|
   One of our subs is driven off.  B-17's continue to do their work.   I start this battle up again.   So apparently my pilots need to learn how to fly a night. Or their ignoring my orders.  A destroyer kill is confirmed.
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2016 18:05
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 20, 2024 23:52 |
|
|
  Just before I start to run this turn, I spot this.  I immediately send out the carriers. This may be a false spot, but I can't risk it.  This could be the start of a good day.  The detection of an enemy convoy at Guadalcanal makes me think this may be the start of an enemy offensive.  Not that I plan on leaving much left of it.  Rabaul houses my largest concentration of bombers, and an air HQ. We rain death on them.  A troop ship takes our second torpedo of the day.  Our first night raid is successful on the packed runway.  Oh boy, this could get interesting.  Seven kills is a good day.
|
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2016 18:08
|
|
|
As long as it's not the Enterprise I hope you actually found a carrier  Man, I really like the idea of this game, I may have to start a serious runthrough one of these days because I do enjoy the planning and logistics leading to nice payoffs.
|
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2016 18:17
|
|
|
The Luckenbach line has suffered this war. I'm sure that's at least the fifth of their big cargo ships we've seen go down.
|
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2016 18:20
|
|
|
goatface posted:The Luckenbach line has suffered this war. I'm sure that's at least the fifth of their big cargo ships we've seen go down. We've seen around 11 of them, with only 3-4 damaged or sunk.
|
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2016 18:57
|
|
|
"The Gulfcoast is underwater": A statement equally at home in 1942 and 2042. 13 November 1942 The Naval Battle of Guadalcanal, a series of confused night actions in The Slot, claims a number of ships: US cruiser Atlanta, wrecked by 14" gunfire of Japanese battleship Hiei and torpedoed by Japanese destroyer Akatsuki. US cruiser Juneau, damaged by Japanese gunfire and later torpedoed by Japanese submarine I-26. The tragedy of the Sullivan brothers. US destroyers Barton, Cushing, Laffey, and Monssen, sunk by Japanese gunfire and/or torpedoes. Japanese destroyers Akatsuki and Yudachi, sunk by gunfire of US cruisers and destroyers. Japanese battleship Hiei, sunk by air attack while withdrawing from the battle. Dutch destroyer Isaac Sweers, torpedoed by U-431 northwest of Algiers.
|
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2016 21:46
|
|
|
OpenlyEvilJello posted:"The Gulfcoast is underwater": A statement equally at home in 1942 and 2042. Anyone who is interested in this and the other crazy Naval battles in the Guadalcanal campaign should read Neptune's Inferno.
|
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2016 23:11
|
|
|
pthighs posted:Anyone who is interested in this and the other crazy Naval battles in the Guadalcanal campaign should read Neptune's Inferno. Neptune's Inferno, Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors, and Shattered Sword are all highly recommended for anyone interested in the Pacific war in general. Also the new The Fleet at Flood Tide by the author of the former two books.
|
|
#
?
Nov 13, 2016 23:17
|
|
|
Cythereal posted:Neptune's Inferno, Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors, and Shattered Sword are all highly recommended for anyone interested in the Pacific war in general. Also the new The Fleet at Flood Tide by the author of the former two books. Yes, I just finished Fleet at Flood Tide and it's like a Neptune's Inferno level telling of the Marianas campaign, plus a quick covering of the strategic bombing campaign and the two nukes. I really liked it. Shattered Sword is still the single best Pacific War book I think, but all four are top notch, with Rising Sun: Decline and Fall of the Japanese Empire by John Toland being #5 on the list to round out the war with an understanding of Japanese politics, strategies, and characters before and during the war.
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2016 01:08
|
|
|
Nice, good luck with the convoy mauling - and are the carriers ready for the offensive and fully refitted/rearmed or you just sending out a squadron that's fully setup or mostly capable or the full strength? Regardless, nice set of kills and good luck brutalizing the Allies!
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2016 05:49
|
|
|
Speaking of books I really enjoyed Ian Toll's Pacific Cruicble and The Conquering Tide. Scope is the entire Pacific Theater so it's not as indepth as say Shattered Sword, but it was still very good.
Dreamsicle fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Nov 14, 2016 |
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2016 19:08
|
|
|
Dreamsicle posted:Speaking of books I really enjoyed Ian Toll's Pacific Cruicble and The Conquering Tide. Scope is the entire Pacific Theater so it's not as indepth as say Shattered Seord, but it was still very good. I was just going to mention pacific crucible, I also enjoyed it. Even learned a thing or two. It gives a real sense of the chaos in the first 6 months after Pearl Harbor and how being the US was in doctrine and experience
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2016 22:01
|
|
|
I'm really hoping that Grey doesn't catch the carriers he's spotted and it turns out the exciting thing he's referred to is that he's finally managed to down a B-17.
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2016 23:09
|
|
|
Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:I'm really hoping that Grey doesn't catch the carriers he's spotted and it turns out the exciting thing he's referred to is that he's finally managed to down a B-17. His stealth invasion of Anchorage is going according to plan.
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2016 23:41
|
|
|
vyelkin posted:His stealth invasion of Anchorage is going according to plan. The Home Islands will be awash in crab legs for New Year's.
|
|
#
?
Nov 14, 2016 23:47
|
|
|
Please be bombing vancoucer
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 00:27
|
|
|
bunnyofdoom posted:Please be bombing vancoucer Are you mad? Think of the effect on the PROPERTY VALUES!
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 01:52
|
|
|
CannonFodder posted:The Home Islands will be awash in crab legs for New Year's. You know, the more I learn about the Japanese leadership during the war the more I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they invaded the Aleutians solely for the crab. Admirals gotta eat!
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 05:20
|
|
|
Deep Dish Fuckfest posted:Are you mad? Think of the effect on the PROPERTY VALUES! It would lower it enough that my brother and his fiancée could afford housing?
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 05:55
|
|
|
  We have them.  A hit!  My god, its their entire carrier fleet! The Saratoga reports fuel/ammunition explosions.  We loose a lot of planes, but hit three of their carriers. Now to survive the revenge hit – their planes would have already been in the air at this short range....  This is going to be bloody, I can feel it already.  Three carriers and two light carriers are hit, the difference in flack may be telling here.  Some late Avengers get butchered. There are no strikes in the afternoon.  Their bombers continue their work.  A brutal day of combat, both sides took damage, but its now down to the damage control teams to help their ships survive. Welp. Luckily, we were in range of the Munda airfield, so a lot of our planes were able to re-base there, so no-one was lost at sea. With 98 operational losses, the Americans were not so lucky.  We lose a light cruiser to two oilers, but I will be surprised if the Saratoga makes it home.  We're going to lose two ships ourselves.  But I still have many ships still in action, and only one enemy ship will be able to put planes into the air, so I reform the two Butais into one task force, and go for a second day of battle!
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 06:43
|
|
|
oh god Big E  edit: Somewhere, Brooklyn Bruiser is sharpening a shiv. Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Nov 15, 2016 |
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 06:46
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 06:48
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 06:48
|
|
|
Ahaha holy poo poo. Saratoga is a goner, Yorktown probably too. Enterprise might get out of it, and Lexington is unscathed. Assuming there's no attacks again tomorrow, and assuming we get all three of those carriers, that should set the Allies back by quite a bit. Though the first Essex-class CV's should already be slipping out of dry dock soon, right?
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 06:49
|
|
|
Lmao my Lucky ship's first appearance and it gets owned.
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 06:51
|
|
|
Welp. This has what we were waiting for
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 06:53
|
|
|
Oh man you guys are on top of each other and they have (wounded) battleships and cruisers and poo poo. That sure would make me sweat. Sure did gently caress those fleet oilers up though. Maybe they will be out of fuel after that. e: I didn't see that you have a few BBs screening as well so not so bad I guess. GOOD TIMES ON METH fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Nov 15, 2016 |
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 06:54
|
|
|
But swapping a lot of carrier losses is to the Allies' advantage, right? Though I don't know if the AI can take advantage of that.
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 06:54
|
|
|
Grey Hunter posted:
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 06:57
|
|
|
OH poo poo IT'S HAPPENING
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 07:03
|
|
|
Generation Internet posted:Alright, I'm gonna go ahead, be that guy, and claim the USS Enterprise (CV-6) because holy poo poo, why would you not. Galaga Galaxian posted:Because by claiming it you've sealed Its dooooooom. One torpedo hit is maybe survivable, but there's going to be a round two
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 07:03
|
|
|
I'm pretty sure these are spiced up reports and ultimately nothing is true at all. We'll probably never hear from Akagi and Shokaku again whereas there are suddenly new enemy carriers around, the Yorkcity, the Enterprize, the Rightington and the Sacratoga. "Yeah, we totally destroyed them like, all their like carriers are gone and stuff and ships were sinking with explosions left and right. What a sight man! No losses on our side - maybe a little bit of strafing but no bombs, no. We can do this all day long!!!!!!" 
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 07:03
|
|
|
Welp. Carrier battle at short range.
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 07:05
|
|
|
That was excellent, can't wait for tomorrow! Edit: How do Shokaku and Zuikaku take 1 and 2 bombs and hardly any damage? Impressive damage control. gohuskies fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Nov 15, 2016 |
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 07:11
|
|
|
Ha ha ha oh God, the whole war we've been waiting for a carrier battle and the first one happens literally within spitting range  Send in the battleships
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 07:12
|
|
|
Awww yisssss  Let's hope the weather doesn't affect tomorrow's strike, I want big E down!
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 07:26
|
|
|
 98 losses!!
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 07:32
|
|
|
Mikl posted:Ha ha ha oh God, the whole war we've been waiting for a carrier battle and the first one happens literally within spitting range Forget Tone Scout 4, entire shelves of books will be written how the gently caress the two largest carrier forces in the world failed to find each other until some sharp eyed lookout went 'say, is that smoke on the horizon over there ?'.
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 07:35
|
|
|
Shoho and Mikazuki are definitely going down, Kasumi could go either way and while it doesn't look like Akagi is going to sink, she's almost certainly hulked. Shokaku and Zuikaku are still relatively fine, but are they still capable of combat operations? I'm guessing they can given Grey's remarks, unless he's just conducting the second strike with the lighter CVs/CVLs/CVEs, but I am curious how the game determines whether a carrier can conduct flight operations or not. For the US, even aside from the CVs almost everything in that fleet is probably in trouble. Two fleet oilers going down could completely gently caress over the smaller ships even if they don't take any hits if there's not a port or another oiler reasonably nearby. I also have no clue why a bloody 21kt battleship like the New Mexico is even in a carrier battlegroup. On the trade, losing one relatively bad CV (Kaga and Akagi were not good CVs for a number of reasons) and a CVL in exchange for possibly 3 or 4 US fleet carriers would be a great exchange, even accounting for the stream of Essexes about to start coming. Being lucky enough to have land bases in range to accept aircraft that lost their carrier is simply a great bonus. edit: Actually, what damage did Jintsu take? Jintsu didn't appear on one of the damage reports at the end, but the combat report had her taking a bomb hit. Curious since someone did select her as her ship. Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Nov 15, 2016 |
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 07:35
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 20, 2024 23:52 |
|
|
Where's the 14th?
|
|
#
?
Nov 15, 2016 07:35
|
|
