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Night10194 posted:Who does this motherfucker LIKE? Rich white men. And by white, he means Anglo Saxon.
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Night10194 posted:Who does this motherfucker LIKE? WASPs
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Better strategy: don't explain, just repeat " Bannon is a white supremacist, look it up.".
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Night10194 posted:Who does this motherfucker LIKE? Wasps, the same kind of creature that made Darwin stop believing in a just god.
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Reading some of those 60 Minutes quote, and holy poo poo, Trump just does not give a poo poo. I mean, in this case it's thankfully him doing actual good things, but still.
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Nov 14, 2016 03:36
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Condiv posted:or they can claim he's a white nationalist by tying him to trump, who's also a white nationalist Now, if only a majority of whites gave a poo poo about non-whites... that's what'll give Hillary the win, compassion for strangers they already think they're better than, and/or the cause of their problems! (Sorry, it's just that being facetious is my defense mechanism against a 7-2 GOP SCOTUS in the next four years...  )
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/8611/trump-campaign-chief-bannon-and-cohorts-rip-hank-berrien TL;DR -""I understand why Catholics want as many Hispanics in this country as possible, because the church is dying in this country, right?" "Paul Ryan is a Catholic in good standing. He’s rubbing his social-justice Catholicism in my nose every second”
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furiouskoala posted:Bannon is a great pick. The left is going to try to explain to the public (with a straight face, no less) that he is a white nationalist by trying to tie him to the alt-right, appealing to what his ex-wife said in divorce proceedings, and pointing out that he runs Breitbart. These will all fail and make the democrats look stupid to all but the most credulous or extreme leftists. Or, you know, you can just let the alt right describe itself: hxxp://www.dailystormer.com/a-normies-guide-to-the-alt-right/ "The core concept of the movement, upon which all else is based, is that Whites are undergoing an extermination, via mass immigration into White countries which was enabled by a corrosive liberal ideology of White self-hatred, and that the Jews are at the center of this agenda." Or maybe we should just go see how Stormfront feels about him: hxxps://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1172907/ "I agree that this is a good move. For the last six months now Breitbart articles have been reading like they were written by WNs. Finally, Trump gets smart enough to bring a national-populist on board. Hopefully now there will be less talk about ISIS and more talk about the economic destruction that the globalists have caused for mainstream America."
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Nov 14, 2016 03:38
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Condiv posted:you do realize even rural states have stuff like tech startups and the like right? like you are trying to pretend a wide swathe of america is a dead-end, but that's not the case at all. Tech startups start up because they are places where technical people can be drawn to. They sell to people in places where there are a lot of people. There are not enough tech startups or potential tech startups to keep the sub 15,000 towns in Kansas alive, let alone the whole US. There is a very real chance that the only way rural America works in the future (outside of towns that have a factory) is basic income, but that doesn't have enough dignity apparently and gently caress us stupid progressives for proposing it. Wealth comes from the god damned ground and if we don't understand that then we can bury our loving party there.
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This is reaching a point where I don't think we can wait for midterms to come. It is completely unacceptable to have a renowned white nationalist in any position of power in the white house, and fascism in Europe is definitely going to get a boost from this as well as hate crimes in the US. On top of that, he has control of all 3 branches and his cabinet is a nightmare whose priorities involve loving over the disenfranchised while benefiting the already rich and powerful. He's making threats towards free press (and the most watched ones seem to be falling in line), and will completely gently caress over the environment which will snowball into a global catastrophe but the massive refugee crisis that would ensue would spike xenophobia levels so high that fascists would still stay in power no matter what. Is there anything I can do before he takes office to put a stop to this poo poo? This will be irretrievable.
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Koalas March posted:I hate that our first black president has to handhold the guy who has been lobbing racist attacks at him for almost a decade. yeah, kinda wish he could tell him to deal with it too Condiv fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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yellowyams posted:This is reaching a point where I don't think we can wait for midterms to come. It is completely unacceptable to have a renowned white nationalist in any position of power in the white house, and fascism in Europe is definitely going to get a boost from this as well as hate crimes in the US. On top of that, he has control of all 3 branches and his cabinet is a nightmare whose priorities involve loving over the disenfranchised while benefiting the already rich and powerful. He's making threats towards free press (and the most watched ones seem to be falling in line), and will completely gently caress over the environment which will snowball into a global catastrophe but the massive refugee crisis that would ensue would spike xenophobia levels so high that fascists would still stay in power no matter what. Is there anything I can do before he takes office to put a stop to this poo poo? This will be irretrievable. You can attempt to hunt down members of the electoral college in states that Trump won and use a rubber hose to persuade them to vote for Trump. That's about it.
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zegermans posted:Its worth noting that Bannon is pretty anti-catholic, too, and had several rants on his Sirius/XM show about how Paul Ryan was a bad person because he was forcing "his catholic social justice" down America's throats. Didn't most Catholics vote for Donnie. gently caress them. *is culturally Catholic, therefore it's okay for me to say that*
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Rural towns and neighborhoods would be benefitted by high speed rail and fiber internet services . You'd probably have more start ups and people moving to smaller towns if you could get on a train and get to the city in 30 minutes. Not having high speed rail and ease of mobility only by car loving destroys towns. I'd move to bumfuck nowhere and live in a heart beat if I could catch a train to the city in 30 minutes.
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Nov 14, 2016 03:51
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Gobbeldygook posted:Just a PSA, if you threaten to kill the president on this forum the Secret Service will visit Lowtax who will permaban you. I don't think I ever implied a physical threat, is that the only way? My friend is telling me that Senate has to approve all his choices, how likely are they to talk him out of this if enough people contact them?
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Steve Bannon is a banker of the caliber Trump accused Clinton and others of befriending in his #draintheswamp stump speeches. He is also a white supremacist. Neither of these facts are debatable. He is Trump's strategist. Would any third party voters or Trump supporters care to comment?
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Potato Salad posted:Steve Bannon is a banker of the caliber Trump accused Clinton and others of befriending in his #draintheswamp stump speeches. He is also a white supremacist. I hadn't heard the white supremacist thing where'd you get that from.
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So I applied to work for the Trump administration. I'm wondering if I receive an appointment would it be a good idea to take it? I plan to apply to graduate schools, but would this totally gently caress my resume to have Trump Administration on my resume?
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Nov 14, 2016 03:55
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Kilroy posted:Basic income would work but it's not going to fly because people perceive it leaves them at the mercy of the state and makes them weak. They don't view their vote as an exercise of power and frankly who can blame anybody for that? A socialism where the people who work at a business, by law, receive an ownership stake in that business would go a long way toward giving people that empowerment but it's going to be a tough sell. The issue is that even if that is passed you own a piece of a dying business (if it's in a rural town). You still need to send money into those economies to keep them. I don't have a problem with doing that, but it's not efficient and the people who need it don't want it because they would rather starve in a dignified manner or whatever.
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Things will not be irreparably awful. We'll be ok, it's just going to be longer term process than we had hoped. I know how easy it is to be really down right now because I'm there too, but progress is not always smoothly linear. Well have a dip but we'll come out of It.
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Nov 14, 2016 03:57
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Gobbeldygook posted:There's a 55% chance one of the liberal justices will die in the next four years. There's a 12% chance that two will die, or 1 in 8. There's a 99% chance that Hillary wins the election! 
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clam the gently caress down posted:So I applied to work for the Trump administration. I'm wondering if I receive an appointment would it be a good idea to take it? I plan to apply to graduate schools, but would this totally gently caress my resume to have Trump Administration on my resume? And so it begins.
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Nov 14, 2016 03:59
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Hollismason posted:I hadn't heard the white supremacist thing where'd you get that from. The most direct evidence is from his divorce when his ex stated that he didn't want his kids attending school with a bunch of Jews. More indirect evidence: the entire existence of breitbart.com.
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zegermans posted:The most direct evidence is from his divorce when his ex stated that he didn't want his kids attending school with a bunch of Jews. More indirect evidence: the entire existence of breitbart.com. You mean that place that isn't afraid to tell it like it is???? Seems like you are the racist good sir!!!
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Nov 14, 2016 04:00
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yellowyams posted:I don't think I ever implied a physical threat, is that the only way? My friend is telling me that Senate has to approve all his choices, how likely are they to talk him out of this if enough people contact them?
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Lessail posted:You mean that place that isn't afraid to tell it like it is???? Seems like you are the racist good sir!!! pls no I deal enough with that poo poo at work "you hear what the friend of the family president said?!" "dude why are you so racist" "how is that racist?"
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Hollismason posted:I hadn't heard the white supremacist thing where'd you get that from. I will leave this to you, if you care to find out. We are past a point where spoonfeeding information would have helped anyone. There has been essentially a year of this. Read for yourself, and challenge me with passages if you would like to contest this.
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zegermans posted:The most direct evidence is from his divorce when his ex stated that he didn't want his kids attending school with a bunch of Jews. More indirect evidence: the entire existence of breitbart.com. Or you can just put "site:stormfront.org Steve Bannon" in google and click through the praise. After all, when one white nationalist lauds another white nationalist, it makes it kinda hard to say they aren't a white nationalist.
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Hollismason posted:Rural towns and neighborhoods would be benefitted by high speed rail and fiber internet services . You'd probably have more start ups and people moving to smaller towns if you could get on a train and get to the city in 30 minutes. there's way too many small towns in america for rail to be a viable option. any place where you can commute in less than an hour by train is already adequately served by car. on the other hand, there's plenty of places that are outside of reasonable commuting distance from a viable metro - much of eastern kentucky, southeast ohio, huge chunks of the midwest prarie states - places where rural poverty is already an endemic problem. short of teleportation these places are going to continue to decay boner confessor fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Potato Salad posted:I will leave this to you, if you care to find out. That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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Prester Jane posted:
Depressingly I must agree, I've resigned myself to the fact that I won't survive the next four years. I just hope they make it quick so we don't suffer. Shimrra Jamaane posted:Things will not be irreparably awful. We'll be ok, it's just going to be longer term process than we had hoped. I know how easy it is to be really down right now because I'm there too, but progress is not always smoothly linear. Well have a dip but we'll come out of It. Nah, it's over for minorities in America. If I had the courage I would just kill myself now, but I'm a wuss. Gynocentric Regime fucked around with this message at 04:14 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Things will not be irreparably awful. We'll be ok, it's just going to be longer term process than we had hoped. I know how easy it is to be really down right now because I'm there too, but progress is not always smoothly linear. Well have a dip but we'll come out of It. lol they're getting rid of medicare and climate change is going to destroy us all you loving moron
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King of Solomon posted:Sure, but they will need to replace Kennedy or one of the liberals to do it, and that's not a guarantee. I asked in one of the threads after the election if SC justices get Secret Service protection because I could see Trump talking about "second amendment solutions" again if they block something and he gets questioned on it.
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boner confessor posted:there's way too many small towns in america for rail to be a viable option Why not? Do what the Japanese and Chinese did, high speed rails for major hubs and cities, that then branch off to normal rails for mid sized towns, then for tram systems for small towns.
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boner confessor posted:there's way too many small towns in america for rail to be a viable option. any place where you can commute in less than an hour by train is already adequately served by car. on the other hand, there's plenty of places that are outside of reasonable commuting distance from a viable metro - much of eastern kentucky, southeast ohio, huge chunks of the midwest prarie states - places where rural poverty is already an endemic problem. short of teleportation these places are going to continue to decay I think that, ideally, a fully-fleged not half-aborted passenger rail system like we have now would be supported by other methods of mass transportation. Like buses, or light rail/trams. But maybe I've just spent too much time playing SimCity and the like. Life isn't Will Wright's libertarian fantasy and the political will to allow poor people to easily move around the country via mass transit just doesn't seem to be there.
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Al-Saqr posted:Why not? Do what the Japanese and Chinese did, high speed rails for major hubs and cities, that then branch off to normal rails for mid sized towns, then for tram systems for small towns. To be honest, I don't see rail travel being viable to cities under 200k or so in the US, partly because our culture (and infrastructure) is just so devoted to cars.
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Al-Saqr posted:Why not? Do what the Japanese and Chinese did, high speed rails for major hubs and cities, that then branch off to normal rails for mid sized towns, then for tram systems for small towns. funding is a huge issue here - who will pay for it? japan is a bad example, most of postwar urban japan was rebuilt as a value capture scheme where rail companies worked in close concert with, and often acted as, land developers themselves - tightly interweaving rail with the urban fabric. this works great but it's super hard to graft viable rail across already extant land use patterns. china dealt with this by throwing huge amounts of central government resources at the problem and using very muscular eminent domain rights, and even then there are huge swathes of china where there is no rail access knitting together extant land use patterns across multiple jurisdictions is a very difficult problem for the united states to tackle, for a number of reasons - jurisdictional fragmentation, the 10th amendment (the federal government basically has no business in intra-state infrastructure), lack of any kind of dedicated funding mechanism, extant infrastructure which preferences automotive travel modes, etc. so on. it's a very tricky problem from the standpoint of politics, governance, and funding - problems that have nothing to do with the technology being employed. i dont have time to write a book of a post right now but trust me if it were easy you'd see more rail in america, today, already having existed for decades
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spacetoaster posted:That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. That is correct. I will do no work for anyone on matters of human rights and sedition / free speech here from here on out. We are far beyond a point, I think, where spoonfeeding will change minds. It will only come across as something to contest, but something to discover. I say this as a reformed white supremacist from my youth and teenage years. If this matters to you, read. If you do not already expose yourself to a balance of sources capable of revealing this to you, the post of one goon will not save your soul. If, however, you find not only what I refer to but a site that posts good information along the way, you will not have only caught your meal but learned to fish as well.
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boner confessor posted:there's way too many small towns in america for rail to be a viable option. any place where you can commute in less than an hour by train is already adequately served by car. on the other hand, there's plenty of places that are outside of reasonable commuting distance from a viable metro - much of eastern kentucky, southeast ohio, huge chunks of the midwest prarie states - places where rural poverty is already an endemic problem. short of teleportation these places are going to continue to decay Everyone does this thing where they take this maximalist approach to rail like if it doesn't reach some bumfuck dead farming outpost in Idaho then we may as well not even bother. Take a look at where most people live. Put rail between those places. Rail doesn't reach absolutely everywhere even in countries that have good rail systems. Also, good rail systems draw people to them. Lots of towns/cities in America exist precisely because the interstate went through and a community popped up near it. So you don't need to connect absolutely every existing place to the rail system. You just need to connect the places most people live and the ones who wish to get a piece of the prosperity will migrate closer naturally.
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Hollismason posted:Rural towns and neighborhoods would be benefitted by high speed rail and fiber internet services . You'd probably have more start ups and people moving to smaller towns if you could get on a train and get to the city in 30 minutes.
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