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KataraniSword posted:I think Sprite just meant "there's more reasons for 5* Spellblade than Tornado Strike, soon". Yeah this is what I meant. Lechtansi posted:Ok, so if I do use Faris, she won't have BSB access right away since I need shout and SS2 first turn. Is full break ok to wait for until halfway through the fight? Yeah, sure. Feel free to put full break on ramza until faris gets the goods to go on her bsb. Hell, it'll be harder to reapply full break in a timely basis since it's effect is done by her initial attack and not the commands anyway. Eventually you should get two start witha single sb charge record materias. One from cloud and one from tyro.
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Sprite141 posted:Eventually you should get two start witha single sb charge record materias. One from cloud and one from tyro. Lechtansi posted:shout and SS2 first turn
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Nov 14, 2016 19:07
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The Kain event, then Onion Knight time. I've got 62 Major Growth Eggs ready for that boy. 
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Hahahah! Get hosed Omega v2! Overture had 15/20 Augment, Ragnarok 24/30  RW: Varance's Ashe. loving 3k+ damage per hit with the RW, 6k+ with each Attack command.  to wreck this robotic oval office after countless S/Ls
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between halting rumba and stop, he never had a turn
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Snazzy Frocks posted:between halting rumba and stop, he never had a turn It got off one turn for me when a couple Stops failed to proc, but by that point it had like 5% health left anyway so one more burst command finished him off. Very easy fight compared to the first time around.
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Nov 14, 2016 20:29
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Does Halting Rumba have a better chance to proc / enough added utility in other fights to bother crafting it over a second copy of Stop? Stop is way cheaper since it doesn't need any major orbs at all, but I'm not sure if having access to an AoE stop effect is worth the extra investment or not.
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The advantages of Halting Rumba over Stop are exactly that, that it's an AoE and that it's part of the Dancer skillset (more common for physical-focused characters) instead of Black Magic. In particular, the Tonberries from the first Celerity Nightmare are much easier to deal with by employing HR. Otherwise they both have the same proc chance of 70%.
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Nov 14, 2016 21:14
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Does Halting Rumba have a better chance to proc / enough added utility in other fights to bother crafting it over a second copy of Stop? Stop is way cheaper since it doesn't need any major orbs at all, but I'm not sure if having access to an AoE stop effect is worth the extra investment or not. For this fight the Primary advantage to it is that Dances are not Magic and thus aren't subject to reflect.
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Nov 14, 2016 21:46
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LornMarkus posted:For this fight the Primary advantage to it is that Dances are not Magic and thus aren't subject to reflect. I think dances are still magic but aoe spells aren't subject to reflect.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:ideally, he never gets to cast reflect ideally i never have to s/l Halting Rumba is a good skill. for Omega i had Penelo use it at R3 and that was more stop than i needed RagnarokAngel posted:I think dances are still magic but aoe spells aren't subject to reflect. dances are NAT
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Nov 14, 2016 22:06
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Snazzy Frocks posted:ideally, he never gets to cast reflect Alright, where'd I get this idea? Most likely I was thinking of Calofisteri from DU26, who's another FF5 boss that actually does have such a condition. 
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Lechtansi posted:I'm a day 1 player, so I have both mug bloodlust and thiefs revenge. I haven't honed either of them, I could probably hone thiefs. Our A-Teams are really similar! My usual build is Butts with Light of the Four, Faris with Beryl Serpent and Mako Might, Agrias with Cleansing Strike, Yuna with Miracle Veil and Ace Striker, and a flex slot that usually just goes to Celes with Indomitable Blade. I have SS2 and SG but when you're running Cleansing Strike + Beryl Serpent, Wall is almost always overkill on any single-target boss. I RW shout, even on Ult++ fights. Just stick Lifesiphon and Protect/Shellga on Agrias.
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mastery conditions are land stop, use lightning, and reduce attack i didn't use any mitigation because i was counting on him not doing anything but flash, which was exactly what happened
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Snazzy Frocks posted:ideally, he never gets to cast reflect That is true, but unless you want to s/l multiples times because he woke up for just a second, cast Reflect on himself and now you've probably hit yourself with Stop it's best to have options. Personally I went full back-up kit: kept Shell up in case he got off an attack and brought Dispel for if he cast Reflect, had Stop and Halting Rumba. In the end the run that did beat him saw him stay constantly Stopped for the entire fight but it took multiple tries before I got that lucky.
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i had around 650 MND on my stop users so he was stuck regardless of a few misses
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I hit him with Halting Rumba on Yuffie for a hundredth of a second and then blew him the gently caress up with my two mages because Ashe's BSB commands go through reflect. I also brought Edward for his Haste+Faith-ga ans Y'shtola for SS2 and Esuna so Edward could land full break so I could get full mastery.
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Does anybody know if U++ Atlas' physical attacks respect Draw Fire/Retaliate mechanics? Being able to take care of both its counters and the attacks that cause Sap seems like it would make that fight a lot easier.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:i had around 650 MND on my stop users so he was stuck regardless of a few misses Yeah, I'm speaking as someone who could barely field about 350+ Mind on two healers.
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Grozz Nuy posted:Does anybody know if U++ Atlas' physical attacks respect Draw Fire/Retaliate mechanics? Being able to take care of both its counters and the attacks that cause Sap seems like it would make that fight a lot easier. NGDBSS fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Thanks for the heads up on the Ashe BSB RW, made Omega into a joke. Kinda regret crafting Halting Rumba though, since Selphie with R3 stop was enough to keep him locked down for the entire fight and the one time I used Rumba (through Tyro) he broke out of it like half a second later, vs. Stop lasting like 10 seconds in his first phase. He did wake up once in his second phase and Flamethrower everyone for 5k damage, which brought the entire party to critical status, but thankfully none of my Stops missed and I got him shut down and used Garnet's BSB to finish him off since my RWed BSBs wore off just a touch too early. Oh well, Rumba will be useful later and it's not like it was an expensive skill, all told. I think I just need to dive Tyro because so far he just sucks rear end at every single thing and is basically useless unless I need some weird skill combo that literally nobody else can do. Doesn't help that I can't get any of his relics for the life of me. I'm really tempted to pull on Keeper's Choice 2 for Sentinel's Grimoire, but there's such a huge chance of getting dupes. I've already got Platinum Sword, 2 Masamunes, Shear Trigger, and Bartz' Excalibur, so that's like 75% of the good stuff.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Thanks for the heads up on the Ashe BSB RW, made Omega into a joke. Kinda regret crafting Halting Rumba though, since Selphie with R3 stop was enough to keep him locked down for the entire fight and the one time I used Rumba (through Tyro) he broke out of it like half a second later, vs. Stop lasting like 10 seconds in his first phase. He did wake up once in his second phase and Flamethrower everyone for 5k damage, which brought the entire party to critical status, but thankfully none of my Stops missed and I got him shut down and used Garnet's BSB to finish him off since my RWed BSBs wore off just a touch too early. Yeah, the Rumba being terrible there was one hundred percent it being on Tyro. I initially tried using it on Yuffie myself and had the same problem. Then I switched to Lenna who I could get a high mind total on and it worked much better. As for Sentinel Grimoire, I believe you'll probably be better served waiting for OSBFest. If the banners don't shift too much it should be on the same banner as Tidus's OSB and BSB, which I don't recall you saying you had either of.
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LornMarkus posted:Yeah, the Rumba being terrible there was one hundred percent it being on Tyro. I initially tried using it on Yuffie myself and had the same problem. Then I switched to Lenna who I could get a high mind total on and it worked much better. As for Sentinel Grimoire, I believe you'll probably be better served waiting for OSBFest. If the banners don't shift too much it should be on the same banner as Tidus's OSB and BSB, which I don't recall you saying you had either of. Ah, nice! Yeah I don't have anything for Tidus, so that would be a good banner since I already leveled him up for his RMs anyway.
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Guys. I'm down to one randomly obtained Record Materia, Josef's. I want to get these over and done with before Pokémon comes out, so I'm working on it today. Getting 4 out of 5 is pretty nice (including Noel), but if I could get this last one it'd be just awesome. Wish me luck. EDIT: Literally two minutes later I get it. Done!
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the difference between a high- and low-mind caster using rumba/stop is night and day. if you're -250 mind from the target it almost doesn't have a duration at all this is also why Shadowbind is so underwhelming - getting a significant amount of both mind and attack on a Cel4 character isn't easy.
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Grozz Nuy posted:Does anybody know if U++ Atlas' physical attacks respect Draw Fire/Retaliate mechanics? Being able to take care of both its counters and the attacks that cause Sap seems like it would make that fight a lot easier. (from my JP version guide on Reddit, linked to in the main Time's Arrow megathread) quote:Moveset (Default: >80% HP):
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Alxprit posted:Guys. I'm down to one randomly obtained Record Materia, Josef's. I want to get these over and done with before Pokémon comes out, so I'm working on it today. Getting 4 out of 5 is pretty nice (including Noel), but if I could get this last one it'd be just awesome. Wish me luck. Nice. The stupid core characters refuse to drop theirs. I've been dragging around Black Mage and Bard through every event stage up to the bonus battles for months now trying to get theirs, PLUS being in my Mondaily lineup. Now I've got White Mage and Monk to deal with too (plus Larsa and Noel and Guy). Just drop your stupid RMs, you worthless sacks of core crap!
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Ah, nice! Yeah I don't have anything for Tidus, so that would be a good banner since I already leveled him up for his RMs anyway. Yeah, don't remember where the nice picture of it is but (assuming they don't shuffle anything) the full Banner would be: Tidus OSB, Zidane BSB, Faris BSB, Tidus BSB, Freya's Six Dragons, Garnet's Divine Guardian, Rosa's Divine Heal, Leon's Darkborn Blade and Sentinel Grimoire.
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Schwartzcough posted:Nice. The stupid core characters refuse to drop theirs. I've been dragging around Black Mage and Bard through every event stage up to the bonus battles for months now trying to get theirs, PLUS being in my Mondaily lineup. Now I've got White Mage and Monk to deal with too (plus Larsa and Noel and Guy). Just drop your stupid RMs, you worthless sacks of core crap!
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:If it helps, white mage's RM3 is literally the exact same thing as Vanille's Pulse Kindness, so you can safely skip it Skip it? You don't understand the completionist crowd here, do you?
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I've noticed FFRK has severely corrected for Tauntilate with PHY type attacks that can't be countered. I wonder if we'll soon see indirect nerfs to RW BSB tactics because they are way too useful once you start gaming the friends list. I doubt DENA expected databases of friends codes. Probably it'll end up something like if you summon a RW it triggers a counter for the U+ and above fights
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Thundercracker posted:I've noticed FFRK has severely corrected for Tauntilate with PHY type attacks that can't be countered. Actually the nerf has been that the vast majority of high end fights are deadly mostly from powerful AOE magic. And more recently they've been leaning on piercing AOEs, both physical and magical, to get around the supremacy of walls. Hell, the most recent FFIII event in JP had a Xande U+ where he used an 800% Piercing Meteor and it was brutal.
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What ability should I bring on Tidus (with Leap & Rush SB and Full Charge)? I've been bringing Powerchain to use before the first L&R cast but I'm wondering if there is a better option
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Grrr, the only thing holding me back from trouncing the Cid Mission is a decent medica. Shared ain't gonna cut it here and I need all damage on deck to break those orbs. Stupid AoE-spamming rear end in a top hat. *grumble*
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I'm glad I one-shot the U+, if I had to listen to that insanely bad rap one more time... e: The U++ is a loving jerk "oh did you just apply hastega?  no you didn't"I didn't end up mastering it because slow never landed on him, and lol if you think I'm doing that fight again just for some loving upgrade materials. I'm taking my fire/earth crystals and running, thanks Panic! at Nabisco fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Ultimates all down with CM complete. Pulled out mastery on U++ by the skin of my teeth, got just enough medals. So I guess I can put off pulling for XIII synergy for now. Hopefully I get something from a lucky draw or OSB Fest so I can skip the Lightning OSB banners as well and hold out until Fang OSB.
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I was sitting here pondering my potential Wind-element based team, and it occurred to me I have a potentially decent setup for a Holy-element team: Paladin Cecil with Paladin Force Firion with Weaponsmaster Cid Raines with Seraphic Ray Aerith with White Materia and Pulse of Life Penelo with Intercession and Mincing Minuet I've got two +Holy swords (Excalibur IV+ and Sun Blade II), Basch's +Holy shield (which I'm kinda regretting fusing up to a 6* now, but eh, life goes on), and a ton of staves and rods with +Holy for the casters. What kind of ability/RM setup should I be looking to run with these guys?
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