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Jagged Jim: Sep 26, 2013; I... I can only look though the window...

It's pretty much Red Scare Paranoia, But with Muslims instead of Communists.

-e: Content - Trump says he's 'fine' with legalization of same-sex marriage

Somehow I get the feeling that the Trump Honeymoon will be short for Freep.

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I heard this exchange on 60 Minutes, so I think this article seems accurate. I don't know if others saw this or not.

I support traditional marriage. However, maybe this is the right answer. Tell people it's settled, and if a conservative court looks at it, they do. That would be in the future and would cause a lot of argument and division in a tough time if he said he's going to overturn it. On the converse, Marco Rubio, for example, was open with the fact he wanted it overturned regardless.

Thoughts?

1 posted on 11/13/2016 6:04:39 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

It�s a state�s rights issue.

First the wall for sovereignty. Them obamacare. Then....

3 posted on 11/13/2016 6:06:57 PM PST by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: Pinkbell

The social issues have been big losers for Republicans.

SCOTUS ruled on this a year or two ago. Don�t think they�ll go back and reverse it at this point.

Rubio was just saying whatever he thought he had to say to get elected.

I disagreed with the ruling at the time it was made.

4 posted on 11/13/2016 6:07:08 PM PST by TigerClaws
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Uh...

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To: TigerClaws

I disagreed with the Dred Scott ruling at the time it was made ...

SCOTUS was wrong.

It�s OK to say it.

7 posted on 11/13/2016 6:09:01 PM PST by NorthMountain (Northmountain)
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He starts out reasonable, but...

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To: Pinkbell

My two Obama�s worth: No problem with gays getting married.

Problem with the state requiring churches to recognize those marriages.

Simple, not?

(Not, of course, to liberals, which really do not like logic.)

And note, progressives, that some Christian Churches will accept this, others will not. So, their �solution� will be to force all churches to accept it. And, being progressives, they will exempt the Muzzies. (Because the muzzles will shoot their rear end.)

13 posted on 11/13/2016 6:13:48 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Pinkbell

the left has a skewed understanding of all three branches of government. Leslie Stahl included.

14 posted on 11/13/2016 6:14:03 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Lock. Her. Up.)
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Again with the "cram it down our throat." Can't you guys find a different metaphor?

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To: Pinkbell

Gay marriage is a trap. Trump should avoid the trap. MARRIAGE is a state issue, not a federal /presidential issue. Second, you got a supreme court ruling already, so what is the question now? OR MUST YOU CRAM IT FURTHER DOWN THE PUBLIC�S COLLECTIVE THROAT???

17 posted on 11/13/2016 6:15:02 PM PST by Rapscallion (The opposite of charity is justice.)
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To: bjcoop

This issue is pretty urgent and important.

From gay marriage in 2015 it was a quick trip to gendermonium in 2016.

It looks like we will have to live with Trump's position for now. But there is no reason for conservatives to support gay marriage or to forget its importance. And Trump's nominees to the Court may end up overturning Obergefell.

19 posted on 11/13/2016 6:15:28 PM PST by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: bjcoop

This issue is pretty urgent and important.

From gay marriage in 2015 it was a quick trip to gendermonium in 2016.

It looks like we will have to live with Trump's position for now. But there is no reason for conservatives to support gay marriage or to forget its importance. And Trump's nominees to the Court may end up overturning Obergefell.

19 posted on 11/13/2016 6:15:28 PM PST by cmj328 (We live here.)
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Like I said, Freep is going to expect President Trump to start cashing in those checks that Candidate Trump has written. If he doesn't things could get ugly(er).

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To: Rapscallion

I�m taking what he is saying now with a grain of salt. There is a lot of shrewd strategy going on here, with longer goals in mind.

Once he is President, I will look at his actions. That will tell the story for me.

22 posted on 11/13/2016 6:17:00 PM PST by Right-wing Librarian (Suck it up, Buttercups!)
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To: Pinkbell

Oh man. That HAS to be overturned. No way. God will destroy this nation.

24 posted on 11/13/2016 6:17:43 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: NorthMountain

Dred Scott was a technically correct ruling based on the Constitution. That doesn�t mean it was morally correct. The �gay marriage� issue was different. It was not only a false and unconstitutional ruling, it was also morally incorrect.

25 posted on 11/13/2016 6:17:43 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: NorthMountain

If Republicans are not going to support social conservative issues, who will?

26 posted on 11/13/2016 6:18:39 PM PST by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: Pinkbell

I don�t know; I think Trump is laying some careful brick work, yet another wall. He�s clear what kind of jurists he�s going to nominate, and pretty clear that at this time he doesn�t want to touch this.

But should liberals go more insane, that will bring this topic before they court. They want to jump the wall to push the gays off with cases against bakers or churches and make the court reevaluate the decision, they won�t like the result.

Thing is, liberals are great doubling down on stupid. That such walls are built to be pushed over, that to somehow �protect� gays, it is perfectly acceptable to sacrifice them for more votes.

Only one huge problem. Donald J Trump will have no problem articulating that in a speech

30 posted on 11/13/2016 6:20:35 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Reddy

>>The US SC cannot make law. They can only interpret law.<<

That is just as theoretical as POTUS not being to legislate via XO.

It all started falling apart with the 17th Amendment. After that the USC was just a set of suggestions.

35 posted on 11/13/2016 6:24:21 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Good morning President Trump)
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To: Pinkbell

Nobody is going to be perfect, unfortunately. Trump isn't a hardcore social conservative. Reagan was a bit soft on the 2A, especially after his presidency.

Trump was correct, though, when he said it was a matter for the courts. God willing, strong social conservatives like Mike Pence and others will pull administration policy in the right direction, and men such as Ted Cruz and Mike Lee can defend marriage from their seats on the SCOTUS.

37 posted on 11/13/2016 6:25:19 PM PST by Wyrd bi� ful ar�d (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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Okay, now I'm scared.

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To: ConservativeMind

I read that with Republican control of state legislatures at the current level, the GOP only needs to take control of one more state government to have bulletproof control of the Constitutional amendment process.

39 posted on 11/13/2016 6:27:54 PM PST by Wyrd bi� ful ar�d (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: bigdaddy45

�He doesn�t really care about same sex marriage.�

quite frankly,neither to i when compared to the literal survival of our county, such as halting the colonization of the U.S. with hundreds of thousands of godless Muslim goat herders challenged by flush toilets, unlimited illegal immigration on our southern border which destroys our wage levels and job markets, the future of our Constitution and Republic hinging on the next four appointments to the Supreme Court, the salvaging of our heath care system which hinges on the repeal and replacement of obamacare, the repatriation of millions of jobs from overseas in order to give our people jobs that pay wages sufficient to buy the stuff they make, the whole issue of rule of law, and about a million other issues more important than same sex marriage.

41 posted on 11/13/2016 6:28:36 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Pinkbell

Some you of guys are not very bright. If Trump is going to put right to life jurists on the Supreme Court, you can bet these same jurists likely will overturn same sex marriage. It was not Trump who created these liberal constructs and it will take time to unwind them.

45 posted on 11/13/2016 6:32:20 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Eddie01

This should be the last MSM press availability for Trump.

This is going to be their game.....�he didn�t mean it, and we were all lied to�

Until he�s inaugurated, he should work silently with his policy teams, and tell his staff and �insiders� to STFU. The MSM has no interest on informing the public. They are only setting traps to try and weaken Trump. To them, the war is now in the 2nd stage.

47 posted on 11/13/2016 6:32:55 PM PST by juggernaut
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To: Alberta's Child

Also think gays are going to have huge legal bills from marriage.

1. Divorce. Extremely expensive. Basis for divorce is adultery. Do gays play by those rules?

2. Palimony. Gays living together for years in California. Now that�s common law marriage.

I�m not sure this is the battle to fight at this point.

49 posted on 11/13/2016 6:33:12 PM PST by TigerClaws
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Jagged Jim fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Nov 14, 2016

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# ? May 16, 2024 22:10

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

Usually Sundays are dead, but there's a bunch of stuff happening tonight so I'm back for more.

From Senator Harry Reid Backs Rep. Keith Ellison for Democratic National Committee Chair posted by freeper ColdOne

So far, he's backed by Harry Reid, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, and incoming minority leader Chuck Schumer. I'd be hesitant to trust Schumer or Reid alone or together, but I'm inclined to trust both Warren and Sanders, so maybe he'll be the right person to lead the Democrats out of the information and opinion bubble that lead to Hillary's defeat.

But freep sees one small problem with Mister Ellison.

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"Now is the time for new thinking and a fresh start at the DNC. Now is the time for Keith."

..............gee the caliphate is a fresh start? Pffft.

1 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:07:26 PM by ColdOne

Oh yeah, Keith Ellison, a black guy from Minnesota, is a Muslim. He caused a hell of a ruckus when he was sworn into Congress on a koran.

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To: ColdOne

I see these idiots want to double down on what got them defeated.

2 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:09:35 PM by Hiro Protaginast

I'm not sure that freep actually understands the thing that allowed Trump to win, do they? Only slightly more than half of all eligible voters voted this year, and actual turnout of registered voters was also pretty poo poo. Democrats were just as uninspired by Hillary as Republicans were turned off by Trump. Democrats won the popular vote. Most Republicans could probably have won easier than Trump won. It's even quite possible that Bernie could have beaten Trump if he sucked away more white people from Trump than would be encouraged to vote against him because he's a filthy socialist.

While the Clinton campaign still has their head stuck up their rear end, many in the Democratic party have already figured out that abandoning the white working class was one of the main things that went wrong this year. If Bernie and Warren think that Ellison can take these lessons and run with them, then I think he might be someone to try out and see what happens.

Oh wait, sorry, I thought this was a thread where we were discussing reality.

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To: ColdOne

I think it�s a great idea. That way the DNC is more blatantly responsible when there are muslim terrorist attacks.

3 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:10:06 PM by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)

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To: Hiro Protaginast

LOL they still don�t get it. How do these morons function in the real world? Do they have a paper script which tells them how to inhale and exhale?

9 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:12:09 PM by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))

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To: ColdOne

Go ahead...make my day, Dingy Harry.

Keith Ellison is an entitled unhinged loudmouth ready to scream �Islamophobe!� and �racist!!� at any critic. He�ll make Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz look Churchillian in comparison.

So bring it, Dems. We�ve got popcorn at the ready.

;^)

11 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:12:27 PM by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")

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To: ColdOne

My father, WWII vet, must be turning over in his grave hearing that an American senator is actively in support of having a muslim as the Democrat senate leader...totally beyond disgusting....Harry Reid is a f�n traitor!!!!!!!!

12 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:13:18 PM by Stayfree (FlushHillary.com says "NEVER HILLARY", "NEVER HILLARY", "NEVER HILLARY")

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To: angry elephant

Exactly my thoughts. The globalists are wounded and doubling down. I suppose they�re trying to mirror the �success� of London�s mayor. This could be a goldmine for Bannon/Trump.

DNC: We have a problem with white, Christian, working-class voters. So to address that, our best option is Keith Ellison.

17 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:15:06 PM by Mjreagan

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To: ColdOne

Nothing new about �Death to America� in the Democrat Party.

18 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:15:08 PM by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)

... they think they have a mandate, don't they.

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To: ColdOne

The Democrats were thoroughly rejected in the Senate, the House, Governorships, and other state and local offices.
They should reflect on what brought them down. And it�s not just bad luck. It�s refuting what they stand for and their plans for us.

20 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:16:34 PM by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016 (or as long as it takes))

UNIPARTY! UNIPARTY! UNIPARTY! Oh wait, a Muslim might lead the Democrats?

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To: ColdOne

The line of demarcation between the two parties will be made even more evident with this move. If the Democrat party didn�t hemorrhaged enough middle class blue collar voters in this election, this ought to be the coup de gras.

27 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:19:05 PM by FrdmLvr ("A is A. A thing is what it is.")

See, here's the beautiful thing about their current thinking: Trump won less of the popular vote than Romney did. Not even getting out the most outraged of the self-described deplorables was able to undo Hillary nation-wide. We can conclude that motivated deplorables make up at most a quarter of all eligible voters, and honestly it's probably less than half of that. Nobody else is going to give a poo poo about whoever leads the DNC.

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To: ColdOne

Obama is moving on so Ellison becomes the new point muslim within our government.

28 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:19:32 PM by plain talk

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To: ColdOne

Keith Ellison is a muslim, and thus does not belong in ANY responsible position in the USA!

But perhaps that is OK, since the Dim Party will go down in flames!!!!

36 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:31:29 PM by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)

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To: ColdOne

... and I, for the first time, back Harry Reid in this endeavor. Just what the Democrats need now, a �leader� who was sworn in on 1 bible and 2 korans ... believing in Sharia law. This is a wonderful choice. And the next time there is a terrorist attack? The wooden stake will be finally driven into the Democrat party�s heart. Thank you Harry.

48 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:04:26 PM by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else.)

A freeper that respects Howard Dean!?

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To: Hiro Protaginast

�I see these idiots want to double down on what got them defeated.�

Let them have this moron call the Democrat�s shots for the next couple of years. Their party leadership needs a tactician. This guy is the opposite of a tactician. He�ll make Terry McAullife look like General Patton! They need another Howard Dean right now (joke about his scream all you want ... the man was brilliant running the DNC ... Obama should worship the ground he walks on).

The 1960s all but ended last Tuesday ... the Dems will be signaling that they�re still living there if this guy runs the DNC. They�re going to try mighty hard to play the trite victim/racism cards for the next two years. I don�t think they comprehend how sick and tired people are of that frigging divisive garbage.

All Trump has to do is deliver on a few promises between now and the midterms so that his base and the �new� red states are happy. That is by no means and easy feat, but it is certainly one that is possible given the overall disdain for a lot of Obama-era big gubbamint programs that are failing (like Obamacare).

Should he deliver, Dem idiocy and massive support for President Trump will result in a filibuster-proof Senate in 2018. That�ll put an end to any new 60s liberalism for a generation or two IF AND ONLY IF Trump delivers on his promises and doesn�t make excuses. The Dems will also more than likely implode should the Republican party secure 60 senate seats.

The Democrats in their shortsightedness have set Trump�s bar so low that anytime he has a success it�ll make them look ridiculous. When he wins major political fights, the left will look beyond braindead even to their sycophants in the press.

54 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:37:06 PM by edh (I need a better tagline)

But let's end this one on an opus.

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To: ColdOne

Ellison represents a co-opting of the DNC by the USCMO via an abdication of Democrat Party leaders sponsoring him to Muslim Brotherhood organizations in the USA. Schumer, Clinton, Reid et al are abdicating the Democrat Party to the Muslim Brotherhood which also has political aims within the Republican Party also:

hxxp://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2014/05/19/genesis-of-the-us-council-of-muslim-organizations-muslim-brotherhood-political-party/

Executive leadership from some of the most prominent American Muslim organizations announced the formation of the United States Council of Muslim Organizations (USCMO) on Wednesday, 12 March 2014 at the National Press Club in Washington, DC. The eight founding Muslim organizations participating at the press conference were immediately joined by two additional U.S. Muslim organizations. Key Muslim leadership representatives spoke about the vision and mission of the USCMO and appeared in the following order:

Ousama Jammal, Secretary General USCMO and past President of The Mosque Foundation
Naeem Baig, President, Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA)
Nihad Awad, National Executive Director, Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
Mazen Mokhtar, Executive Director, Muslim American Society (MAS)
Imam W. Deen Mohammed II, President, The Mosque Cares (grandson of the NOI founder)
Khalil Meek, Executive Director, Muslim Legal Fund of America (MLFA)
Imam (Name), American Muslim Alliance (AMA)
Osama Abuirshaid, National Board Member, American Muslims for Palestine (AMP)
Imam Talib Abdur-Rashid, Deputy Emir, Muslim Alliance in North America (MANA)
Mahdabuddin Ahmad, Director of Community Affairs, Muslim Ummah of North America (MUNA)

The USCMO is described as an umbrella organization � and CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad inferred that and more, with his assertion regarding the USCMO that �This is the dream of every American Muslim, to unify the approach, agenda and vision of the Muslim community. In the past, many people have tried to unite on a limited agenda, but this is a broad agenda for the American Muslim community.� Awad stressed the need for a �platform to coordinate, to communicate, and unify the vision on critical issues both to the Muslim community and the society at large,� because he believes that �Muslim voters can be swing voters in key elections, especially 2016.� The formation of the USCMO marks the first U.S. Muslim Brotherhood political party, and indeed the first religious identity political party in the history of this country.

USCMO founding members CAIR and ICNA were previously identified as front groups for the Muslim Brotherhood during the Holy Land Foundation (HLF) trial in 2007. Sheikh Kifah Mustapha, who has worked with Ousama Jammal (current Mosque Foundation board member) at The Mosque Foundation, was listed by name as an unindicted co-conspirator in the HLF trial as a member of the Muslim Brotherhood�s Palestine Committee. According to documents entered into evidence at the HLF trial, he was a �registered agent for HLF in Illinois� who acknowledged fundraising for the HLF from the mid-1990s until 2001. Mustapha has also raised money for MAS and ICNA initiatives during their annual conferences in Chicago.

It is important to note the geo-political influence of the Muslim Brotherhood in Illinois, as this relates to the oversight of USCMO�s founding member organizations.

USCMO member organizations with headquarters in Illinois include the following:

The Mosque Foundation (7360 W. 93rd Street, Bridgeview IL 60455)
American Muslims for Palestine (10101 South Roberts Road, Palos Hills, IL 60465)
The Mosque Cares (929 West 171st Street, Hazel Crest, IL 60429)

USCMO member organizations with regional offices in Illinois include the following:

Islamic Circle of North America (6224 N. California Avenue, Chicago, IL 60659)
Council on American Islamic Relations Chicago (17 N. State Street, Suite 1500, Chicago, Illinois 60602
Muslim American Society (9210 South Oketo Avenue, Bridgeview, IL 60455)
Muslim Legal Fund of America (15255 S. 94th Ave, 5th Floor, Orland Park, IL 60462)

During the press conference, Nihad Awad indicated his organization CAIR was �proud to join this historic organization, because today is a historic one. We have been meeting for at least one and a half years.� However, the information absent from this discussion by Awad and his colleagues was that the development of the USCMO not only predates the eighteen month time frame, but finds its origins in the Chicago metropolitan area, where the Muslim Brotherhood has successfully built a strategic organizational network for almost six decades.

On 20 January 2010, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton gifted the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood a key opportunity when she signed the Exercise of Discretionary Authority under Section 212(d)(3)(B)(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. Tariq Ramadan, the grandson of Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al Banna, now could finally enter the United States for the first time since the Department of Homeland Security revoked his visa in July 2004 during the administration of President George W. Bush.

Less than four months later, on 5 May 2010, Project Mobilize (also known as Project M), which included board members with ties to multiple Muslim Brotherhood front organizations, was founded by M. Yasser Tabara in Summit, Illinois. USCMO Secretary General Ousama Jammal was a founding Board Member of Project Mobilize. M. Yasser Tabara, Project Mobilize President, was former executive director for CAIR Chicago. Project Mobilize board member Safaa Zarzour, Esq. is former Secretary General of the Islamic Society of North America. Two Project Mobilize board members, Dr. Mohammed Zaher Sahloul and Safaa Zarzour, Esq. were appointed to the American Muslim Advisory Council on 30 August 2011 by Illinois Governor Patrick Quinn.

In April 2010, Tariq Ramadan returned to the US where he was keynote speaker for both the Council on Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago (CIOGC) fundraising dinner and the 6th Annual CAIR-Chicago Banquet. In July 2010 and July 1011, Ramadan was a keynote speaker for both the 47th annual ISNA and the 48th annual ISNA conventions in Chicago. In December 2012 and December 2013, Ramadan was a keynote speaker for the 11th annual MAS-ICNA and 12th annual MAS-ICNA conventions in Chicago, where he has communicated the need for Muslim American integration and participation in the political process and society.

At the Project Mobilize website, its stated mission included the following:

To Develop the political capital existing within the Muslim American community;
To Organize the Muslim American community around issues determined relevant; and
To Advocate on behalf of the Muslim American community to elected officials and persons with political clout so that they act upon the concerns and desires of their Muslim American constituents.

In the Company Overview from their Facebook page, Project Mobilize described itself as �Based in the Chicagoland area, Project Mobilize or Project M is a non-profit political action and civic engagement organization dedicated to the education, development, and political advancement of the Muslim American community locally, statewide, and across the country.�

In April 2011, Project Mobilize successfully fielded its first candidatesfor political office: Asif Yusuf was elected as Oakbrook Village trustee; Ahmed Aduib was elected to the Bridgeview library board; Nuha Hasan was elected as a Village of Justice park district commissioner. Four years earlier in 2007, the Chicago Council on Global Affairs sponsored a study about political and civic participation, which included the Muslim American community. Project Mobilize stated that �among the top three recommendations of this diverse task force was to increase the civic participation of the Muslim American population beyond its current scope. This principle mirrors the fundamental objective of Project M and its three-pronged mission.�

In the Project Mobilize website section �Why Us? Why Now?� it is clear that Project Mobilize was the genesis for the formation of the USCMO: �There is political talent in the Muslim American community that needs only direction and resources in order to gain substantive footing.� Project Mobilize leadership intended for itself to be a catalyst for political action: �The long and extensive history of mobilization by several local Muslim-membered organizations has adequately laid the foundation for more strategic and consistent organizing efforts in the future.�

In President Barack Obama�s first term, the Muslim Brotherhood in the United States began to experience a political climate more conducive to their advancement of �Phases of the World Underground Movement Plan� in accordance with the framework articulated by influential Muslim Brotherhood theologian Sayyid Qutb in his book Milestones. Project Mobilize affirmed this reality on their website: �And finally, the political climate is ripe for an organization that will pave the way for concentrated advocacy efforts in the name of the Muslim American community.� The Project Mobilize leadership tactically positioned itself looking long term with the eventual formation of the USCMO coming to fruition in March 2014.

As the 2016 presidential election cycle heats up, the USCMO initiative to fortify Muslim citizenship rights �by conducting a census of American Muslims to create a database that will be used to enhance civic and political participation in upcoming elections,� shows all the outward signs that the Muslim Brotherhood actively is working to create the equivalent of the Republican Party�s GOP Data Center, formerly known as Voter Vault.

Also, Obama popularity with Muslims....EOM

43 posted on 11/13/2016, 4:50:54 PM by givemELL

# ? Nov 14, 2016 03:33

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

Also, tonight Trump went on 60 Minutes.

In the interview he said he's fine with gay marriage and likes the Clintons enough that he's reconsidering the whole special prosecutor thing, among other walkbacks.

Brace yourselves.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 03:34

ErIog: Jul 11, 2001

DeusExMachinima posted:

Yep, Dems basically spent 8 years doing anything but rolling back executive powers post-Bush. Now the Trumpster has those powers.

Well.. the current legal framework gives the executive tons of latitude. If congress wanted the executive to have less latitude then they could just make laws to limit it. In cases where there's an undefined implementation detail then deference is given to the executive.

This is why people in congress bitching about how ICE isn't really taking care of illegal immigrants is very silly. All they have to do is fund the organization properly instead of having it rely on immigration fees and then the executive would have far less latitude to prioritize deportations.

Also, most checks/balances at the highest level have been smoke and mirrors gentlemens' agreements for years. It's silly to think that if Obama had used fewer executive orders that Trump wouldn't take a poo poo all over all those the same way he took a poo poo on every campaign norm.

At some point he's going to cause a constitutional crisis. The system isn't really set up for people to gently caress it with hard the way Trump likes to do with all rules/regs.

ErIog fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Nov 14, 2016

# ? Nov 14, 2016 03:49

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

McGlockenshire posted:

From Insiders say Donald Trump is 'disgusted' by Chris Christie posted by freeper monkapotamus

It's an article from the New York Post, so take it with as many grains of salt as you need.

I find it odd that Trump has more ethical scruples than Chris Christie. I'm not sure if I'm prepared to believe this, and I'm not alone.

I'm not inclined to believe it either, but on the other hand Bridget Kelly is a reasonably attractive woman, and Christie is a debatably-ambulatory hefty sack full of medical waste. It's not hard to believe Trump would favor the one he could creep on over the one that he holds in contempt.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 03:53

Mustached Demon: Nov 12, 2016

McGlockenshire posted:

Also, tonight Trump went on 60 Minutes.

In the interview he said he's fine with gay marriage and likes the Clintons enough that he's reconsidering the whole special prosecutor thing, among other walkbacks.

Brace yourselves.

Maybe this Trump thing won't be so bad aft...

I'm gonna hold off judging his presidency until we're balls deep in Iran and back handing out subprime mortgages out like candy.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 04:06

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

He also doubled down on getting rid of the Electoral College despite losing the popular vote. I wouldn't really mind if Trump went back to some of the more liberal-ish views he used to hold but I'm not really holding my breath.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 04:35

Sarcastr0: May 29, 2013; WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES ?!?!?

quote:

Rapscallion (The opposite of charity is justice.)

# ? Nov 14, 2016 04:45

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

Trump is leagues above any politician in memory

From the same people that literally just said he sucked because he appointed someone they didn't like

1,456,234,890,756,000 dimensional chessmaster

# ? Nov 14, 2016 04:46

ErIog: Jul 11, 2001

Mantis42 posted:

He also doubled down on getting rid of the Electoral College despite losing the popular vote. I wouldn't really mind if Trump went back to some of the more liberal-ish views he used to hold but I'm not really holding my breath.

I think he probably does hold a lot of liberal views, but I doubt Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and Mike Pence are going to be very eager to accomplish any of the things he holds liberal views on.

Also, as an outsider, Trump has no idea how any of this poo poo works. So he has no way to hold anybody in his administration accountable. It's going to be 4 years of incredible graft and internal politics. A presidency isn't like a building. You can't walk through it and say, "yo, the paint over here looks like poo poo, do it again." His staff will quietly undermine all the left-leaning stuff he says he wants to do while supporting all the right wing stuff.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 04:47

Shugojin: Sep 6, 2007; THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...

McGlockenshire posted:

Also, tonight Trump went on 60 Minutes.

In the interview he said he's fine with gay marriage and likes the Clintons enough that he's reconsidering the whole special prosecutor thing, among other walkbacks.

Brace yourselves.

It's like the universe is actively scorning the notion of making sense

this is the payback for verifying the Higgs boson, isn't it

# ? Nov 14, 2016 04:47

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

We didn�t act
like this crew of DEPLORABLES when mulatto Obama wsa
elected (he�s NOT black; maybe half)

No, but you sure the gently caress did and then some when Obama care was announced and when you guys were starting that teat party bullshit.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 04:49

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

From Trump says he's 'fine' with legalization of same-sex marriage posted by freeper Pinkbell

the excerpt posted:

Donald Trump said he is �fine with� same-sex marriage but offered few specifics about his plans for the first 100 days of his administration during his first television interview since becoming the president-elect.

In an extensive interview with CBS�s Leslie Stahl broadcast Sunday night on "60 Minutes," Trump sought to ease the anxieties of LGBTQ Americans that a new conservative Supreme Court majority might overturn last year�s decision legalizing same-sex marriage.

Ducking a question about his personal view on the issue, which he dismissed as �irrelevant,� Trump asserted, bluntly, �it�s done.�

�These cases have gone to the Supreme Court. They�ve been settled. And I�m�I�m fine with that,� he said.

(Snip)

He acknowledged the possible reality of appointing a pro-life Supreme Court majority that could overturn Roe v. Wade. When pressed by Stahl, he agreed that some women will �perhaps have to go�they�ll have to go to another state.�

�And that�s okay?� Stahl responded.

�Well, we�ll see what happens,� Trump said. �It�s got a long way to go, just so you understand. That has a long, long way to go.�

quote:

I heard this exchange on 60 Minutes, so I think this article seems accurate. I don't know if others saw this or not.

I support traditional marriage. However, maybe this is the right answer. Tell people it's settled, and if a conservative court looks at it, they do. That would be in the future and would cause a lot of argument and division in a tough time if he said he's going to overturn it. On the converse, Marco Rubio, for example, was open with the fact he wanted it overturned regardless.

Thoughts?

1 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:04:39 PM by Pinkbell

quote:

To: Pinkbell

total lie by politico. I just finished watching 60 minutes and trump simply said the issue haf already been adjudicated.

2 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:06:02 PM by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)

EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW, BITCHES

quote:

To: Pinkbell

It�s a state�s rights issue.

First the wall for sovereignty. Them obamacare. Then....

3 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:06:57 PM by Reddy (B.O. stinks)

quote:

To: Pinkbell

The social issues have been big losers for Republicans.

SCOTUS ruled on this a year or two ago. Don�t think they�ll go back and reverse it at this point.

Rubio was just saying whatever he thought he had to say to get elected.

I disagreed with the ruling at the time it was made.

4 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:07:08 PM by TigerClaws

quote:

To: Pinkbell

Politico is twisting it. Basically what he is saying is that it�s up to the courts, not to him.

He will, hopefully, appoint some more constitutional-minded conservative judges, certainly better than those Democrat appointments. So, the courts will probably ease up, if not actually reverse the earlier decision.

Don�t believe anything that Politico headlines.

8 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:11:17 PM by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)

He loving said it. Literal words out of his mouth. You loving dumbasses.

quote:

To: Pinkbell

I saw the interview. I believe the direct quotes in the politico article are accurate.

9 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:12:30 PM by be-baw (still seeking)

Actual literal quotes, guys.

quote:

To: catnipman

�total lie by politico. I just finished watching 60 minutes and trump simply said the issue has already been adjudicated.�

Politico just lied as to what Trump actually said. Fathom that.

11 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:13:19 PM by Parley Baer

quote:

To: Pinkbell

Politico uses America as its toilet.

12 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:13:35 PM by Eddie01 (Democrats are the Liquidate America Party)

quote:

To: Pinkbell

Gay marriage is a trap. Trump should avoid the trap. MARRIAGE is a state issue, not a federal /presidential issue. Second, you got a supreme court ruling already, so what is the question now? OR MUST YOU CRAM IT FURTHER DOWN THE PUBLIC�S COLLECTIVE THROAT???

17 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:15:02 PM by Rapscallion (The opposite of charity is justice.)

quote:

To: bjcoop

This issue is pretty urgent and important.

From gay marriage in 2015 it was a quick trip to gendermonium in 2016.

It looks like we will have to live with Trump's position for now. But there is no reason for conservatives to support gay marriage or to forget its importance. And Trump's nominees to the Court may end up overturning Obergefell.

19 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:15:28 PM by cmj328 (We live here.)

The only reasons trans issues even came up was that the religious right decided to try using it as a wedge issue and the left decided that was a great idea. NC might have gone red in the presidential election this year, but (pending a recount), they've narrowly ejected their Republican governor that pushed HB2. Most people aren't bigots, and freep fails to remember this.

Protip, freep: you could already do this with people of the opposite gender, you dipshits. It was already happening before, it'll continue happening now.

quote:

To: TigerClaws

"Gay marriage" will come to an end from a legal standpoint once we make an effort to take advantage of it to our benefit.

For example ...

Suppose you have a good medical insurance plan at work, and you also have a close friend of the same gender (or either gender, for that matter) who is uninsured. There's nothing that prevents the two of you from "getting married" just for the sake of getting him insured through your employer's group plan.

There are probably dozens of similar situations where there are legal and financial advantages to being "married" to someone even if you have no romantic interest in him.

If the Federal government wants to turn the institution of marriage into a farce, I can play that game too.

20 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:16:13 PM by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")

Hahahaha, freep thinks Trump has a strategy

quote:

To: Rapscallion

I�m taking what he is saying now with a grain of salt. There is a lot of shrewd strategy going on here, with longer goals in mind.

Once he is President, I will look at his actions. That will tell the story for me.

22 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:17:00 PM by Right-wing Librarian (Suck it up, Buttercups!)

Ah yes, there it is

quote:

To: Pinkbell

Oh man. That HAS to be overturned. No way. God will destroy this nation.

24 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:17:43 PM by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)

quote:

To: NorthMountain

If Republicans are not going to support social conservative issues, who will?

26 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:18:39 PM by Mr. N. Wolfe

quote:

To: Pinkbell

I don�t know; I think Trump is laying some careful brick work, yet another wall. He�s clear what kind of jurists he�s going to nominate, and pretty clear that at this time he doesn�t want to touch this.

But should liberals go more insane, that will bring this topic before they court. They want to jump the wall to push the gays off with cases against bakers or churches and make the court reevaluate the decision, they won�t like the result.

Thing is, liberals are great doubling down on stupid. That such walls are built to be pushed over, that to somehow �protect� gays, it is perfectly acceptable to sacrifice them for more votes.

Only one huge problem. Donald J Trump will have no problem articulating that in a speech

30 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:20:35 PM by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)

quote:

To: Pinkbell

Sodomite �marriage� must not stand. This is an abomination.

Justice will not denied. The sodomites will push this to the point where heteros will have no choice but to shut them down. Freedom cannot co-exist with sexual deviancy. One must prevail. Both cannot.

40 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:28:10 PM by nonsporting

quote:

To: bigdaddy45

�He doesn�t really care about same sex marriage.�

quite frankly,neither to i when compared to the literal survival of our county, such as halting the colonization of the U.S. with hundreds of thousands of godless Muslim goat herders challenged by flush toilets, unlimited illegal immigration on our southern border which destroys our wage levels and job markets, the future of our Constitution and Republic hinging on the next four appointments to the Supreme Court, the salvaging of our heath care system which hinges on the repeal and replacement of obamacare, the repatriation of millions of jobs from overseas in order to give our people jobs that pay wages sufficient to buy the stuff they make, the whole issue of rule of law, and about a million other issues more important than same sex marriage.

41 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:28:36 PM by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)

Never expected to see this point on freep, that's for sure.

quote:

To: nonsporting

It�s going to be tough for a guy who�s been married 3 times to argue that Gay marriage will destroy the sanctity of marriage.

43 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:30:09 PM by bigdaddy45

quote:

To: Eddie01

This should be the last MSM press availability for Trump.

This is going to be their game.....�he didn�t mean it, and we were all lied to�

Until he�s inaugurated, he should work silently with his policy teams, and tell his staff and �insiders� to STFU. The MSM has no interest on informing the public. They are only setting traps to try and weaken Trump. To them, the war is now in the 2nd stage.

47 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:32:55 PM by juggernaut

lol, k

quote:

To: catnipman

bingo...you could tell Trump is against same sex marriage but did not want to step on the hornets nest and did the diplomatic thing...

48 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:32:59 PM by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)

quote:

To: SoFloFreeper

I hope his DOJ goes after any state entity that violated the Civil Rights of any bakers, florists, etc.

Make them pay those peoples fines back X 100

50 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:34:01 PM by digger48

I think the thing I didn't end up bolding is the only surprise about this post.

quote:

To: Pinkbell

There can be a conservative solution to this:
* homosexuals can get married 2 people only like heterosexuals
BUT
* you don�t get preference in adoptions
* the state doesn�t have to pay for you to use in vitro fertilization or any other tech to make a baby
* no polygamy regardless of genders involved
* no transgenders in the military, no homosexuals in straight units
* no transgenders getting rights over normal people
* counseling for gender dysphoria gets legalized again for all levels
* counseling for a child with same sex attraction but doesn�t want to, whether due to molestation or religious reasons, is made legal again in states where it isn�t right now
* counselors who don�t want to counsel same sex relationships can refuse such
* medical professionals lose the gag order where someone saying they are the opposite gender can only be referred for hormones and surgery
* the government changes its contract preferences to stop using the Out and Equal Index and similar far left metrics as a measure of �LBGT diversity�, so that companies no longer socially engineer the workforce to get preference for contracts - and this is something Trump can do via Executive Order just as it was put in place by Obama

57 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:47:34 PM by tbw2

quote:

To: usafa92

Lord help me for having to say this, I don�t care about two men getting married - I care about keeping the mentally ill biologically intact men out of the girls� locker room, women�s changing room, women�s dorm and shelters.
Let them get married as a two-some and leave me alone.
It is saying I have to celebrate your blasphemy or endorse someone else�s delusion that is the bigger problem.

58 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:49:56 PM by tbw2

At least one of them gets it. You guys could have just campaigned to eliminate marriage as a thing at the government level and just replace them all with civil unions and let the word "marriage" refer to what happens in a church, but noooooo, you had to be idiots about all of it and this is what you got.

quote:

To: Pinkbell

This is an issue used to intentionally cause conflict. It is a trap door issue that people on the right too easily fall into.

Marriage of a man to a women is the only union recognized by God. After the civil war marriage licenses were required to ensure racial purity. The state enforced the requirement and collected a tax. This action, in effect, gave man, not God, the legal and moral authority to define marriage. Since man defined marriage man can change the definition. We did this to ourselves.

62 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:58:31 PM by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)

quote:

To: Pinkbell; catnipman

Thoughts?

You didn't seriously think we were going to turn on Donald Trump because you posted a Politico article, did you ? The MSM reporters have totally discredited themselves, and besides
we are not tired of winning yet. We'll let you know when.

66 posted on 11/13/2016, 7:18:19 PM by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)

# ? Nov 14, 2016 04:53

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

likes the Clintons enough that he's reconsidering the whole special prosecutor thing

That's called bullshitting and covering your rear end because you know that the issue was impossible in the first place. It's gonna be the same with the wall. He's gonna find out it is literally impossible to do, so he'll just walk it back by saying Mexico hasn't sent the check yet

# ? Nov 14, 2016 04:54

ErIog: Jul 11, 2001

SocketWrench posted:

That's called bullshitting and covering your rear end because you know that the issue was impossible in the first place. It's gonna be the same with the wall. He's gonna find out it is literally impossible to do, so he'll just walk it back by saying Mexico hasn't sent the check yet

No, he's going to take whatever funding was already approved and throw it behind a symbolic extension of the existing border fence infrastructure. He's then going to hang a Mission Accomplished banner on it and continue attempting to secure budget to deport people.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:00

McGlockenshire: Dec 16, 2005; GOLLOCKS!

From 60 Minutes Interview with Donald Trump (vanity) posted by freeper God luvs America

the OP posted:

Could not find a thread on the topic. Watched this show for the first time in 20 year. Watched it with my wife and daughter. So proud!!! So so proud!!! The family was asked at the end if they thought the Trump brand name was hurt through the election. The answer? "Who cares. This is much more important. America is more important than hotel room vacancies." Our president-elect also said he would forgo the presidential salary.

quote:

To: God luvs America

Worst. Interview. Ever.

Stahl was grossly unprofessional. I don�t recall her asking those same questions of Obama.

And I don�t even think she said Thank You to end the interview.

2 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:19:25 PM by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)

quote:

To: Red in Blue PA

stahl was a pig...could care less about her; the president elect, his wife and family were spectacular...

4 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:20:18 PM by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA THEY'RE GOING TO JUSTIFY EVERY. SINGLE. WALKBACK.

quote:

To: God luvs America

She claimed Trump was backtracking on his promises. He is not. He always said certain parts of the topography along the border did not require a wall.

6 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:21:26 PM by odawg

quote:

To: God luvs America

Lesley Stahl is a good representative of the dinosaur media that is fading fast.

The looks on the faces of the Trump family, at Lesley Stahl, revealed much to me about the willful ignorance of the corrupt media.

First time in more than 20 years, and also the last time I�ll be watching 60 Minutes by choice. Goodbye CBS News.

8 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:23:14 PM by Resettozero

quote:

To: God luvs America

Stahl was an idiot. Apparently blacks are scared because they think they have targets on their backs. Really? When did Trump ever bash blacks?

She just ran down her list of pet liberal ideas.

The country voted against her liberal beliefs. The whole media is just in shock that they were all in and couldn�t drag Hillary across the finish line.

9 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:23:54 PM by No Socialist

quote:

To: Red in Blue PA

Agree totally. Leslie Stahl is as bad as they come. �Your supporters are harassing gays, Latinos bla bla bla. �. I hope President Trump understands they will NEVER be on his side! Don�t even give them the privelege of an interview !! They don�t deserve it!

10 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:23:55 PM by Runner4life

quote:

To: Runner4life

leslie is a dried-up wretch. She should be arrested for her malignant misuse of the First Amendment. What a has-been loser. I laugh at her idiocy, her bias and her unprofessionalism. I think it is funny that she is old. You know what that means...

16 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:26:00 PM by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?.)

quote:

To: God luvs America

I just want to add that he is the President-Elect. If he wants to twitter, he can drat well twitter. He does NOT need Leslie Stahl�s permission. Her lack of professionalism should get her fired. No more CBS for me.

19 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:27:55 PM by LouisianaJoanof Arc

quote:

To: God luvs America

Leslel Stahl was awful. Both she and Andrea Mitchell need to be forcibly retired.

That said, I�ve heard Donald likes to interview with these left wing hacks because it�s more challenging. He did a good job. Family was fine and Melania was fantastic, despite Lesley Stahl condescending to her. Excuse me Lesley, but just because she�s an immigrant doesn�t mean she�s a stupid child!

Also, what was with Stahl�s comments about Trump supporters attacking muslims and latinos? Really? I hadn�t heard that. Is it true? Is there any evidence of that? Trump should have called her on it, but I assume he didn�t want to fall into a trap in case there really was some random example of it. Since she did not present any evidence, then I think it�s safe to assume she is lying and it never happened!

So... the media lies will continue. And yet they are desperate to keep the Trump �controversy� ratings going and so they are doing whatever they can to try and bait him. Good for him he did not take the bait this time.

And I hope the �next time he talks to 60 Minutes� he will be announcing criminal charges against Hillary Clinton from the special prosecutor he promised us!

20 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:28:09 PM by AC86UT89

Oh give me a loving break.

quote:

To: God luvs America

Has anyone noticed how the MSM keeps cutting Melania out of the screen shots? They must be intimated by her grace and beauty.

28 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:33:29 PM by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)

quote:

To: silverleaf

I would have loved it if after her first gotcha question at Trump, he would have said politely, �I thought that CBS didn�t engage in smear type interviews� and tell her the interview is over and to leave Trump Towers and have her escorted out by security. I know that wouldn�t play well and would cause Soros� funder riot squad to become more emboldened, so just as Trump was saying in the beginning of the interview, this was Trump retraining from doing what he wanted to do, which would have been to tell off this miserable harpy.

34 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:37:49 PM by Blue Highway

loving WENDLE.

quote:

To: God luvs America

I watched and she was insignificant. What emerged was the Greatest American and his Family. Trump was breath taking . If you can get this on you tube or CBS� Do NOT miss this interview. We have the greatest AMERICAN since George Washington!!!! God BLESSED AMERICA!!

36 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:39:00 PM by WENDLE

Ahahahaha KNOCKOUT GAME ahahahahahah

quote:

To: No Socialist

Stahl was an idiot. Apparently blacks are scared because they think they have targets on their backs. Really? When did Trump ever bash blacks?

I wonder if she ever covered the 'knockout game', and the white people who were afraid? President Obama never addressed that, and no one asked him.

What about the Tea Party people who had the full force of government agencies (IRS, OSHA, ATF, etc)come down on them, did she ask Obama about them being afraid?

What about the property rights people - did she ever talk about their fear of losing their land, and ask Obama about it?

Sheesh! Typical NY liberal...

45 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:46:35 PM by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)

quote:

To: AC86UT89

After this garbage, I agree he should ignore the press and resort to twitter.

49 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:53:31 PM by AndyJackson

quote:

To: TTFlyer; Nita Nupress

You would think that after all these decades of experience she would be a better interview. The penultimate time I watched her was 15 years ago. This is the ultimate time.

These cryto-fascist propogandists are unbearable. The are certainly incorrigible, the NY Times publisher notwithstanding. If the alpha-bet media wants to survive they need to hold a mass firing.

Nita, your day has arrived!

51 posted on 11/13/2016, 5:58:23 PM by AndyJackson

quote:

To: God luvs America

I thought Trump did reasonably well. He shouldn�t have let Stahl get away with cutting him off, though, when he mentioned Wikileaks in connection with protests. He was about to mention evidence that the Democrats sponsored disruptions, but she quickly jumped in. All he had to do was wait twenty seconds to handle her interruption, and then go right back to it.

Also he should have been ready for the charge that Trump supporters are attacking minorities, and mentioned the attacks that are going the other way. Actually it�s the Trump supporters who are at greater risk of violence. Is she looking sad and asking Democrats about that?

62 posted on 11/13/2016, 6:25:45 PM by GJones2 (Trump CBS 60 Minutes interview)

# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:11

Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

ErIog posted:

I think he probably does hold a lot of liberal views, but I doubt Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, and Mike Pence are going to be very eager to accomplish any of the things he holds liberal views on.

Also, as an outsider, Trump has no idea how any of this poo poo works. So he has no way to hold anybody in his administration accountable. It's going to be 4 years of incredible graft and internal politics. A presidency isn't like a building. You can't walk through it and say, "yo, the paint over here looks like poo poo, do it again." His staff will quietly undermine all the left-leaning stuff he says he wants to do while supporting all the right wing stuff.

Yeah, while it'd be nice if Trump made an active effort to get rid of the electoral college, after this election with Hillary winning the popular vote, the GOP knows that it would make winning the presidency next to impossible for them. I mean, even with as bad a campaign as Hillary ran, even with all the screwups the Dems had, the voter suppression, the huge loss of Dem voters, without the EC she still would have won, and the GOP is smart enough to know it's the only hope they have of winning the presidency.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:27

DeusExMachinima: Sep 2, 2012; This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!

Put this loser on ignore immediately!

quote:

To: TigerClaws

I disagreed with the Dred Scott ruling at the time it was made ...

SCOTUS was wrong.

It�s OK to say it.

7 posted on 11/13/2016 6:09:01 PM PST by NorthMountain (Northmountain)
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I've joked that they remember everything back to the Civil War but Illuminati confirmed. :mason:

# ? Nov 14, 2016 05:50

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

McGlockenshire posted:

The answer? "Who cares. This is much more important. America is more important than hotel room vacancies." Our president-elect also said he would forgo the presidential salary.

Yeah, because he can just file bankruptcy again.

And yeah right, just like he was gonna fund his campaign all on his own. God you guys just blindly eat this poo poo up

# ? Nov 14, 2016 06:18

Jurgan: May 8, 2007; Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

DeusExMachinima posted:

I've joked that they remember everything back to the Civil War but Illuminati confirmed.

I think "Dred Scott" is code for "Roe v. Wade."

# ? Nov 14, 2016 07:06

Mantis42: Jul 26, 2010

I thought it was a code for Obergefell, since as we know giving gay people the right to marry is giving them special privileges, thus "separate but equal".

# ? Nov 14, 2016 07:07

Jurgan: May 8, 2007; Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Mantis42 posted:

I thought it was a code for Obergefell, since as we know giving gay people the right to marry is giving them special privileges, thus "separate but equal".

"Separate but equal" is Plessy v. Ferguson. "Dred Scott" declared a whole class of people to be non-citizens with no rights. If you believe an embryo is a person, then you can see parallels to Roe v. Wade.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 07:54

Tias: May 25, 2008; Pictured: the patron saint of internet political arguments (probably)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

quote:

There can be a conservative solution to this:
* homosexuals can get married 2 people only like heterosexuals
BUT
* you don�t get preference in adoptions
* the state doesn�t have to pay for you to use in vitro fertilization or any other tech to make a baby
* no polygamy regardless of genders involved
* no transgenders in the military, no homosexuals in straight units
* no transgenders getting rights over normal people
* counseling for gender dysphoria gets legalized again for all levels
* counseling for a child with same sex attraction but doesn�t want to, whether due to molestation or religious reasons, is made legal again in states where it isn�t right now
* counselors who don�t want to counsel same sex relationships can refuse such
* medical professionals lose the gag order where someone saying they are the opposite gender can only be referred for hormones and surgery
* the government changes its contract preferences to stop using the Out and Equal Index and similar far left metrics as a measure of �LBGT diversity�, so that companies no longer socially engineer the workforce to get preference for contracts - and this is something Trump can do via Executive Order just as it was put in place by Obama

I for one await the supremacy of the neo-spartan gay legions!

# ? Nov 14, 2016 10:44

MeLKoR: Dec 23, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

Tias posted:

I for one await the supremacy of the neo-spartan gay legions!

Theban

# ? Nov 14, 2016 11:39

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Jurgan posted:

"Separate but equal" is Plessy v. Ferguson. "Dred Scott" declared a whole class of people to be non-citizens with no rights. If you believe an embryo is a person, then you can see parallels to Roe v. Wade.

I think he just got his pro life mixed up with his racism during his brain's feeble attempt at being outraged

Tias posted:

I for one await the supremacy of the neo-spartan gay legions!

I love how like half of those just scary things that either don't exist, no one wants, or don't work the way they think they do.

They should be allowed to adopt, after all, these fucks want abortions banned, and since none of them want to adopt the orphanages/foster homes would overflow

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Nov 14, 2016

# ? Nov 14, 2016 12:09

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black lives matter until you're born :eng99:

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:19

Captain_Maclaine: Sep 30, 2001; Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

MeLKoR posted:

Theban

Both, though the Thebans were explicit about it whereas with Sparta it just sorta happened organically and to a lesser extent.

Really obscure comedy option: That puts the one final push Epaminondas called out for at Leuctra into a whole new context! :pervert:

# ? Nov 14, 2016 14:26

Smeep: Jan 20, 2004

quote:

Gwen Ifil was a nasty piece of work with a deceptively pleasant, reasonable and non threatening public face

Van Jones modeled his public persona after Gwen.

Both were hard core Marxist Revolutionaries who eschewed violent revolutionary means and methods to achieve revolutionary goals by destroying the system from within

I'll pray for her soul, but if I'm in the neighborhood I'll go out of my way to piss on her grave

21 posted on 11/14/2016, 1:02:25 PM by rdcbn ("There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alt)

to be fair, most of the thread wasn't awful

# ? Nov 14, 2016 22:14

Duke Igthorn: Oct 11, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

quote:

Christie is a fool with poor judgment. He is like the monkey that climbed too far up the pole and has no real cover. He tried to double down on his troubles and run for President.

...Isn't that...just like a monkey...?

# ? Nov 14, 2016 22:24

Georgia Peach: Jan 7, 2005; SECESSION IS FUTILE

Smeep posted:

to be fair, most of the thread wasn't awful

That's because they pulled at least two of them that were absolutely awful.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 22:36

Smeep: Jan 20, 2004

Georgia Peach posted:

That's because they pulled at least two of them that were absolutely awful.

Yeah, evidently. And this one's turning into a poo poo show, too.

# ? Nov 14, 2016 23:14

Smeep: Jan 20, 2004

Cannot wait for the threads justifying/rationalizing Trump's kids wanting top secret clearance while also running Trump, Inc.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 04:28

Mr.Unique-Name: Jul 5, 2002

quote:

There can be a conservative solution to this:
* homosexuals can get married 2 people only like heterosexuals
BUT
* you don�t get preference in adoptions
* the state doesn�t have to pay for you to use in vitro fertilization or any other tech to make a baby
* no polygamy regardless of genders involved
* no transgenders in the military, no homosexuals in straight units
* no transgenders getting rights over normal people
* counseling for gender dysphoria gets legalized again for all levels
* counseling for a child with same sex attraction but doesn�t want to, whether due to molestation or religious reasons, is made legal again in states where it isn�t right now
* counselors who don�t want to counsel same sex relationships can refuse such
* medical professionals lose the gag order where someone saying they are the opposite gender can only be referred for hormones and surgery
* the government changes its contract preferences to stop using the Out and Equal Index and similar far left metrics as a measure of �LBGT diversity�, so that companies no longer socially engineer the workforce to get preference for contracts - and this is something Trump can do via Executive Order just as it was put in place by Obama

Is this not the case currently?

Forcing a counselor or therapist to take on a case of a type that is outside their focus, or that they aren't experienced or comfortable with, seems like an absolutely terrible idea that will end horribly for all parties involved.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 05:08

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Depends on which state, as far as I know. some states passed special clauses that allow people to refuse working with gays and the like

# ? Nov 15, 2016 06:03

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

Mr.Unique-Name posted:

Is this not the case currently?

Forcing a counselor or therapist to take on a case of a type that is outside their focus, or that they aren't experienced or comfortable with, seems like an absolutely terrible idea that will end horribly for all parties involved.

Yea that guy's entire post is a case study in the results of the conservative media bubble. Dude wants what we actually have now, but some dude who loves Ted Cruz told him that gay people can force any counseling service on the street to counsel them and their 5 husbands.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 15:01

Big Hubris: Mar 8, 2011

Neo_Crimson posted:

I think you guys are underestimating how deep Freep has fallen into the Trump cult of personality.

Trump is the strongman they've always wanted.

# ? Nov 15, 2016 22:30

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

fishmech posted:

Yea that guy's entire post is a case study in the results of the conservative media bubble. Dude wants what we actually have now, but some dude who loves Ted Cruz told him that gay people can force any counseling service on the street to counsel them and their 5 husbands.

You guys have "no homosexuals in straight units"? Still?

# ? Nov 15, 2016 23:54

SocketWrench: Jul 8, 2012; by Fritz the Horse

Subjunctive posted:

You guys have "no homosexuals in straight units"? Still?

We have homosexuals in all types of units. But freep think is that having them in there makes all the straight guys a bunch of limp wristed faggots too because gay is a virus that can be spread or some poo poo. So when you see them in action and poo poo you don't see a difference between straights and gays, but freep thinks you can because the gays will be fabulous in their tight bicycle shorts and matching scarf tied around their necks while dicking anyone that happens to wander past and prancing around like little schoolgirls while issuing orders/calling in poo poo on the radio with the gayest lisp you can imagine

# ? Nov 16, 2016 00:18

Twelve by Pies: May 4, 2012; Again a very likpatous story

Freep is scared gay soldiers will look at straight soldiers and fantasize about them and view them as nothing more than sex objects. This will make the straight soldiers uncomfortable and nervous and thus reduce their fighting efficiency because another man might be masturbating to them, oh no! And you never know if one of those gay guys will suddenly grab your butt or rub against you when you're trying to do your job!

As has been said before, Freep is worried that gay men will treat straight men like how straight men treat women.

# ? Nov 16, 2016 01:12

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# ? May 16, 2024 22:10

Cleretic: Feb 3, 2010; Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Freep and others like them seem worried about groups that aren't them for that same reason in general. You see it when they talk about whites becoming a minority population, and even in their reactions to people who disagree with them about the election.

They're not scared of what those groups actually do. They're scared that people will treat them like they treat others. They really can't imagine people would act differently to them, and they're bullies. It's simultaneously sad and kind of scary.

# ? Nov 16, 2016 02:52

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