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Fireside Nut
Feb 10, 2010

turp



My man, the Donald scores!

E:D BALLS

Fireside Nut fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Nov 14, 2016

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tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Yeah I missed responding to the post but someone said "raising min wage wont make these people happy, they want "good" jobs they can be proud of." Which is bullshit because a job is bad when it's under valued. People who get upset that others would be paid as much as them with min increase (like famous forums user Volkerball) are jackasses. They need people below them to feel good. A "good" job is a job well done. Im proud of my lovely goodwill job because I'm skilled at it and know it. I just want to afford a drat home. And I at least would like to think people are more concerned with their own means than being better than those fukkin burger flippers

I think the point was that raising minimum wage won't make a person happy if the working class job they used to have is gone. They want to use the skills they used to use. Raising minimum wage isn't a talking point that resonates with people who look down on minimum or less-than-living wage workers even if they're presently out of a job because we're a serf nation.

Astroclassicist
Aug 21, 2015

iospace posted:

Speaking of people like Bill Kristol and Rick Wilson:
https://twitter.com/wrmead/status/798157653545545728
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/798157789906477056
How long is David Frum going to last before saying gently caress the GOP entirely or going over to Trump's side?

Frum ain't going to bend the knee.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Serf posted:

economic bondage revolves around the rich telling the poor that they at least have it better than those other, slightly poorer people. these divisions are completely artificial, you're either a have or a have-not, as the gap between the super-rich and the rest of us is so immense that labels like "the middle class" are laughable lies meant to keep us complacent with our lot in life

The distance between the middle class and rich has gotten huge because Tech and Finance generates essentially infinite wealth. So you have a group of people reinvesting again and again to make the numbers go higher without any of that wealth actually DOING anything. The end result is a fat jackass like notch sitting in his candy mansion doing nothing with his money except burning it on stupid poo poo.


Hello i am a tech company worth hundreds of millions or billions of dollars but i only employ like 100 people and i pay them only slightly more than enough to make rent.

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

Yeah I missed responding to the post but someone said "raising min wage wont make these people happy, they want "good" jobs they can be proud of." Which is bullshit because a job is bad when it's under valued. People who get upset that others would be paid as much as them with min increase (like famous forums user Volkerball) are jackasses. They need people below them to feel good. A "good" job is a job well done. Im proud of my lovely goodwill job because I'm skilled at it and know it. I just want to afford a drat home. And I at least would like to think people are more concerned with their own means than being better than those fukkin burger flippers

I love buckets of crabs, do you?

Also, if you want an entire list dunking on "OH, MINIMUM WAGE IS JUUUUUUUUUUST FINE", here you go:
http://kitchenette.jezebel.com/heres-how-every-argument-against-a-minimum-wage-hike-is-1728874042

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Epic High Five posted:

I informed my /pol/ fiend Trumpist buddy about the Reince thing and he is FURIOUS

No single thing will dislodge their love of Donald of course, but it's starting to kind of wear down on them having a new knee-bending-to-GOPe event every single day since the election with no end in sight

yea it's super lame. I'm gonna throw a tantrum if ivanka isn't in the cabinet somewhere. I voted for nepotism damnit all

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
still lmao, Trump delegitimized his own win within a week

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


Venom Snake posted:

The distance between the middle class and rich has gotten huge because Tech and Finance generates essentially infinite wealth. So you have a group of people reinvesting again and again to make the numbers go higher without any of that wealth actually DOING anything. The end result is a fat jackass like notch sitting in his candy mansion doing nothing with his money except burning it on stupid poo poo.


Hello i am a tech company worth hundreds of millions or billions of dollars but i only employ like 100 people and i pay them only slightly more than enough to make rent.

And not a single employee thinks of unionizing. Ever. Because ~reasons~.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Homeless Friend posted:

still lmao, Trump delegitimized his own win within a week
I'm going to rate this... nothing matters.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

Venom Snake posted:

The distance between the middle class and rich has gotten huge because Tech and Finance generates essentially infinite wealth. So you have a group of people reinvesting again and again to make the numbers go higher without any of that wealth actually DOING anything. The end result is a fat jackass like notch sitting in his candy mansion doing nothing with his money except burning it on stupid poo poo.


Hello i am a tech company worth hundreds of millions or billions of dollars but i only employ like 100 people and i pay them only slightly more than enough to make rent.

Or I pay them enough to be in upper-middle class tax brackets but there's literally no reason for me to add any jobs ever because tech startups and finance companies exist only to make tons of money for a small amount of people, not to create anything of real value for society.

Next-Gen
Sep 22, 2004

Ted Nugent is the next generation in Joint Combat soldiers



trump is going to keep being trump and basically invalidate 90% of what he promised because they were all just cons to lure saps in

if someone supported him based on his beliefs on money and foreign policy they will be pleased

but literally anything about #draintheswamp or #hillaryforprison or any other adversarial position he took was a big fuckin honeypot

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/798154612888829952

Serf
May 5, 2011


tadashi posted:

I think the point was that raising minimum wage won't make a person happy if the working class job they used to have is gone. They want to use the skills they used to use. Raising minimum wage isn't a talking point that resonates with people who look down on minimum or less-than-living wage workers even if they're presently out of a job because we're a serf nation.

the answer is to provide these people with jobs that serve their skillsets and provide them with work that allows them to pay their bills and have excess cash to inject back into the economy


Venom Snake posted:

The distance between the middle class and rich has gotten huge because Tech and Finance generates essentially infinite wealth. So you have a group of people reinvesting again and again to make the numbers go higher without any of that wealth actually DOING anything. The end result is a fat jackass like notch sitting in his candy mansion doing nothing with his money except burning it on stupid poo poo.


Hello i am a tech company worth hundreds of millions or billions of dollars but i only employ like 100 people and i pay them only slightly more than enough to make rent.

the corporation is antithetical to life in every form. in a relentless effort to enrich those at the top, they feel no remorse for the people they exploit or the resources they consume or destroy in order to propel wealth upwards

shackle the corporations

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Next-Gen posted:

trump is going to keep being trump and basically invalidate 90% of what he promised because they were all just cons to lure saps in

if someone supported him based on his beliefs on money and foreign policy they will be pleased

but literally anything about #draintheswamp or #hillaryforprison or any other adversarial position he took was a big fuckin honeypot

We just elected a president with zero views, essentially. Shadow President Pence is going to have a lot of work to do.


I gots me some blood magic to fuel.

Next-Gen
Sep 22, 2004

Ted Nugent is the next generation in Joint Combat soldiers



Nichael posted:

We just elected a president with zero views, essentially. Shadow President Pence is going to have a lot of work to do.

trump has views but they filter out of his consciousness within about 5 minutes

they may flitter back in but he is a giant hot-take machine

TotalHell
Feb 22, 2005

Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.



god drat, you didn't know, Bill? Get in on this dude we're trying to summon a horde of bees and locusts

Serf
May 5, 2011


the key problem here is in the american lie that "anyone can make it"

statistically speaking, no, hard work and dedication will afford you a passable life but will never push you into the upper echelons of society nor give you true fulfillment. we have fooled people into thinking that the can "make it" for so long that they will vote for tax cuts on the rich because they sincerely believe that they will benefit from those cuts one day when they "make it"

and then they die, never questioning things, bitter at themselves for not doing enough to "make it"

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Next-Gen posted:

trump has views but they filter out of his consciousness within about 5 minutes

they may flitter back in but he is a giant hot-take machine
If Donald was in a room alone with me for five minutes, and we talked, he'd come out of that room with the views of a 20 something socialist. If a Nazi talks to him for five minutes, he'll be a Nazi. He's a loving blank canvas, and he's surrounded himself with Thomas Kinkades.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

tadashi posted:

I think the point was that raising minimum wage won't make a person happy if the working class job they used to have is gone. They want to use the skills they used to use. Raising minimum wage isn't a talking point that resonates with people who look down on minimum or less-than-living wage workers even if they're presently out of a job because we're a serf nation.

I am of the point they will be happy with using the skills of their new job if that job is correctly valued. I doubt people bitches about working a grocery store in the 50s when you could raise a family solo on it.

velvet milkman
Feb 13, 2012

by R. Guyovich

hail satan if true

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

trump already want out lol

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

😈

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
blood magic

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003


Thing Another Candidate Would Be Perennially Infamous For Saying #G-43753

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


checked in at D&D because for a moment there it looked like we had reached critical danger status and there was a real risk of learning something

fortunately cooler heads prevailed and they identified the real culprits: white brogressives, brocialists and Berniebros.

crisis averted

limp dick calvin
Sep 1, 2006

Strepitoso. Vedete? Una meraviglia.

Getting close to blood libel, nice

Vitamin Me
Mar 30, 2007


Let's accelerate all the way into the dark ages

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Next-Gen posted:

trump is going to keep being trump and basically invalidate 90% of what he promised because they were all just cons to lure saps in

if someone supported him based on his beliefs on money and foreign policy they will be pleased

but literally anything about #draintheswamp or #hillaryforprison or any other adversarial position he took was a big fuckin honeypot

I for one am excited to watch the inverse reverse double meltdown on the far right when Trump decides likability is King and proceeds to do dick-all from his agenda.

Or, on the other hand, I hope the corporation that buys my family at least has a cool name so I don't end up being John Autozone.

Serf
May 5, 2011


DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

checked in at D&D because for a moment there it looked like we had reached critical danger status and there was a real risk of learning something

fortunately cooler heads prevailed and they identified the real culprits: white brogressives, brocialists and Berniebros.

crisis averted

I see that C-SPAM will have to lead the revolution

D&D posters will be the first against the wall

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

tadashi posted:

Or I pay them enough to be in upper-middle class tax brackets but there's literally no reason for me to add any jobs ever because tech startups and finance companies exist only to make tons of money for a small amount of people, not to create anything of real value for society.

When the goal is making numbers go up instead of making something someone wants thats where poo poo gets bad. Of course how dumb this is is only compounded by the fact it's aggressively easy to reach that point were it's physically impossible to actually spend as much as you make.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Serf posted:

I see that C-SPAM will have to lead the revolution

D&D posters will be the first against the wall

We should really refrain from making our firing squads circular. Surely, there is something we can do to enlighten our D&D brethren?

Venom Snake posted:

When the goal is making numbers go up instead of making something someone wants thats where poo poo gets bad. Of course how dumb this is is only compounded by the fact it's aggressively easy to reach that point were it's physically impossible to actually spend as much as you make.
Notch is a human and he's comin' for your candy. I'm sure he'll spend loads more on candy walls.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

Nichael posted:

We should really refrain from making our firing squads circular. Surely, there is something we can do to enlighten our D&D brethren?



Sorry, we are all on this river together and there are no oars.



We can only hope that the water dries up before we're on fire.

Serf
May 5, 2011


why is anyone still making predictions, lol

we just spent the last year+ being the wrongest anyone has ever been, and corncobs are unable to predict poo poo

only death is certain


Nichael posted:

We should really refrain from making our firing squads circular. Surely, there is something we can do to enlighten our D&D brethren?

I'm open to suggestions

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


https://twitter.com/peterwsinger/status/798160558830678016
https://twitter.com/speechboy71/status/798161393723777024

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Serf posted:

why is anyone still making predictions, lol

we just spent the last year+ being the wrongest anyone has ever been, and corncobs are unable to predict poo poo

only death is certain
Literally every prediction I made about 2016 was wrong. I'm just posting that to remind myself of this.


"Bomb the poo poo out of them"

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Bernie has gotten more press in the last week than he got through the whole primary lmao

Though it looks like part of it is just reporters asking him whether it was more his fault or Comey's that yaaas queen lost

Equeen
Oct 29, 2011

Pole dance~

I-I what?! :psyboom:

Good job undermining your win, you Cheeto covered turd.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Lord of Pie posted:

Bernie has gotten more press in the last week than he got through the whole primary lmao

Though it looks like part of it is just reporters asking him whether it was more his fault or Comey's that yaaas queen lost
Which Broad City episode is more unwatchable in the wake of 2016? The one that originated "yaaas queen" or the one that Clinton cameoed on?

Korelle
Sep 18, 2010

"Bomb the red part into a healthy radioactive glow. Next!"

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Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Nichael posted:

Which Broad City episode is more unwatchable in the wake of 2016? The one that originated "yaaas queen" or the one that Clinton cameoed on?

Trick question, it's all of them

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