basically the Uberwonk Supreme with fries so his blessing is great for her even if she doesn't agree with him on things (and that's a debate that's totally not worth having ITT).

Kissinger also happens to be detestable slime, but he's Highly Esteemed Detestable Slime in the weird world of wonks.

A lot of the "Establishment" politicians (And many others...Looking at you, Warren) just don't even seem to question certain things on foreign policy. Primarily the super deplorable stuff.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:21

mrmcd: Feb 22, 2003; Pictured: The only good cop (a fictional one).

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

hes jonah ryan irl

He's not as bad as JR but yeah that email screenshot wasn't good. Lots of people in this forum could do with some outside time.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:22

Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6FXeupOp04

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:22

Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:23

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

Baloogan posted:

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The_Politics_Man: Aug 25, 2015

Baloogan posted:

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:24

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

Baloogan posted:

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:25

punk rebel ecks: Dec 11, 2010; A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Oh Snapple! posted:

my general description of both camps was that bernie folks would just outright call a person a dipshit and leave it and that and that the clinton folks would drag it out to 3 paragraphs minimum, while also throwing in at least one assertion of "racist" or "sexist"

This seems accurate.

During the primaries, I asked Zen Death Robot which camp he felt was worse. He ultimately said something along the lines of that he didn't believe that either side was "worse", just that he saw a bunch of annoying people. However, how they posted was different. He stated that Sanders supporters often just made brief disgruntled snip-its and were done with it. In contrast the Hillary camp would type out paragraphs as they tried to seem articulate, but their posts boiled down to being a bunch of stupid crap that could have been brief disgruntled snip-its.

NumberLast posted:

Were Bernie posters just way worse outside the Bernie thread than they were in it?

In addition, I don't mean to rehash the primary - especially on this forum - but I've been dying to understand why the Bernie thread moving super fast and having low to no content posts as a majority bothered people that wouldn't have even posted in it.

The primary had people on edge. Establishment Democrats were threatened by Bernie winning as he would be too radical for the American public and thus lose to the Republican Nominee. The Left Wing Goldwater so to speak. it was THE argument they always used.

The Sanders threads weren't even that bad. Hell, even Sanders4President wasn't that bad, yet it was painted like something that belonged at 8chan.

Fidel Castronaut posted:

I mean, A Winner is Jew concern trolled the hell out of a woman complaining that Latinx Cinco de Mayo protesters outside a Hillary rally cussed in front of her kids. Then, they would turn around and accuse others of racism. It was unbelievable.

AWJ is like the worst poster in this entire forum. He's tied with that one dude who always brings up Israel/Palestine all the time. Forgot his name.

punk rebel ecks has issued a correction as of 01:32 on Nov 14, 2016

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:25

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

https://twitter.com/CoryBooker/status/797846660441378817

people really need to stop acting like cory booker is good because he's not

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:26

Zikan: Feb 29, 2004

Darkman Fanpage posted:

people really need to stop acting like cory booker is good because he's not

no one thinks he is good except the deluded third way holdouts

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:27

Lawman 0: Aug 17, 2010

Sojenus posted:

looking into events my state democrats are doing to see if i can show up and rabble rouse, and their calendar is dead

just like their party

wow

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:27

Terror Sweat: Mar 15, 2009

Sheng-ji Yang posted:

https://twitter.com/CoryBooker/status/797846660441378817

https://twitter.com/CoryBooker/status/797836749326155776

lmao he quoted himself on an inspirational quote thing

what a piece of poo poo

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:28

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

cory could be good if someone talked to him and turned him around cause he's charismatic

someone who lives in in jersey schedule a meeting and talk to him pls

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:29

Grondoth: Feb 18, 2011

Terror Sweat posted:

https://twitter.com/CoryBooker/status/797836749326155776

lmao he quoted himself on an inspirational quote thing

what a piece of poo poo

"Man...

I'm really cool,

guys."
-Corey Booker, 2016

"Corey Booker is often times considered

a very inspirational politician."
-Corey Booker, 2016

"Corey Booker

2020."
-Corey Booker, 2016

Grondoth has issued a correction as of 01:32 on Nov 14, 2016

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:30

Zikan: Feb 29, 2004

bump_fn posted:

cory could be good if someone talked to him and turned him around cause he's charismatic

someone who lives in in jersey schedule a meeting and talk to him pls

*leans into mic*

:wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co7GpMks8UA

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:31

Oh Snapple!: Dec 27, 2005

punk rebel ecks posted:

Hell, even Sanders4President wasn't that bad, yet it was painted like something that belonged at 8chan.

tbf it probably did, but that's because it seemed to have been blatantly co-opted by the alt-right fucks as a means of stirring poo poo. they weren't the only people there, but they were prevalent enough to where they made an impact on perception of it and were probably a contributor the actual sanders-supporter mods choosing to close it down.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:32

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

Zikan posted:

*leans into mic*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co7GpMks8UA

I've watched this and i dont care. if he turns then he's ok. i will welcome anyone who is willing to come on board

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:32

Fidel Cuckstro: Jul 2, 2007

"As a politician, perhaps the best thing I can do is help, is being swell?" -Philosophy

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:33

Oh Snapple!: Dec 27, 2005

who was the poster who was obsessed with where else S4P folks posted because that was loving creepy

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:33

punk rebel ecks: Dec 11, 2010; A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Oh Snapple! posted:

tbf it probably did, but that's because it seemed to have been blatantly co-opted by the alt-right fucks as a means of stirring poo poo. they weren't the only people there, but they were prevalent enough to where they made an impact on perception of it and were probably a contributor the actual sanders-supporter mods choosing to close it down.

When I popped my head in there during the peak of the primaries it didn't seem that bad. There was some :tinfoil:

over Bill stopping people from voting or something, but that was the worst of it. Maybe it got worse after that?

Oh Snapple! posted:

who was the poster who was obsessed with where else S4P folks posted because that was loving creepy

Mitt Romney?

Zikan posted:

*leans into mic*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co7GpMks8UA

I love how he says he so much "for the people" yet all he did for Newark was like build a multi-million dollar stadium or something? That's what I heard at least.

punk rebel ecks has issued a correction as of 01:36 on Nov 14, 2016

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:34

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Fidel Castronaut: Dec 25, 2004; Houston, we're Havana problem.

Oh Snapple! posted:

who was the poster who was obsessed with where else S4P folks posted because that was loving creepy

I don't know if he was obsessed with other places they posted but Zoux spent a whole lot of time screenshotting r/S4P posts and posting them here. I get that we are all idiots wasting a lot of time on an internet forum but jeez.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 01:38

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